Forever being alone as a Aspie
I used to have a job(not that it made any real difference far as if women like me or not),but I was laid off.I do live alone in my apartment,however I don't have a car at the moment. My hobbies includes bowling,Writing,gaming(tho been less interested with gaming lately),Writing,reading,photography,sports(mainly basketball and Motorsports),and history.
Well,females have always disliked or even hate me since my childhood. During Elementary school,a girl got me in trouble because she claimed I said a curse word,which caused problems. Back in my teenage years,I tried to asked this one girl out,but instead she said she already had a boyfriend only to find at the time I was asking her out she was single,so she lied to me.Others who I asked during High School simply wanted nothing to do with me. In College,there was this one girl from College I asked after talk with her for a couple in School Campus, I asked can have her phone number and her Email.Well she did gave me her email and phone number,but we mostly used email. After a several massages(specifically about once per week),and about 2 months later,I asked if do she want to hang out with me and she said she busy.I asked her again a week she said the same thing.I asked again a few weeks later, she said the same thing again.After a while,it was clear she wasn't interested in me in romantic or friendship way so,I decided to drop all contact with her.Other females I tried to converse with,they rejected before I even had a chance to get know them at all.Overall it just seem Women feel awkward and maybe even embarrassed to be around me and talk with me.
During out my adulthood/post College,women been b*tchy towards me. Just like my High School and College years, rejection was my only reality and many even stood up against me.Even who didn't they were neutral towards me and had zero interested in me whatsoever.For more than a year to almost two years now,I have pretty much stop trying. So one of the questions was if I have females friends .Of course not.Women don't even like me enough to have just a simple friendship.Don't even seem like women enjoy my conversations and find them to be ether awkward or boring.
So what do you think your real problem is? You have a job and have your own place, and those are things you have going for you. (As far as the job, you're in the same boat that a LOT of people are in at the moment, unfortunately, and there's nothing you can do about that.)
You mention that you don't have women friends. What about men friends? How many male friends would you say you have and what sorts of things do you do with them and how often? (And I mean like when life was normal, before all of this pandemic stuff - what's happening now has put sort of a damper on everything for everyone.)
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I agree with the essence of this. In my experience, NTs are judgmental regardless, but NT women usually much more so. Women are expected to be the more socially adept gender, which is why it might be hard for Aspie men to date them.
There's also the dilemma with Aspie women nowadays when we don't have many friends because of how judgmental NT women can be. The guys we do date may be attracted to us because of our social isolation and loneliness, which is how we end up with abusers and manipulators. Especially nowadays if you don't have your gaggle of girlfriends NT guys will suspect something is wrong with you.
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I agree with the essence of this. In my experience, NTs are judgmental regardless, but NT women usually much more so. Women are expected to be the more socially adept gender, which is why it might be hard for Aspie men to date them.
There's also the dilemma with Aspie women nowadays when we don't have many friends because of how judgmental NT women can be. The guys we do date may be attracted to us because of our social isolation and loneliness, which is how we end up with abusers and manipulators. Especially nowadays if you don't have your gaggle of girlfriends NT guys will suspect something is wrong with you.
I mostly agree with both of yall. Can't speak for anyone else,but from my experiences in my area,NT Woman are very unaccepting/hostile towards people who are different. In all of my years of living,I NEVER had a SINGLE good experience with a NT woman.To be fair however,my experiences with the few Aspie women I met in real life,they have only been moderately better compared to my experiences with NT women. However I had a couple of decent experiences with NT men,tho I also had many bad experiences with NT men as well. I see a part of the reason why I struggle with women. It's because men tend to be far accepting towards people who are different than compared to women in my area anyway tend to be judgmental towards people who are different.
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I used to have a job(not that it made any real difference far as if women like me or not),but I was laid off.I do live alone in my apartment,however I don't have a car at the moment. My hobbies includes bowling,Writing,gaming(tho been less interested with gaming lately),Writing,reading,photography,sports(mainly basketball and Motorsports),and history.
Well,females have always disliked or even hate me since my childhood. During Elementary school,a girl got me in trouble because she claimed I said a curse word,which caused problems. Back in my teenage years,I tried to asked this one girl out,but instead she said she already had a boyfriend only to find at the time I was asking her out she was single,so she lied to me.Others who I asked during High School simply wanted nothing to do with me. In College,there was this one girl from College I asked after talk with her for a couple in School Campus, I asked can have her phone number and her Email.Well she did gave me her email and phone number,but we mostly used email. After a several massages(specifically about once per week),and about 2 months later,I asked if do she want to hang out with me and she said she busy.I asked her again a week she said the same thing.I asked again a few weeks later, she said the same thing again.After a while,it was clear she wasn't interested in me in romantic or friendship way so,I decided to drop all contact with her.Other females I tried to converse with,they rejected before I even had a chance to get know them at all.Overall it just seem Women feel awkward and maybe even embarrassed to be around me and talk with me.
During out my adulthood/post College,women been b*tchy towards me. Just like my High School and College years, rejection was my only reality and many even stood up against me.Even who didn't they were neutral towards me and had zero interested in me whatsoever.For more than a year to almost two years now,I have pretty much stop trying. So one of the questions was if I have females friends .Of course not.Women don't even like me enough to have just a simple friendship.Don't even seem like women enjoy my conversations and find them to be ether awkward or boring.
So what do you think your real problem is? You have a job and have your own place, and those are things you have going for you. (As far as the job, you're in the same boat that a LOT of people are in at the moment, unfortunately, and there's nothing you can do about that.)
You mention that you don't have women friends. What about men friends? How many male friends would you say you have and what sorts of things do you do with them and how often? (And I mean like when life was normal, before all of this pandemic stuff - what's happening now has put sort of a damper on everything for everyone.)
Part of the real problem here is I do have social Awkwardness and have some of the typical aspie social difficulties(tho I'm have been trying to work on that). Also many women in my area are stuck up and many people in general are hostile towards people who are different.I did have some male friends back in the day.I did have a couple of friendships during my young adult years.However when I was in my mid 20s,one of them mocked me because I was still a virgin,and it got the point where I just decided to end the friendship.The more recent friendship I had took place a several years ago.He was kinda quirky just like me,tho he didn't have Aspergers like I did.He hang out sometimes.However even that friendship ended falling apart later on.By early 2018,we had a start several of serious arguments and we starting fighting.After a while,we also started to get bored with each other as well.By mid 2018,that friendship came to a end and since that time I never had friends ever again.So yea I used to have male friends,but I don't anymore.
Part of the real problem here is I do have social Awkwardness and have some of the typical aspie social difficulties(tho I'm have been trying to work on that). Also many women in my area are stuck up and many people in general are hostile towards people who are different.I did have some male friends back in the day.I did have a couple of friendships during my young adult years.However when I was in my mid 20s,one of them mocked me because I was still a virgin,and it got the point where I just decided to end the friendship.The more recent friendship I had took place a several years ago.He was kinda quirky just like me,tho he didn't have Aspergers like I did.He hang out sometimes.However even that friendship ended falling apart later on.By early 2018,we had a start several of serious arguments and we starting fighting.After a while,we also started to get bored with each other as well.By mid 2018,that friendship came to a end and since that time I never had friends ever again.So yea I used to have male friends,but I don't anymore.
So yeah... it seems to me the problem you have is a problem with human beings in general. It's not really fair of you to blame one entire gender on a problem that you obviously have with ALL human beings. And I'm not trying to be cruel - I'm hoping you can have some insight into your issues that you can maybe either change or improve upon.
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And I've seen enough of NT men to know they are capable of just the same amount of bullying and cruelty as NT women.
There are approximately 3.5 billion women on the planet. Is it really logical to assume they are ALL out to get you? That's ridiculous.
The fact is, if you have a problem with everyone you come into contact with, the problem is you.
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News talks about how the lockdown is causing people long term mental and physical health issues due to being alone. I’ve been alone my whole life and I’ll always be alone it seems as I’m not good enough for any women. I don’t feel sorry for people having to be alone for few weeks or month, they never felt sorry for me
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I'd imagine that those news reports are about people who live alone and thus have to spend most of their time alone, rather than specifically about people who aren't in relationships.
And I've seen enough of NT men to know they are capable of just the same amount of bullying and cruelty as NT women.
There are approximately 3.5 billion women on the planet. Is it really logical to assume they are ALL out to get you? That's ridiculous.
The fact is, if you have a problem with everyone you come into contact with, the problem is you.
He is clearly ranting and its obvious one speaks in superlatives in such a state. Logic on that broad scope doesnt apply to daily interactions when you are mistreated consistently by a certain type of person.
. It is dismissive to suggest that the experience that if you are 'off' NT women are more likely to pounce on you outright is ridiculous if that is OPs experience or indeed, mine, being a female NOT romantically inclined to other females and having lived in 4 countries in different cultures about 12 schools and subsequent adult life as well as travelling to many more throughout my life.
Hostility towards a male who appears awkward may well be a protective mechanism and fair enough if it stays within bounds- eg no false allegations etc--
but you dismiss the notion as though a person is going to encounter ALL the NT women in the world in order to form a fairer more 'logical' numbers-wise experience which is actually ridiculous.
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It is dismissive to suggest that the experience that if you are 'off' NT women are more likely to pounce on you outright is ridiculous if that is OPs experience or indeed, mine...being a female NOT romantically inclined to other females and having lived in 4 countries in different cultures about 12 schools and subsequent adult life as well as travelling to many more throughout my life.
So yeah... like I said... if everywhere you go, you have a problem, maybe the problem is you?
I mean, I don't know how to make this more clear. I'm not trying to attack anyone or single anyone out. But if a person has an ongoing problem and it's with EVERYONE, then the only common denominator is YOU. And it would be far smarter to figure out WHY you seem to have this ongoing issue and how to fix it rather than spending all your time placing blame and being angry about it and expecting the general population to change to suit you, which is going to solve exactly nothing at all and nothing will ever, ever change.
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It is dismissive to suggest that the experience that if you are 'off' NT women are more likely to pounce on you outright is ridiculous if that is OPs experience or indeed, mine...being a female NOT romantically inclined to other females and having lived in 4 countries in different cultures about 12 schools and subsequent adult life as well as travelling to many more throughout my life.
So yeah... like I said... if everywhere you go, you have a problem, maybe the problem is you?
I mean, I don't know how to make this more clear. I'm not trying to attack anyone or single anyone out. But if a person has an ongoing problem and it's with EVERYONE, then the only common denominator is YOU. And it would be far smarter to figure out WHY you seem to have this ongoing issue and how to fix it rather than spending all your time placing blame and being angry about it and expecting the general population to change to suit you, which is going to solve exactly nothing at all and nothing will ever, ever change.
I don’t want to give up getting a girlfriend or else it would mean the last 14 years were all for nothing.
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It is dismissive to suggest that the experience that if you are 'off' NT women are more likely to pounce on you outright is ridiculous if that is OPs experience or indeed, mine...being a female NOT romantically inclined to other females and having lived in 4 countries in different cultures about 12 schools and subsequent adult life as well as travelling to many more throughout my life.
So yeah... like I said... if everywhere you go, you have a problem, maybe the problem is you?
I mean, I don't know how to make this more clear. I'm not trying to attack anyone or single anyone out. But if a person has an ongoing problem and it's with EVERYONE, then the only common denominator is YOU. And it would be far smarter to figure out WHY you seem to have this ongoing issue and how to fix it rather than spending all your time placing blame and being angry about it and expecting the general population to change to suit you, which is going to solve exactly nothing at all and nothing will ever, ever change.
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It is dismissive to suggest that the experience that if you are 'off' NT women are more likely to pounce on you outright is ridiculous if that is OPs experience or indeed, mine...being a female NOT romantically inclined to other females and having lived in 4 countries in different cultures about 12 schools and subsequent adult life as well as travelling to many more throughout my life.
So yeah... like I said... if everywhere you go, you have a problem, maybe the problem is you?
I mean, I don't know how to make this more clear. I'm not trying to attack anyone or single anyone out. But if a person has an ongoing problem and it's with EVERYONE, then the only common denominator is YOU. And it would be far smarter to figure out WHY you seem to have this ongoing issue and how to fix it rather than spending all your time placing blame and being angry about it and expecting the general population to change to suit you, which is going to solve exactly nothing at all and nothing will ever, ever change.
Seem like you're obsessed with putting all the blame on Aspie men instead on the females who treat us poorly and reject us.Saying "you have a problem with everybody" doesn't cut it with me. I don't have a problem with everyone as you put it.I mostly have a problem with women who have treated me poorly,which unfortunately seem to be vast majority of women not including family members. Also,you are acting like we are just complaining about women and are not doing anything to fix our situation. Atleast for myself,I have been trying to improve on my social awkwardness and also been trying to come across as less weird as well. Also with the last sentence,are you basically saying that we just cut all contact with women since they are never going to like us anyway,and we should just shut up the f*ck up about it? Maybe we wouldn't "complaining" about women if they didn't all REJECT US and/or if they didn't treat us poorly.Maybe if you knew what it's like to be rejected by every single man and treated poorly overall by men, the way I have been rejected by every single woman and treated poorly by women overall, maybe you would have more compassion me and for other aspie men who get treat like sh*t by women.
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It is dismissive to suggest that the experience that if you are 'off' NT women are more likely to pounce on you outright is ridiculous if that is OPs experience or indeed, mine...being a female NOT romantically inclined to other females and having lived in 4 countries in different cultures about 12 schools and subsequent adult life as well as travelling to many more throughout my life.
So yeah... like I said... if everywhere you go, you have a problem, maybe the problem is you?
I mean, I don't know how to make this more clear. I'm not trying to attack anyone or single anyone out. But if a person has an ongoing problem and it's with EVERYONE, then the only common denominator is YOU. And it would be far smarter to figure out WHY you seem to have this ongoing issue and how to fix it rather than spending all your time placing blame and being angry about it and expecting the general population to change to suit you, which is going to solve exactly nothing at all and nothing will ever, ever change.
@luhluhluh what i said is based on what Ive observed - anybody that stands out as different including disabled people are more likely to be mistreated.
Maybe watch the movie Carrie and imagine it less theatrical if things haven't gone that way for you.which seems to be the case. Who was the problem when she got mistreated- the girl or her peers? Who was more capable of changing and more deserving of sympathy?
Morally tio it is imperative such people adapt acknowledge differences and treat people better
You cannot remove ASDs far as I know though people have tried. You CAN change mindsets . you can also show empathy and not invaludate someone's real experiences.
Let me know if things have changed re: being able to magically become non autistic. Im sure me and my kids would benefit. Thanks..
The gay/straight analogy works here perhaps moreso as ASD can encompass every realm of life before puberty including eating dressing yourself being able to recognize dangerous situations executice function
impulse control etc
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Everyone back in their respective corner, please.
Ricky isn't trashing women, he's clearly talking about his personal experience, which is allowed.
There's a difference between saying, "Women are mean," and "The women I've interacted with were mean." Don't be so quick to jump the gun and assume any lonely, frustrated man is an a$$hole or a misogynist. Thanks.
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