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24 Jul 2020, 9:12 am

I think it's worth noting that seriousness is not the same as maturity. Personally, I tend to be viewed as fairly mature but somewhat child-like. I can be serious when needed, but I also dress up as silly characters, watch cartoons, read books aimed at children or teenagers and do improv comedy. My imagination is still as overactive as ever. That's usually what people mean when they refer to me as child-like, since I still maintain that aspect of play in my life.


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24 Jul 2020, 9:49 am

Lost_dragon wrote:
I think it's worth noting that seriousness is not the same as maturity.
Personally, I tend to be viewed as fairly mature but somewhat child-like. I can be serious when needed, but I also dress up as silly characters, watch cartoons, read books aimed at children or teenagers and do improv comedy. My imagination is still as overactive as ever. That's usually what people mean when they refer to me as child-like, since I still maintain that aspect of play in my life.


Yeah, you sound mature online, as I have mentioned.
I can't believe you are only a baby. :mrgreen:
I have never had a playful moment, in my entire life, as people here can tell. :P :wink:



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26 Jul 2020, 10:01 am

Lost_dragon wrote:
I think it's worth noting that seriousness is not the same as maturity. Personally, I tend to be viewed as fairly mature but somewhat child-like. I can be serious when needed, but I also dress up as silly characters, watch cartoons, read books aimed at children or teenagers and do improv comedy. My imagination is still as overactive as ever. That's usually what people mean when they refer to me as child-like, since I still maintain that aspect of play in my life.

Sounds like you are a really cute way. I totally like if girls are a bit that way. Makes them less boring. If it comes to me there are people who don't even believe my age.


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26 Jul 2020, 6:26 pm

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blooiejagwa wrote:
i forgot you have a 'chip on your shoulder' about this from past bad experiences and read it as something else when someone is trying to share and learn from each other's experiences -
but if you take into account the intent behind the poster's words and line it up with his words (combined with empathy) it makes even more sense what i said.

anyway, you can think what you want, it's odd that you're on this website though


Why are you getting defensive? the analogy is the same, all people can potentially be victims of NT hierarchy and competitive society but members on this forum are pointing out they are more likely to be dealt a wrong card which the OP has said is unfair. Likewise black people are not the only victims of police but they want others to know their lives matter because they also have been dealt a wrong card.


The reason that we stress that 'Black Lives Matter' is because there seems to be a difference of opinion on the issue. That and 'defund the police' really means 'stop militarizing the police and get them some diversity training', but that's too long for a sound bite unless you're Aspie. Not intending these as political statements, rather using them to make a point.

The same applies to ND people on this site (and everywhere else, but especially here). If I'm a white ND Anglo guy and I can support BLM, I will welcome your support of ND people as an NT.



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26 Jul 2020, 6:32 pm

To a certain segment of the population, black lives really don’t “matter.” This is why “black lives matter” should be emphasized.

Many people are dealt “wrong cards.” I was one of them, even though I’m white and be regarded as “Anglo” by those who use that word.

I am not a fan of some things that have been done under the banner of “black lives matter”—frankly, lots of the crap have been done by white people.



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26 Jul 2020, 9:25 pm

I think that was my original point that being "dealt a wrong hand" is common to many different groups of people.

As Lady Gaga says I'm beautiful in my way
'Cause God makes no mistakes
I'm on the right track, baby I was born this way
Don't hide yourself in regret
Just love yourself and you're set
I'm on the right track, baby
I was born this way



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26 Jul 2020, 10:47 pm

cyberdad wrote:
I think that was my original point that being "dealt a wrong hand" is common to many different groups of people.

As Lady Gaga says I'm beautiful in my way
'Cause God makes no mistakes
I'm on the right track, baby I was born this way
Don't hide yourself in regret
Just love yourself and you're set
I'm on the right track, baby
I was born this way


In the context of an NT social structure, that is just such BS.

NTs embrace a hierarchical system of how a person is valued.
Well, the vast majority do. 8O

There may be a lot of pretty words,
But when it comes to the crunch,
Pragmatism and self-interest almost always prevail. 8)



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27 Jul 2020, 12:52 am

Pepe wrote:
NTs embrace a hierarchical system of how a person is valued.

Pragmatism and self-interest almost always prevail. 8)


Both correct. Therein lies the challenge.



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29 Jul 2020, 8:47 pm

Lost_dragon wrote:
I think it's worth noting that seriousness is not the same as maturity. Personally, I tend to be viewed as fairly mature but somewhat child-like. I can be serious when needed, but I also dress up as silly characters, watch cartoons, read books aimed at children or teenagers and do improv comedy. My imagination is still as overactive as ever. That's usually what people mean when they refer to me as child-like, since I still maintain that aspect of play in my life.


I’m the same way. I’m 27 and my hobbies are considered childlike. It’s important to be serious as needed. I find overactive imaginations and daydreaming more interesting than talking about philosophy and politics. At the same time I know that the world can be a very serious, crazy place. I have faith that it will get better.

Another thing I want to bring up is that as a woman on the spectrum more serious and complex males on the spectrum are very drawn to me. It creeps me out.


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29 Jul 2020, 11:20 pm

xxZeromancerlovexx wrote:

I’m the same way. I’m 27 and my hobbies are considered childlike. It’s important to be serious as needed. I find overactive imaginations and daydreaming more interesting than talking about philosophy and politics. At the same time I know that the world can be a very serious, crazy place. I have faith that it will get better.

Another thing I want to bring up is that as a woman on the spectrum more serious and complex males on the spectrum are very drawn to me. It creeps me out.


I am a lot older than you and I unashamedly embrace my childlike mindset.
No NT bully is going to dictate how I live my own life.
Call me the ultimate REBEL! :twisted:



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30 Jul 2020, 6:24 pm

xxZeromancerlovexx wrote:
I’m the same way. I’m 27 and my hobbies are considered childlike. It’s important to be serious as needed. I find overactive imaginations and daydreaming more interesting than talking about philosophy and politics. At the same time I know that the world can be a very serious, crazy place. I have faith that it will get better.

Another thing I want to bring up is that as a woman on the spectrum more serious and complex males on the spectrum are very drawn to me. It creeps me out.


I enjoy talking about both, however I think that there is a time and a place for philosophy. I think it has value but that people tend to over-complicate things. The main part about philosophy I dislike is some of the pretentious conversations. Back in my foundation year of University, I had to take some additional topics. We were tasked with writing an essay on what reality is and I remember sitting there staring blankly at my page. I was incredibly tempted to just write:

"Dear Assessor,

I came here to learn about computers and cameras. Go ask the philosophy department. That's what they're there for isn't it?"

Anyway, of course I didn't actually write that. However, it turned out to be one of the worst essays I've ever written. I don't mind casually talking about philosophy, but only for so long and only to a certain extent.

There was a guy in that class who was quite into philosophy and he had a very laid-back approach to everything. I found him too laid-back; he annoyed me. One day, we were in a group project and we had been assigned a time-sensitive task. He started talking about taking time to smell the flowers and that whatever people wanted to do for the task was fine. Everyone in the group was equally non-committal to a plan. I ended up telling him and the rest of the group "Alright, listen up. That's all well and good, but we only have twenty minutes to do this, so we need a plan and we need one fast. So, here's the plan and if you don't like it then we can alter it accordingly, but we can't just sit here and do nothing".

I tend to be rather task-orientated which typically overrides my initial hesitancy in social situations. Admittedly I can get a little bossy if I think that not enough progress is being made. I let others lead if they want to, but if they aren't actively leading then I get a bit antsy. So, in that particular situation I wasn't exactly welcoming of philosophical insight. :x


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