Why don't women ask out men?

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27 Dec 2018, 3:49 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

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Frankly, Lapine is more logical than 90% of frequent members on women’s boards.

Except Chronos, Amity, hurtloam and very few others.

My feelings are hurt! :cry:

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Sorry, you’re not one of those few others. :mrgreen:

But I do try mostly! I have a difficult time accepting generalizations. You know: women always.... men always.... all women, all men. Actually generalizations really tick me off.

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27 Dec 2018, 3:51 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

Frankly, Lapine is more logical than 90% of frequent members on women’s boards.

Except Chronos, Amity, hurtloam and very few others.

I appreciate that. I haven't been well lately and ive been struggling to put things into words.

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27 Dec 2018, 3:58 pm

AnneOleson wrote:

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

AnneOleson wrote:

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

Frankly, Lapine is more logical than 90% of frequent members on women’s boards.

Except Chronos, Amity, hurtloam and very few others.

My feelings are hurt! :cry:

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Sorry, you’re not one of those few others. :mrgreen:

But I do try mostly! I have a difficult time accepting generalizations. You know: women always.... men always.... all women, all men. Actually generalizations really tick me off.

You were there, but you‘ve lost 100 points in Kitty’s thread! :chin:

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27 Dec 2018, 4:29 pm

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Unfortunately, much of June Nicole Lapine's content consists of tired talking points and strawmen. For example, Lapine argues that feminism is unnecessary because women have the legal rights of men (and because Lapine hasn't personally felt oppressed). She portrays feminists as whiny SJWs competing to be the most oppressed. She further describes feminism as existing only to solve First World problems, and suggests that feminists uncritically accept all abuse and rape accusations. Lapine also believes that, because the commonly-cited "average wage gap" figure doesn't account for confounding factors, the gender wage gap itself does not exist. In short: if you've listened to any other anti-feminist, you've already listened to Lapine's arguments.

Lapine has downplayed the negative consequences of his presidency and has defended some of his controversial behaviour and policies. Lapine's video, "faux hate crimes", is a reading of several obviously fake hate crimes allegedly committed by Trump supporters after his election. Although Lapine cautions that "I'm not a psycho who enjoys hate crimes", the implication is that "the sudden increase of hate crimes " is not real. She repeated this on Twitter.

June Nicole Lapine is just another outspoken anti-feminist and anti-liberal woman with a YouTube channel, and a willfully ignorant attitude regarding social and political issues. She simply knows how to attract a crowd and pander to her fans.

No thank you.

Though I agree with Lapine on some things, she doesn't seem particularly bright or well-researched to me. Not the exemplary political commentator in my opinion. Her schtick seems to be "Hey guys, I'm a woman against feminism!", and all she seems to do is bring up talking points that dozens of other people have already covered better. She certainly seems like more of a panderer than a genuine political activist/figure.

She’s a youtuber, not a candidate for the senate elections.

My point being that there are better, more insightful and more engaging political commentators who tout similar opinions. June seems more like an entertainer than a credible political commentator.

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27 Dec 2018, 9:38 pm

I’d rather have those further removed from politics giving ideas than those who make it a business.

But then again, a lot of these youtubers make it their jobs to do so anyway, and Shoe definitely is not one of the more serious ones. Nothing wrong with being entertaining, but with her and many others, they’re pretty transparent about their motives. Stopped watching at some point when I realized her boyfriend was pretty insufferable and incredibly cucked. For those that are supposed to be “skeptics”, it would seem whenever drama comes up, she still likes to play victim and he still likes to white knight.

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28 Dec 2018, 4:11 am

Actually, women do ask men out.

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28 Dec 2018, 4:37 am

well I have tried... a few guys on dating sites I ended up after some conversation seeing if the wanted to meet up, but some of them did not seem interested after I started talking about meeting in person. Then the boyfriend I have now, I guess he more asked me out and I agreed to it....but yeah a few guys I was willing to meet didn't end up actually wanting to. Like IDK why you're on a dating site if you then don't follow up with a girl who wants to meet you....but whatever I still found a boyfriend after years on the dating site so things worked out in the end as far as that goes.

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28 Dec 2018, 4:52 am

A very hot model-looking waitress once asked me out late at night......

...she was like "Sir, you need to leave, we're closing".

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28 Dec 2018, 11:24 am

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Anxiety may be the answer. They like the idea of meeting new women, but when it comes to the crunch it's too much. They don't know what to do next.

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30 Dec 2018, 1:41 am

it is without a doubt the main thing, or probably the only thing, I've always hated about being born male, that guys, men, have to make the first move, approach women first or ask them out first, be the initiator, I've always had strong resentment towards it. I get the feeling this norm will continue to fall on mens shoulders until if the human race ever becomes extinct.

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30 Dec 2018, 3:34 am

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I resent that it's weird if I do the asking because I'm female. I'd have a much better time with this dating malarkey if I was a man.

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30 Dec 2018, 4:51 am

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I resent that it's weird if I do the asking because I'm female. I'd have a much better time with this dating malarkey if I was a man.

ya but I bet you are like almost all women, in which you feel it's the mans job to open his mouth in front of you first, ask you out first, etc.

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30 Dec 2018, 11:55 am

WantToHaveALife wrote:

hurtloam wrote:

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I resent that it's weird if I do the asking because I'm female. I'd have a much better time with this dating malarkey if I was a man.

ya but I bet you are like almost all women, in which you feel it's the mans job to open his mouth in front of you first, ask you out first, etc.

That is not only a sexist claim, but a sweeping generalization, as well.

You do not know all women, so your claim is also invalid.

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30 Dec 2018, 12:13 pm

In my case, I'm old-fashioned and wouldn't feel comfortable asking a man out -- for whatever reason -- but that's just my choice. The other reason is that every man I'm interested in is married or in a relationship, or even gay. I know that's a cliché but it's true for me. I know very few eligible straight guys.

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30 Dec 2018, 1:22 pm

Fnord wrote:

WantToHaveALife wrote:

hurtloam wrote:

WantToHaveALife wrote:

I resent that it's weird if I do the asking because I'm female. I'd have a much better time with this dating malarkey if I was a man.

ya but I bet you are like almost all women, in which you feel it's the mans job to open his mouth in front of you first, ask you out first, etc.

That is not only a sexist claim, but a sweeping generalization, as well.

You do not know all women, so your claim is also invalid.

To be fair I do think the majority of women expect the man to do the asking.

And I do too. Because it's the social norm.

I find I can ask guys out, but it's taken as more of a friends thing. I find it hard to make it clear I'm asking you on a date are you interested in me like that? Without seeming pushy.

It tends to be if I have to ask, he wasn't interested. It makes me feel like I shouldn't be asking. I feel like I'm not supposed to.

But I envy a man. He can ask and get rejected, but he still did the strong manly thing. I just feel pushy.

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30 Dec 2018, 1:27 pm

Women can ask men out - but only on the 29th of February.

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