Height being most important factor?
I had a 6'4 woman neighbor. the guy she as with was about 6foot. Shes probably the tallest woman ive ever seen. I suppose she had no choice to go for somebody shorter. That's a special case though. Most woman will not date somebody shorter than themselves.
I agree.
The vast majority of women don't have a 6 ft tall height requirement, although some women do... BUT the vast majority of women want someone that is taller than they are. So men who very short and are at or below the average height for a woman, may face some disadvantages in the dating world, but I do believe this can eventually be overcome.
Short women (but not all of them) tend to be the pickiest when it comes to height ironically. From my observation, it's the women that are under 5 ft 3 who are the most likely to have requirements that the man must be tall and most short women that I know are in relationships with guys that are 6 ft or taller.
I'm in several different clubs at my college, including one church group that I sometimes attend. The running joke in the church group is that if a girl is short and cute, her boyfriend is probably a 6 ft tall white man, I call it the "6 ft tall white guy syndrome". And i'm right most of the time. Iv'e met many of these guys and they all have 3 things in common; tall, white, and good looking. Iv'e never seen any of these girls dating a guy who's short and/or brown.
Maybe it's because church girls tend to have more traditional beliefs and are therefore much more likely to have traditional and stereotypical views on what makes a man attractive, which in this case is a tall good looking white man, at least in western societies. But this is just a theory.
Maybe girls who identify more as liberal or as non-conformist, are more likely to be open minded when it comes to finding different types of men attractive. This is just a theory as well.
So maybe short men would have better luck dating in cities or cultures where people tend to be more open minded. A place with a high hispanic or asian population might be ideal because asian and hispanic women tend to be shorter compared to white women. So in theory, would experience less height discrimination in dating.
The taller guys all have nicer-looking faces. The shortest guy is balding and kinda funny-looking. I bet if you took pictures of their faces and asked women to pick without knowing their height, they'd have the same results.
In the video, when asked why they weren't interested in the shorter guys, or what the shorter guys would need to win them over, they cited the fact that the guy is short as a reason for disinterest.
That short guy should look for love in south-america or south-east asia as women from those regions tend to be shorter so his height may be less of a disadvantage there.
If he speaks Spanish, he could try south-america. They're usually shorter compared to white girls so his height may be less of an issue there. Girls from Mexico only average about 5 ft 2 and it's likely similar in other countries from mid or south america.
Another good place is The Philippines. Filipino girls only average about 5 ft tall, they speak good english, and they're usually pretty receptive to going out with white guys. The downside is that they're usually fairly poor (especially girls from the provinces) and may or may not only be dating you for the potential green card. But hey, if this is your only option, then it may be worth it.
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I fail to understand why "white" is considered most attractive in the states?
"White" people in the states like to toast and tan (and even pay for it) to try and make their skin darker, because darker is considered more conventionally beautiful there.
In china they have full coverage sun-protection because paler skin is considered more beautiful.
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I fail to understand why "white" is considered most attractive in the states?
It's because white skin is the dominant skin color in the United States and many people (not all of them) tend to be attracted to people that are like them, whether that it's in similar culture and/or similar in appearance, and that includes dating people who are the same race as you. And since conservative or christian girls tend to be more traditional, it would make sense that their attraction to guys is based on more traditional ideas as well and they're less likely to date outside their race.
You also have to take into consideration different regions since the US is such a large country. For instance, in a small town in the mid-west, people tend to hold more conservative views and may be less likely to date "outsiders". This is partially because in many small towns, there are very few black people living there so people who are born and raised in these small towns may not ever be exposed to different races and cultures of people. And if they do, it's mostly negative press from the news or media.
BUT in bigger, more liberal cities, especially with a higher minority population, people may be more open minded when it comes to racial preferences. Although this isn't always true, especially if there is a cultural barrier that tends to separate the races. For instance, black people in America are associated with being ghetto (not all of them are), and not everyone can relate to the ghetto lifestyle if they grew up rich and privileged, so these people may be less likely to date black people if they feel like there is a cultural or lifestyle difference. If that makes sense.
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I fail to understand why "white" is considered most attractive in the states?
It's because white skin is the dominant skin color in the United States and many people (not all of them) tend to be attracted to people that are like them, whether that it's in similar culture and/or similar in appearance, and that includes dating people who are the same race as you. And since conservative or christian girls tend to be more traditional, it would make sense that their attraction to guys is based on more traditional ideas as well and they're less likely to date outside their race.
You also have to take into consideration different regions since the US is such a large country. For instance, in a small town in the mid-west, people tend to hold more conservative views and may be less likely to date "outsiders". This is partially because in many small towns, there are very few black people living there so people who are born and raised in these small towns may not ever be exposed to different races and cultures of people. And if they do, it's mostly negative press from the news or media.
BUT in bigger, more liberal cities, especially with a higher minority population, people may be more open minded when it comes to racial preferences. Although this isn't always true, especially if there is a cultural barrier that tends to separate the races. For instance, black people in America are associated with being ghetto (not all of them are), and not everyone can relate to the ghetto lifestyle if they grew up rich and privileged, so these people may be less likely to date black people if they feel like there is a cultural or lifestyle difference. If that makes sense.
This does make sense actually. I grew up in the poor/rural south, so most of my life roughly half the surrounding population had been black, and I've never thought anything of it. I had many friends who were both white and black, and many enemies who were both white and black. And many romantic crushes who were both white and black.
Moving north, there are far fewer black people in the surrounding population. It seems odd to me now that I notice it. And most of my friends and enemies and crushes here have all been white. Because there are just more white people in general in this particular area.
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I agree
I do think some of it depends on where you are in the world and what the 'beauty' standard is there. Generally speaking, in terms of the US anyway, I would say that women don't care that much. Height is a perk not a requirement. If it's a requirement, she's probably a 'girl' vs a 'woman' - a difference of maturity.
But there is an important thing to remember, the weight of any physical attribute only holds importance in terms of initial attraction. It creates some limitation but ultimately its your personality and who you are that determines whether or not you're going to get anywhere.
I'm 5'10" none of my boyfriends have been taller than me. Only one person I've gone on a date with has been taller than myself, and he was a total waste of time. lol
Truth; I care a lot more about scent than a guy's height. It doesn't matter how good looking (overall) or tall a guy might be, if I don't gel with his scent those things are of no consequence
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But like I said, most guys are at a height where it doesn't significantly impact their dating options. If you're a 5 ft 10 man, even a 5 ft 7 man in certain cases, you have no reason to think height matters because it doesn't negatively impact you.
Once you start getting below a certain height, especially below the average female height in your country, then you'll definitely start feeling some effects of height discrimination in dating. I do believe that in most cases, this can be overcome, although you may have to work harder compared to a man who's 5 ft 10.
I think this is the most sensible advice I have seen. In the dating game height is just one factor but shouldn't drive negative thoughts if you are rejected.
Even midgets have kids. I have a neighbor on my street who is a dwarf. She's a woman though. SO in a sense it's an excuse, but at the same time a very real disadvantage, because height discrimination is of course a very real factor amongst females.
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Most men i see are either the same height or taller than the woman. I did see one dwarf guy, like 4foot tall, with a taller(5'5 maybe) obese woman with acne, it was bizarre site. That's why i remember it.
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