I don't care for "Love on the Spectrum"

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28 Mar 2022, 5:23 am

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Otherwise one or the other will probably "stray" at some point.


This feels out of place and confusing to me, so I need to ask: what do you mean by this?

If two people in a relationship don't fully understand each other then one of them is bound to have sex behind the others back? If this was your thought, why do you think that? I don't follow the logic..... why does lack of understanding = infidelity?

To be clear, I am not accusing or upset. I am just confused.

OK what I am suggesting is that the couple in question won't develop a strong sense of sex being an expression of mutual feelings and although they may enjoy having each other available as convenient sex partners they might not fully develop the "normal" instinct for sexual fidelity. Sorry this is not simple to explain, and is somewhat based on personal experience.

EDIT please understand I'm talking about two people who don't know they're on the spectrum which was more likely when I was in my 20s than nowadays.


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28 Mar 2022, 9:16 pm

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As far as personal life is concerned, they really don't go care that far, save the couple who get married at the end of Season 2. If anything, the fact that people on the Spectrum even date at all is treated as if it's the Eighth Wonder of the World. As has been stated before, this show wasn't designed with people on the Spectrum in mind.


But what's the furthest they have gone in terms of personal lives? Do they deal with couple sexual issues for example, or raising children, etc?



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29 Mar 2022, 5:27 am

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As far as personal life is concerned, they really don't go care that far, save the couple who get married at the end of Season 2. If anything, the fact that people on the Spectrum even date at all is treated as if it's the Eighth Wonder of the World. As has been stated before, this show wasn't designed with people on the Spectrum in mind.


But what's the furthest they have gone in terms of personal lives? Do they deal with couple sexual issues for example, or raising children, etc?

In terms of the show, you have 4 successful pairings.

1.) The couple who were already a couple and getting married. They are very high functioning and met without the need for any sort of coaching.
2.) The fairly low functioning guy who was paired with a Down Syndrome woman.
3.) Two same-sex couples.

The message for moderately functioning, heterosexual autistic men was extremely discouraging.


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29 Mar 2022, 11:13 am

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The message for moderately functioning, heterosexual autistic men was extremely discouraging.


The storyline with Michael was both heartbreaking and infuriating. He seems like a sweet guy but there were times I wanted to reach through the TV and shake him for not seeing the obvious (at least to me).

And nobody seems to know why, but there is a higher percentage of LGBT people on the spectrum than in the general public.



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01 Apr 2022, 12:34 pm

MaxE wrote:
ironpony wrote:
jamesebtrout wrote:
As far as personal life is concerned, they really don't go care that far, save the couple who get married at the end of Season 2. If anything, the fact that people on the Spectrum even date at all is treated as if it's the Eighth Wonder of the World. As has been stated before, this show wasn't designed with people on the Spectrum in mind.


But what's the furthest they have gone in terms of personal lives? Do they deal with couple sexual issues for example, or raising children, etc?

In terms of the show, you have 4 successful pairings.

1.) The couple who were already a couple and getting married. They are very high functioning and met without the need for any sort of coaching.
2.) The fairly low functioning guy who was paired with a Down Syndrome woman.
3.) Two same-sex couples.

The message for moderately functioning, heterosexual autistic men was extremely discouraging.


What is the intended message?



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01 Apr 2022, 2:54 pm

ironpony wrote:
MaxE wrote:
ironpony wrote:
jamesebtrout wrote:
As far as personal life is concerned, they really don't go care that far, save the couple who get married at the end of Season 2. If anything, the fact that people on the Spectrum even date at all is treated as if it's the Eighth Wonder of the World. As has been stated before, this show wasn't designed with people on the Spectrum in mind.


But what's the furthest they have gone in terms of personal lives? Do they deal with couple sexual issues for example, or raising children, etc?

In terms of the show, you have 4 successful pairings.

1.) The couple who were already a couple and getting married. They are very high functioning and met without the need for any sort of coaching.
2.) The fairly low functioning guy who was paired with a Down Syndrome woman.
3.) Two same-sex couples.

The message for moderately functioning, heterosexual autistic men was extremely discouraging.


What is the intended message?

"Give up"?

But you're OK if you're gay.


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01 Apr 2022, 5:26 pm

Well it seems that a good amount on here do not like the show but it seems it may have actually helped people which is good?



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01 Apr 2022, 6:03 pm

ironpony wrote:
Well it seems that a good amount on here do not like the show but it seems it may have actually helped people which is good?


This is actually similar to the Sofia Jirau story (she's the Victorian Secret Model with Downs). On the one hand the participants in the show get an opportunity to get publicity and become TV stars. Some of them are certainly role models.

On the other hand they are also vulnerable. I appreciate how reality TV shows people when they are at their most vulnerable anyway and creates life drama that viewers often eagerly follow. But I do wonder how some (particularly the young men) might see themselves afterward? whether they might feel humiliated?

I am also not sure what the success rate is? The successful couples appearing on the program appear to have already met before being cast on the show.



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01 Apr 2022, 6:11 pm

I finally let him go some years back and he has tried to hook me back in. However, I have kept my guard up



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01 Apr 2022, 7:29 pm

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Well it seems that a good amount on here do not like the show but it seems it may have actually helped people which is good?


This is actually similar to the Sofia Jirau story (she's the Victorian Secret Model with Downs). On the one hand the participants in the show get an opportunity to get publicity and become TV stars. Some of them are certainly role models.

On the other hand they are also vulnerable. I appreciate how reality TV shows people when they are at their most vulnerable anyway and creates life drama that viewers often eagerly follow. But I do wonder how some (particularly the young men) might see themselves afterward? whether they might feel humiliated?

I am also not sure what the success rate is? The successful couples appearing on the program appear to have already met before being cast on the show.


Oh ok why men more than women?



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01 Apr 2022, 8:10 pm

ironpony wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
ironpony wrote:
Well it seems that a good amount on here do not like the show but it seems it may have actually helped people which is good?


This is actually similar to the Sofia Jirau story (she's the Victorian Secret Model with Downs). On the one hand the participants in the show get an opportunity to get publicity and become TV stars. Some of them are certainly role models.

On the other hand they are also vulnerable. I appreciate how reality TV shows people when they are at their most vulnerable anyway and creates life drama that viewers often eagerly follow. But I do wonder how some (particularly the young men) might see themselves afterward? whether they might feel humiliated?

I am also not sure what the success rate is? The successful couples appearing on the program appear to have already met before being cast on the show.


Oh ok why men more than women?


Oh that's easy....men have a much harder time than women to find love (regardless of background), When you add a diagnosis of autism the order of magnitude difficulty goes up considerably. Again don't want to generalise but judging from posts on this forum plenty of young men on the spectrum have disclosed issues with clothes, personal hygiene and attitude.

That's why you see more men on these shows. Like dating apps.



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01 Apr 2022, 8:35 pm

i wonder how many discouraged men go gay?



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01 Apr 2022, 9:09 pm

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i wonder how many discouraged men go gay?


well that's taking things a bit far :lol:



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01 Apr 2022, 9:14 pm

cyberdad wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
i wonder how many discouraged men go gay?


well that's taking things a bit far :lol:

but it is a real thing.



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01 Apr 2022, 10:17 pm

auntblabby wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
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i wonder how many discouraged men go gay?


well that's taking things a bit far :lol:

but it is a real thing.


Discouraged men go porn



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02 Apr 2022, 2:04 am

this one did both.