Was in a club tonight
quite an extreme wrote:
breaks0 wrote:
I mean this kind of twisted, almost academic approach you take to testing them reflects in my view accurately on the stereotypical ASD man as some sort of emotionless robot.
There we are. You are just trolling here. Sorry but you have not even a clue how special people with Asperger's are. Without us you would still jump from tree to tree hunting for fruits like the rest of the apes.
breaks0 wrote:
And that you find testing them to be some sort of intellectually interedting "game" like chess or wtf ever. That's both quite f****d up and guaranteed never to get you very far in the dating or hookup games.
I'm not made for 'hookup games'. Asperger's makes me unable to sense the feelings of women outside of their eyes. It wasn't ever my choice to be that way. I can't relate towards any kind of emotional calculating behaviour and have totally to struggle with it. For this I'm interested to know what's up with it. May be you can explain what's wrong with finding out instead of being judging because of this. Btw. I don't see anything bad that I did and even the girls in the club got the fun of it.
Most people on this site have Asperger’s, including breaks0 I believe, and don’t engage in behavior like this.
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quite an extreme wrote:
breaks0 wrote:
I mean this kind of twisted, almost academic approach you take to testing them reflects in my view accurately on the stereotypical ASD man as some sort of emotionless robot.
There we are. You are just trolling here. Sorry but you have not even a clue how special people with Asperger's are. Without us you would still jump from tree to tree hunting for fruits like the rest of the apes.
breaks0 wrote:
And that you find testing them to be some sort of intellectually interedting "game" like chess or wtf ever. That's both quite f****d up and guaranteed never to get you very far in the dating or hookup games.
I'm not made for 'hookup games'. Asperger's makes me unable to sense the feelings of women outside of their eyes. It wasn't ever my choice to be that way. I can't relate towards any kind of emotional calculating behaviour and have totally to struggle with it. For this I'm interested to know what's up with it. May be you can explain what's wrong with finding out instead of being judging because of this. Btw. I don't see anything bad that I did and even the girls in the club got the fun of it.
I can tell you how I see this argument as a neutral observer who doesn't have Aspergers.
Objectively it seems as though you were preying on those girl's weaknesses and performing a trick that zoologists do to study chimps and other primates.
It was not in my view a horrendous thing to do but seems to come from you feeling superior or at least trying to lllustrate their lack of ethics and integrity and make fun of them ( they do sound kind of dumb).
It could be that you were all drunk anyway and nobody gave a damn. I am sure it was not your intention to hurt anyone's feelings.
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Teach51 wrote:
quite an extreme wrote:
breaks0 wrote:
I mean this kind of twisted, almost academic approach you take to testing them reflects in my view accurately on the stereotypical ASD man as some sort of emotionless robot.
There we are. You are just trolling here. Sorry but you have not even a clue how special people with Asperger's are. Without us you would still jump from tree to tree hunting for fruits like the rest of the apes.
breaks0 wrote:
And that you find testing them to be some sort of intellectually interedting "game" like chess or wtf ever. That's both quite f****d up and guaranteed never to get you very far in the dating or hookup games.
I'm not made for 'hookup games'. Asperger's makes me unable to sense the feelings of women outside of their eyes. It wasn't ever my choice to be that way. I can't relate towards any kind of emotional calculating behaviour and have totally to struggle with it. For this I'm interested to know what's up with it. May be you can explain what's wrong with finding out instead of being judging because of this. Btw. I don't see anything bad that I did and even the girls in the club got the fun of it.
I can tell you how I see this argument as a neutral observer who doesn't have Aspergers.
Objectively it seems as though you were preying on those girl's weaknesses and performing a trick that zoologists do to study chimps and other primates.
It was not in my view a horrendous thing to do but seems to come from you feeling superior or at least trying to lllustrate their lack of ethics and integrity and make fun of them ( they do sound kind of dumb).
It could be that you were all drunk anyway and nobody gave a damn. I am sure it was not your intention to hurt anyone's feelings.
I think the takeaway is that: if you want a real relationship with someone, don’t go about it in this way.
Women are people, too, with thoughts and feelings. We aren’t instinct-driven but have brains and thought processes of our own.
One sleazy example at a bar is not going to reflect the majority of our sex, and it certainly didn’t lead to any relationship.
Twilightprincess wrote:
Most people on this site have Asperger’s, including breaks0 I believe
She hasn't an Asperger's syndrome. I guess she is just a troll.
Teach51 wrote:
I am sure it was not your intention to hurt anyone's feelings.
No and it didn't. Hey they got money for nothing.
Twilightprincess wrote:
I think the takeaway is that: if you want a real relationship with someone, don’t go about it in this way.
Women need to look in my eyes to crush on me. For this the barmaids crush more often at me then the rest of the girls in the club.
Twilightprincess wrote:
Women are people, too, with thoughts and feelings. We aren’t instinct-driven but have brains and thought processes of our own.
Sure but I just don't get how NT women are towards men and how they think about guys. They are together with a guy and flirting with him and quite often dishonest about this until their bones. For instance their are on a hand of a guy but while passing me do they rub demonstratively their tits on me. Why? Do they really think that I want to be the next one who will be treated this way?
But not all women are the same way of course. This reminds me to a strange situation. Once I saw a guy dancing as wild in a totally strange way for impressing a cute girl. He wasn't realizing that she was all the time looking totally in love to him but he didn't even care because he didn't turn around and didn't looked at her. The girl looked to me totally helpless and was realizing that I was aware of the strange situation and laughing. I went to him and told him just to look at her then.
And than there was a cute but tall girl who told me that she was still looking for a boy friend who is taller than her. She was a beauty but about 1,85 m and taller then me. But I was on the second dancefloor before where some really tall guys were headbanging to hardrock and from time to time pushing each other around for becomming the one in the middle. (I tried this game too realizing that I'm much more massive then the most other guys especially of my size. ) I took her to thoose guys and sayd friendly "Look around! There are lots of big guys. Just pick one!" Her eyes went bright and she sayd full of joy "I want this one!" and showed at the tallest of all who was about 2,10 m. I had looked in his eyes before and he seemed to be OK to me so I sayd to her "OK!". She went to him and hugged him and layed her head on his chest. He looked surprised and was totally unsure about her. After a while she stepped back 2 meters and looked unsure and asking at him.
While doing so a quite big dirty grinning turk and his small nasty friend stepped in front of her. She didnt like the turk and looked unsure but the tall guy still had not decided about his feelings to her and still looked unsure. What an idiot! But it was a room were big guys were pushing each other around and if I take a girl like her to such a place then she is under my protection until she leaves. Wasn't the turk just on the dancefloor where the people were pushing each other around? So I hit the turk a bit with my shoulder that he went straight to the ground and took his sh***y friend with him in a quite unhappy way.
Both got it and disappeared quite fast for not making me even more angry. I moved to the side watching the situation. The girl went to the tall guy and then they were just standing side by side and - nothing happened . After 7 seconds I didn't want to watch this any longer and wanted her to get another guy but a woman who watched this held me back and sayd "Wait please!". So I stopped and right! After 5 additional seconds suddenly both turned to each other totally synchronously. Dont know how they did this. Then both seemed in love and left. I have never seen anything like that before or after.
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quite an extreme wrote:
breaks0 wrote:
I mean this kind of twisted, almost academic approach you take to testing them reflects in my view accurately on the stereotypical ASD man as some sort of emotionless robot.
There we are. You are just trolling here. Sorry but you have not even a clue how special people with Asperger's are. Without us you would still jump from tree to tree hunting for fruits like the rest of the apes.
breaks0 wrote:
And that you find testing them to be some sort of intellectually interedting "game" like chess or wtf ever. That's both quite f****d up and guaranteed never to get you very far in the dating or hookup games.
I'm not made for 'hookup games'. Asperger's makes me unable to sense the feelings of women outside of their eyes. It wasn't ever my choice to be that way. I can't relate towards any kind of emotional calculating behaviour and have totally to struggle with it. For this I'm interested to know what's up with it. May be you can explain what's wrong with finding out instead of being judging because of this. Btw. I don't see anything bad that I did and even the girls in the club got the fun of it.
Your neurological condition Extreme is the same as mine. I'm not TROLLING you. I'm pointing out your clear as glass misogyny and pathetic attempts at eliciting pity from others on behalf of your own lame expressions of self-pity. The very fact you're frankly so thick-headed as not to "get it" even when it's pointed out to you what you're doing wrong (both "tactically" and ethically from a feminist pov) by a fellow aspie of your own gender and the fact that I haven't either had any romantic of sexual contact w/a woman in 20 years aside from 1 1 night hookup w/a friend from out of town 5 years ago. All of that shows your real problem is looking at women as lab rats children or primates to be experimented on. Those are all YOUR words not mine. A MAN doesn't look at women that way. Ever. And we don't play child's games w/them ever unless they wanna play Candyland or wtf ever. You appear to be disiniterested in learning. So be it. Be an emotionless robot and good luck w/the dating or hookup games bro. I'm sure mobs of women will be banging down your door trying to get w/you. Not!
breaks0 wrote:
I haven't either had any romantic of sexual contact w/a woman in 20 years aside from 1 1 night hookup w/a friend from out of town 5 years ago.
Are women into feminists as much? Sounds like you are the most loved guy on earth because of it.
Btw. I wanted to know how much girls care about the guys who are approaching them. I noticed that often the girlfriends care the approaching guys more then the girls themself.
Once a girl pulled her girlfriend who started to dance with me away from me but started to dance with me immediately herself afterwards. As soon as the first one realized what her friend did she got quite angry on her friend and didn't show any constraint towards me afterwards. Was a funny night.
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quite an extreme wrote:
breaks0 wrote:
I haven't either had any romantic of sexual contact w/a woman in 20 years aside from 1 1 night hookup w/a friend from out of town 5 years ago.
Are women into feminists as much? Sounds like you are the most loved guy on earth because of it.
Btw. I wanted to know how much girls care about the guys who are approaching them. I noticed that often the girlfriends care the approaching guys more then the girls themself.
Once a girl pulled her girlfriend who started to dance with me away from me but started to dance with me immediately herself afterwards. Once the first one realized what her friend did she got quite angry on her friend and didn't show any constraint towards me afterwards. Was a funny night.
Most women do appreciate it when a man is respectful and treats them like human beings instead of subhumans to be studied for one’s own personal amusement.
Why are you so interested in club behavior? The way people behave in clubs under the influence of alcohol says nothing about how they behave in real life.
Further, women are individuals. You can’t use one or two examples to generalize our entire sex.
Teach51 wrote:
It was not in my view a horrendous thing to do but seems to come from you feeling superior or at least trying to lllustrate their lack of ethics and integrity and make fun of them (they do sound kind of dumb).
Why should I feel superior? I didn't really got this and just wanted to know even that there was a bit of fun involved. Don't know why women are that way that they are and how they feel towards guys once they don't yet have a crush.
Twilightprincess wrote:
Most women do appreciate it when a man is respectful and treats them like human beings instead of subhumans to be studied for one’s own personal amusement.
People are different. Some women aren't into being treated nice. Once there were two pretty girls about 19 who I thought they were just trolling because they rejected all of the boys around. I was near to them with a beer and watched this. For this I just tried to look at them quite disrespectful and unconcerned like they were not even common but really cheap. As a result one of them sayd that she disliked how I was looking at her friend. But I noticed her feeling attracted to me and she started to get randomly in touch to me. I did look at her the same arrogant way before that I looked at her friend. Did she just dislike that I was looking at her friend too? At least she disliked all kind of nice guys who were easy to be with for her. Women are strange.
Twilightprincess wrote:
Why are you so interested in club behavior? The way people behave in clubs under the influence of alcohol says nothing about how they behave in real life.
In vino veritas. Once they are drinking and the way that they are moving and behaving you get a lot of the way that people are. Not all people drink of course and most women rarely drink at all. But if it comes to me I like the atmosphere. Music, beer, some people around, you may dance and having fun a bit. It's always kind of a little adventure.
As a guy and on your own you have to care a bit for not getting into a street fight of course even that I'm not as scared of other guys. Most guys like me. But clubs aren't really the right place for most people who have Asperger's.
Twilightprincess wrote:
Further, women are individuals. You can’t use one or two examples to generalize our entire sex.
That's right and I wont ever do this because I'm not an idiot. Don't know whether it's right to share such kind of little stories. But why not?
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This was a difficult read, not sure I fully understand but these "social experiments" to me show a disconnect. I assume you do want to connect with people and that is why you go to clubs but perhaps there are better and healthier ways. All in all, don't do yourself a disservice by getting into trouble!
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