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11 Sep 2023, 5:37 pm

MatchboxVagabond wrote:
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My daughter visited a matriarchal tribe in Panama. The men were content.The women were in charge so they had no worries.Other males should take heed.
When Mama is happy, everyone is happy.
The Kuna people
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Kuna

Those sorts of things depend on a very specific set of circumstances. I wouldn't expect it to generalize. I'm wagering that other significant things were different as women being in charge had never lasted in much of the world, even when women do rise to the top.

What do you mean?



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11 Sep 2023, 8:06 pm

MatchboxVagabond wrote:
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My daughter visited a matriarchal tribe in Panama. The men were content.The women were in charge so they had no worries.Other males should take heed.
When Mama is happy, everyone is happy.
The Kuna people
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Kuna

Those sorts of things depend on a very specific set of circumstances. I wouldn't expect it to generalize. I'm wagering that other significant things were different as women being in charge had never lasted in much of the world, even when women do rise to the top.

Violent angry men may have something to do with that.Wherever they are in control women suffer.A good example would be the Taliban.
There are other Matriarchal societies.
https://www.townandcountrymag.com/socie ... ties-list/


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12 Sep 2023, 10:57 am

Misslizard wrote:
MatchboxVagabond wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
My daughter visited a matriarchal tribe in Panama. The men were content.The women were in charge so they had no worries.Other males should take heed.
When Mama is happy, everyone is happy.
The Kuna people
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Kuna

Those sorts of things depend on a very specific set of circumstances. I wouldn't expect it to generalize. I'm wagering that other significant things were different as women being in charge had never lasted in much of the world, even when women do rise to the top.

Violent angry men may have something to do with that.Wherever they are in control women suffer.A good example would be the Taliban.
There are other Matriarchal societies.
https://www.townandcountrymag.com/socie ... ties-list/

It doesn't though. Whenever those sorts are in power, everybody suffers. It's inaccurate that the men didn't also suffer. The women under that Taliban weren't allowed to leave their houses, which sounds, and is, oppressive, but then you look at the violence and extreme punishment that impacted the men that were forced to leave their houses, and it doesn't seem so great to be a man there.

If matriarchy is better, that's probably more down to the structural issues that would need to be changed to support it. In the US, there's scant evidence that simply having women in charge makes any difference. Living in parts of the world where food and shelter aren't as hard to come by certainly doesn't hurt.



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12 Sep 2023, 1:41 pm

MatchboxVagabond wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
MatchboxVagabond wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
My daughter visited a matriarchal tribe in Panama. The men were content.The women were in charge so they had no worries.Other males should take heed.
When Mama is happy, everyone is happy.
The Kuna people
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Kuna

Those sorts of things depend on a very specific set of circumstances. I wouldn't expect it to generalize. I'm wagering that other significant things were different as women being in charge had never lasted in much of the world, even when women do rise to the top.

Violent angry men may have something to do with that.Wherever they are in control women suffer.A good example would be the Taliban.
There are other Matriarchal societies.
https://www.townandcountrymag.com/socie ... ties-list/

It doesn't though. Whenever those sorts are in power, everybody suffers. It's inaccurate that the men didn't also suffer. The women under that Taliban weren't allowed to leave their houses, which sounds, and is, oppressive, but then you look at the violence and extreme punishment that impacted the men that were forced to leave their houses, and it doesn't seem so great to be a man there.

If matriarchy is better, that's probably more down to the structural issues that would need to be changed to support it. In the US, there's scant evidence that simply having women in charge makes any difference. Living in parts of the world where food and shelter aren't as hard to come by certainly doesn't hurt.

Men have it better under the Taliban.They can go to school and walk around bare headed and not get beheaded for it.Certainly nobody has it great under them.
I don’t see much evidence that matriarchal societies treat the men badly.


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