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04 Nov 2017, 8:29 am

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I don’t know, but you can tell when you’re smarter or stupider than someone you meet and talk to based on the conversation.

I’m an extremely deep thinker and that doesn’t go down well with most people.

I just expect an equal intelligence wise. If I cannot find one who wants me, I’m happy to go without.


What about you makes you such a deep thinker?


Eating lot of ice cream, I guess



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04 Nov 2017, 8:30 am

Sabreclaw wrote:
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I don’t know, but you can tell when you’re smarter or stupider than someone you meet and talk to based on the conversation.

I’m an extremely deep thinker and that doesn’t go down well with most people.

I just expect an equal intelligence wise. If I cannot find one who wants me, I’m happy to go without.


What about you makes you such a deep thinker?


I don’t know. My chubby thighs?



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04 Nov 2017, 9:22 am

hale_bopp wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
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I don’t know, but you can tell when you’re smarter or stupider than someone you meet and talk to based on the conversation.

I’m an extremely deep thinker and that doesn’t go down well with most people.

I just expect an equal intelligence wise. If I cannot find one who wants me, I’m happy to go without.


What about you makes you such a deep thinker?


I don’t know. My chubby thighs?


Somehow I don't think there's much much relation there.

You'll pardon the skepticism, but there's an awful lot of people out there who love to brag about how intelligent they are when really they're just average. The internet is full of geniuses, it seems.



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04 Nov 2017, 9:23 am

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Looking for a top shelf boyfriend


Hi there, thanks for reading first off.
I'm looking for a boyfriend who has it going on. I'm surrounded by men who won't work regular jobs and who do not drive. It's kinda frustrating. I like the guys they are nice people but i just don't understand them.
I'm looking for a man to date, one who has a regular job. I don't care how much money you make just that you go to work most days and participate. Also that he will have a drivers license, even better his own car.
If he had drive and ambition to do better I would really like and respect that.
I do like my friends who won't work or drive but i can't see myself wanting to be in a relationship with someone like this.
I'm looking for a guy who trys hard and has it going on. A guy I can depend on if I get a flat tire, stuff like that. A guy who can take me to dinner no big deal. I'm looking for more I guess. Nothing to lose by asking. Thanks.


She like their personality but can’t see dating them since they losers in. Her and societies eyes, she wants someone who’s ambitious, working a regular job and has a car, so they can tske places and out to eat :roll:

Not a bit about what personality she likes just about what the guy should have.



I don't think she knows what she wants so much as what she doesn't want, someone who lacks drive. I think she's being honest, if men with less ambition don't attract her then she would make him and herself unhappy dating someone like that.

Personally a driven person trying to push me into getting more done would :evil: not work. I do things in my own time (or not at all) and hate being nagged.

It's important to know what sort of person would be the best fit for you.



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04 Nov 2017, 9:35 am

Sabreclaw wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
I don’t know, but you can tell when you’re smarter or stupider than someone you meet and talk to based on the conversation.

I’m an extremely deep thinker and that doesn’t go down well with most people.

I just expect an equal intelligence wise. If I cannot find one who wants me, I’m happy to go without.


What about you makes you such a deep thinker?


I don’t know. My chubby thighs?


Somehow I don't think there's much much relation there.

You'll pardon the skepticism, but there's an awful lot of people out there who love to brag about how intelligent they are when really they're just average. The internet is full of geniuses, it seems.


You can assume I’m stupid if you like, it’s fine. The internet isn’t the best medium to get to know someone.



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04 Nov 2017, 10:46 am

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Also when I said talking to them, I don’t mean just a 2 minute conversation. Over time it gets more evident, for example you could easily group kids in your class.


Oh okay so you really did mean that after all. This I can understand.



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04 Nov 2017, 11:21 am

hale_bopp wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
I don’t know, but you can tell when you’re smarter or stupider than someone you meet and talk to based on the conversation.

I’m an extremely deep thinker and that doesn’t go down well with most people.

I just expect an equal intelligence wise. If I cannot find one who wants me, I’m happy to go without.


What about you makes you such a deep thinker?


I don’t know. My chubby thighs?


Somehow I don't think there's much much relation there.

You'll pardon the skepticism, but there's an awful lot of people out there who love to brag about how intelligent they are when really they're just average. The internet is full of geniuses, it seems.


You can assume I’m stupid if you like, it’s fine. The internet isn’t the best medium to get to know someone.


Hale_Bopp - You are not wrong in your thinking. I have a similar concept that I do.

If you are meeting people face to face in a social situation, the level of the conversation can give clues to at what intelligence level the others have at that point in time in that particular subject matter. I have experienced this many times at a local pub that I occasionally frequent. I go there to eat (they have a good french dip) and to work on my quantum physics research in a quite area of the building. Minding my own business, I still get people wanting to converse with me about things, like what am I working so intently on. I do not seek them out, they come to me. Most give up the ghost when I try to tell them the answer. They are generally only interested in sports/drinking/sex topics, things that disinterest me. I am not making that up, they start trying to twist the conversation that way. They will eventually move on and soon find another target to converse with. Only a few will sit down and actually listen to me explain what I am after in pondering the universe. A few were fascinated with what I was doing and they now seek me when they have a science question that they have been pondering over. That is a true litmus test to see the scientific intelligence of the general public in my local area. They may be intelligent in different areas, but I prefer to work in this one and converse with others accordingly.



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04 Nov 2017, 11:33 am

An intelligent person may have the ability to riff on what the other person has said. Not just a canned monologue, but something that works with what has previously been said by the other person. Less accurate but still used are vocabulary and speed. There is also timing. A good back and forth with no awkward pauses is also an indication of intelligence.
The Aspie memory trick impresses just about everyone. If you remember what people have said about themselves previously that goes over really, really well.



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04 Nov 2017, 11:37 am

^ Ironically, I'd probably be considered unintelligent by most Aspies here if they met me in person.

In casual setting, I prefer casual conversation, and I don't rank people's intelligence solely by what they're interested in. Most folks are more complex than that.

I'm just very laid-back. I can get along with a wide range of individuals.


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04 Nov 2017, 11:40 am

QuantumChemist wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
I don’t know, but you can tell when you’re smarter or stupider than someone you meet and talk to based on the conversation.

I’m an extremely deep thinker and that doesn’t go down well with most people.

I just expect an equal intelligence wise. If I cannot find one who wants me, I’m happy to go without.


What about you makes you such a deep thinker?


I don’t know. My chubby thighs?


Somehow I don't think there's much much relation there.

You'll pardon the skepticism, but there's an awful lot of people out there who love to brag about how intelligent they are when really they're just average. The internet is full of geniuses, it seems.


You can assume I’m stupid if you like, it’s fine. The internet isn’t the best medium to get to know someone.


Hale_Bopp - You are not wrong in your thinking. I have a similar concept that I do.

If you are meeting people face to face in a social situation, the level of the conversation can give clues to at what intelligence level the others have at that point in time in that particular subject matter. I have experienced this many times at a local pub that I occasionally frequent. I go there to eat (they have a good french dip) and to work on my quantum physics research in a quite area of the building. Minding my own business, I still get people wanting to converse with me about things, like what am I working so intently on. I do not seek them out, they come to me. Most give up the ghost when I try to tell them the answer. They are generally only interested in sports/drinking/sex topics, things that disinterest me. I am not making that up, they start trying to twist the conversation that way. They will eventually move on and soon find another target to converse with. Only a few will sit down and actually listen to me explain what I am after in pondering the universe. A few were fascinated with what I was doing and they now seek me when they have a science question that they have been pondering over. That is a true litmus test to see the scientific intelligence of the general public in my local area. They may be intelligent in different areas, but I prefer to work in this one and converse with others accordingly.


One doesn't have to be interested in science to be intelligent. It's very possible for a high IQ person to be intersted in art, philosophy or any other subject instead.

I agree with the premise here though. I can easily tell the difference between say a 100 IQ person, and a 130 IQ person. 99% of the time I will get along better with the 130 IQ person, even if we have completely different interests.



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04 Nov 2017, 11:43 am

BTDT wrote:
An intelligent person may have the ability to riff on what the other person has said. Not just a canned monologue, but something that works with what has previously been said by the other person. Less accurate but still used are vocabulary and speed. There is also timing. A good back and forth with no awkward pauses is also an indication of intelligence.
The Aspie memory trick impresses just about everyone. If you remember what people have said about themselves previously that goes over really, really well.


The back and forth thing maybe.

But the riffing I absolutely disagree with. By that logic most/all aspies are not intelligent, because we lack social intuition.



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04 Nov 2017, 11:50 am

Closet Genious wrote:
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An intelligent person may have the ability to riff

But the riffing I absolutely disagree with. By that logic most/all aspies are not intelligent, because we lack social intuition.


Which is why is used the word "may"

But I think it is a big factor when NTs decide on whether there is "chemistry"

Does it really matter whether you are intelligent or not if your prospective partner decides you aren't?



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04 Nov 2017, 12:51 pm

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Liking someone ambitious isn’t so they “get taken out places to eat”, seems kind of misogynistic. It’s normal to like people who want to make something of themselves. I wouldn’t date someone who isn’t driven to succeed, because I am. I would get bored.

Women lean towards good interaction with people and a drive to succeed.

If some guy who doesn’t meet the above but somehow has a lot of money, women would still get bored. I would take a poor ambitious guy any day over a wealthy no hoper. I don’t think I’m in the minority of women, with the exception of any gold diggers.

She literally says so they can take out places to eat. Did you read it?


People with ambition can’t be poor. Ambition in today’s term is climbing the career ladder to higher paying jobs. How is a unemployed person ambitious?



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04 Nov 2017, 1:08 pm

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Looking for a top shelf boyfriend


Hi there, thanks for reading first off.
I'm looking for a boyfriend who has it going on. I'm surrounded by men who won't work regular jobs and who do not drive. It's kinda frustrating. I like the guys they are nice people but i just don't understand them.
I'm looking for a man to date, one who has a regular job. I don't care how much money you make just that you go to work most days and participate. Also that he will have a drivers license, even better his own car.
If he had drive and ambition to do better I would really like and respect that.
I do like my friends who won't work or drive but i can't see myself wanting to be in a relationship with someone like this.
I'm looking for a guy who trys hard and has it going on. A guy I can depend on if I get a flat tire, stuff like that. A guy who can take me to dinner no big deal. I'm looking for more I guess. Nothing to lose by asking. Thanks.


She like their personality but can’t see dating them since they losers in. Her and societies eyes, she wants someone who’s ambitious, working a regular job and has a car, so they can tske places and out to eat :roll:

Not a bit about what personality she likes just about what the guy should have.


'Trys hard [sic]' is part of a personality, but anyway.
You find this woman's attitude unattractive; why is she relevant, therefore?
Should you not just skip her as you would any other person on a dating site who turned you off for whatever reason?

You're not ugly btw, Sly, unrelated to this but I saw your picture and your face is fine.


Because these two examples are like most ads and profiles here. Most single women here are this way. So I either pursue them or give up and be depressed till I kill myself.
Since my mind doesn’t give up I keep going and trying. I posted cause I’m always told women. Only care about men’s personality but this lady flat out says she loves her male friends personality but their lack of jobs is why she won’t date them, so if they got a job tomorrow then suddenly be dateable in her eyes. Again she’s far from the only woman with that mindset sadly. I don’t have career ambitions anymore, years of failing out a stop to that. See if I skipped all such women I’d skip all women in my area. Anyways I just read the add and the way she says personality basically doesn’t mean s**t to her u less they are ambitious and have a job made me want to post it. I didn’t message her, like many women she doesn’t want anyone not meeting they to message her.
I kinda liked the second ones ad til the second half, can’t message her either :cry:
She might liked my personality I’m silly playful, loyal to a fault, romantic, I enjoy helping others,. Is that not personality?
Some people told me continuing in ahopelsss life against all odds is ambition i dont know about that.
I am ambitious to get a good shave everyday. To do the best at work I can to help every customer, to make their visit great. I was able to give great deals to a guy on scopes yesterday he was super grateful and thanked me a lot. Made me feel good although part of me still wonders why he would thank me.

I’ve seen my pictures I’m ugly, border on hideous. I see other men all day. Based on that I’m way below average and these guys aren’t supermodel or actor looks.
Would you date me though? Doubt it. I think your just saying I’m not ugly to be nice. I’m aware people do this. I was explained I need to for nieces cousins and such.



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04 Nov 2017, 1:18 pm

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I don’t see why you care about people who don’t like you. If you would be happy for a girl to date you based on what you had instead of who you are, then I genuinely feel sorry for you.

I don’t think most women are like that, though. Gold diggers are a small % of women.

They like the sort of person who ends up getting a decent job and a car, a go getter who wants to do something with his life and has a drive to be independent. It’s not the same as gold digging, where they only date a person for material possessions.

If you just got a car and a house and didn’t change your attitude, you’d probably attract gold diggers and the relationship wouldn’t last anyway.


It’s the reality of the world. Most people would rather not work and be valued for their personality and enjoy their hobbies all day, but reality is society won’t pay for people to do that, you work or you die. Similarly most women value men on what they have, so you either date them or be alone forever. In their own way they love their men, and I think a lot of them would truely love them and stick with them if they lost their job. Few want though.mmy sisters friend kicked her husband out and is taking their 3 kids.

See I never said gold digger,gold digger is attractive women who date super rich guys so they get a free ride. These most these women work. Maybe the unemployed ones wanting to be house wife’s could be gold diggers. I dont know , but the min wage working woman wanting w middle class guy doubt it. She’s just superficial. And being superficial doesn’t make them gold diggers. If she quit her job and demanded to freeload then I guess maybe she’d be one. I just think they need s reality check. They victims of societies agenda to sell sell sell. They don’t need a middle class guy and middle class women don’t either. They don’t need 2 cars, a big house filled with expensive electronics, they don’t need trips to France,Japan, they don’t need to eat out at expensive restaurant every day. Most people 40 years ago didn’t have any of that stuff and lived happy lives. That stuff was for the upper middle class and rich elites. Us money has be continually devalued, a dollar today is worth less. People make less then our grandparents did. But expect to enjoy activists the elite do.

What’s wrong with a modest home, eating in, then once a month eating out, romantic trips to the mountains to camp, or to th coast . Having just one car, one tv , etc.



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04 Nov 2017, 1:32 pm

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I'll take that as a "yes".

You have already argued in this thread that women care far more about an ambitious man who has dreams and desires he works toward more than materialistic items or the success in itself.

Now it seems you're.moving the goalposts.

A car is a materialistic item.

Will a man with a high paying job who works hard, saves up and buys a car be more desirable than a man with a low paying job who works even harder, saves even better but can't afford the car anyway still?

Why/why not.


They seem about the same attractiveness. I don’t like splurging money on stupid things or extravagance, so the guy who doesn’t save much money seems like not much of a match. I do however respect the ladder he climbed to get where he is.

I would wonder why someone is satisfied with a low paying job, as I wouldn’t be. Whenever I worked low paying jobs my spare time was devoted to making extra income. There’s nothing wrong with wanting to work a low paying job, I just don’t understand it.

I will always take my hat off to a hard worker, in any industry.

To answer your question, no. That’s me though. I can’t speak for other people.


Cause some people care more about helping others and satisfaction then climbing Corp ladders and making tons of money.
It’s the whole specialist vs family medicine.. both are doctors but specialists get pay a boat load more money. People become family doctors to help others not make lots of money. Mind you they still make good money but not as much as a specialist.
Specialist probably say the same thing , how can they be happy making so little money.

I wanted to join the military, hardly a income field, I wanted to serve my nation. I wanted to be a policeman, again not a big income field, so I could help protect people.
I enjoy retail cause I get to help people everyday. I get to make someone’s day great on weekly basis. That’s worth more then money to me.