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07 Feb 2021, 7:29 pm

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While I was getting dinner, he came up to me to get my attention and said hi, and apologized for everything, started asking about my weekend and everything. And then when I gave him a chance to exit the conversation he followed me to get dinner, and kept talking to me. So we talked about plans and everything. Like setting something up.

I still did not get the sense that he realized my intention, but maybe I am just dense. There was a lot more laughter from him, it actually bordered on seeming nervous at times, but he seemed very interested in talking to me. Like I said, he sought me out and all that. Big friendly vibes at the very least. Like... if he knew I was interested and was not interested himself, I feel like he would have not been so eager to speak to me for like half an hour while we were getting dinner.

I did not get flirtatious vibes, but to be fair, we were in the middle of a public campus sidewalk in the freezing cold, with face masks on. So, I don't know what flirtatious vibes would have looked like in that context.

I remain confused but slightly more uplifted?


This all sounds promising.

If you weren't flirting with him, he might be scared to start flirting with you. Early romantic interest can be nerve wracking, and he doesnt sound like a smooth talking NT type.

I hope you guys make some successful plans and have fun getting to know each other better!


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07 Feb 2021, 8:06 pm

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While I was getting dinner, he came up to me to get my attention and said hi, and apologized for everything, started asking about my weekend and everything. And then when I gave him a chance to exit the conversation he followed me to get dinner, and kept talking to me. So we talked about plans and everything. Like setting something up.

I still did not get the sense that he realized my intention, but maybe I am just dense. There was a lot more laughter from him, it actually bordered on seeming nervous at times, but he seemed very interested in talking to me. Like I said, he sought me out and all that. Big friendly vibes at the very least. Like... if he knew I was interested and was not interested himself, I feel like he would have not been so eager to speak to me for like half an hour while we were getting dinner.

I did not get flirtatious vibes, but to be fair, we were in the middle of a public campus sidewalk in the freezing cold, with face masks on. So, I don't know what flirtatious vibes would have looked like in that context.

I remain confused but slightly more uplifted?


Yes - he likes you! He’s just shy. :D

Congratulations! :thumright:



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07 Feb 2021, 10:49 pm

If I was a 20s man who digs you, I’d be pretty jealous.

The guy likes you.

I’m actually thinking you might be being defensive in the sense where this might be “too good to be true.”



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07 Feb 2021, 11:27 pm

You're a gorgeous woman Whale_Tuune, that can be discouraging, especially if he is shy. I hope it works out how you would like it to, best of luck in this endeavor.


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07 Feb 2021, 11:42 pm

Whale_Tuune wrote:
While I was getting dinner, he came up to me to get my attention and said hi, and apologized for everything, started asking about my weekend and everything. And then when I gave him a chance to exit the conversation he followed me to get dinner, and kept talking to me. So we talked about plans and everything. Like setting something up.

I still did not get the sense that he realized my intention, but maybe I am just dense. There was a lot more laughter from him, it actually bordered on seeming nervous at times, but he seemed very interested in talking to me. Like I said, he sought me out and all that. Big friendly vibes at the very least. Like... if he knew I was interested and was not interested himself, I feel like he would have not been so eager to speak to me for like half an hour while we were getting dinner.

I did not get flirtatious vibes, but to be fair, we were in the middle of a public campus sidewalk in the freezing cold, with face masks on. So, I don't know what flirtatious vibes would have looked like in that context.

I remain confused but slightly more uplifted?

That sounds a lot like younger me. Girls liked me but I didn't know what to do.

Honestly, having fun while young is alright, but he seems serious about his religious functions, are you sure you want to get tangled up in a religion you two do not share? I'm sure it won't be the last event he invites you to where you will feel lost. I don't think I've ever had any crushes that were this problematic out the door.

I'm of Jewish descent myself, from a non-practicing family. In Jewish customs, in a family, the descent of the woman is more important than the man's, so ultimately it may play a role there as well. Basically you not being Jewish may be a long-term problem if he's serious about his religion. Nevermind the fact that the two of you may not even share the basic system of beliefs. My two cents.

Have fun though.



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08 Feb 2021, 5:14 am

I didn't know his religion would get so much attention on here? Well, I got the sense that he was flirting with me last year, before the pandemic.

Yeah, he's somewhat observant and I know the religious rules in Judaism, I also know that they're shifting now in more progressive circles. It really depends on the person and congregation I think, like in Orthodox Christianity. (My two cents: some Orthodox Churches are okay with interfaith-married parishioners, some aren't, just depends on the congregation.)

When we do talk about religion it's kind of vague. We've shared Old Testament/Tanach jokes. Fun times. I like that he thinks about God a lot, which most guys my age (Christian, Jewish, or Muslim) do not, really.

I don't know what you mean by problematic. Like I said, if he seemed interested in me, I figured he was okay with dating someone who wasn't Jewish. Interfaith dating is fine on my end because I have many non-Christian close friends and family. But only he can know how he feels about interfaith relationships, I'm not gonna make assumptions either way.


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08 Feb 2021, 6:01 am

My mother is a “non-observant” Jew.

Some very Orthodox-type Jews don’t exactly have progressive views on women.



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08 Feb 2021, 8:58 am

Ummm I'm pretty sure he's not Orthodox. He said he's like a blend of Reform and Conservative. But... idk. I didn't really want to ask that question when we are not even dating yet.

He's very friendly. I don't think he's misogynistic just because he happens to be religious.

He left me on read when I told him what times I was available. :T wish me luck wrongplanet.


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08 Feb 2021, 12:52 pm

He’s probably okay, then.

Most Jews up to Modern Orthodox don’t have cuckoo views about women. Most Jewish men don’t wear their religion on their sleeves. Especially if they don’t wear a yarmulke. Very few non-Orthodox Jews wear yarmulkes.

Good luck!



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08 Feb 2021, 1:24 pm

Congrats, you will be a couple in the few upcoming days, the deal is sealed.



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08 Feb 2021, 1:44 pm

He has still left me on read... I don't know what his thinking is. He is a difficult man to decipher.


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08 Feb 2021, 1:59 pm

What does "leaving you on read" mean?

I sense this is an "old fart" "OK Boomer" sort of question :P



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08 Feb 2021, 2:17 pm

Means he read my message of my available times and did not respond.

Generally seen as a sign of disinterest if done too long or at inopportune times.


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08 Feb 2021, 2:36 pm

Ask him why he did that.



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08 Feb 2021, 9:41 pm

This is my advice. If you want a direct answer, then you have to ask a direction question.

If you like someone, don't beat around the bush, just straight up ask them out. "Hey do you want to go do xyz sometime?" If they say yeah, then you know they're interested.

If they're leaving you on read or you get blocked, then you know they're not interested in you.

If they respond with being "too busy", then maybe they really are too busy or some people say they're too busy as a way to write someone off.



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08 Feb 2021, 9:46 pm

I'm going to be perfectly honest with you OP.

You probably hear this a lot but you are definitely attractive (based on your profile picture), plus you're 21 years old. Even if this guy doesn't work out, I'm sure there are plenty of guys out there who are willing to date you, and you could easily find a boyfriend rather quickly, due to your age and attractiveness. That's the advantage of being a young and attractive woman, finding romantic and sexual partners is going to be easier. You've already had several boyfriends; you can EASILY find someone new so don't worry if this guy rejects you or it doesn't work out.