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Cigalle33
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16 Sep 2023, 9:45 am

MaxE wrote:

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Yet the three higest ranking judges in the UK came to the conclusion he was not a danger to society.

Well maybe they are wrong.

Public school twits. Probably never been right about anything in their lives except perhaps what wine to pair with Beouf Bourgignon

Exactly ! !

Are they living in the real world and seeing how things are for ordinary folk?

Some judges are probably decent and capable and intelligent.
Others are likely out of touch

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16 Sep 2023, 10:48 am

Cigalle33 wrote:

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My dad said if someone threw acid in his face that he would do exactly the same thing back to them. Eye for an eye.

An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.

Nonsensical logic from your father

Logic has nothing to do with it. It's an emotional response.

Yes, hence why I said "nonsensical".

It doesn't serve anything to retaliate with more violence

Totally serves one’s desire for revenge, especially in the moment. If Jamesy’s dad got acid attacked and was then able to grab some and splash the attacker right back I’d applaud him for it.

If he waited til the guy was out of jail after serving his sentence and then did it, not so sure I’d applaud it.. maybe, but I’d at least think he was making an unwise move that would probably now lane him significant jail time because it would be obvious that it was planned vs an in the moment reactionary response.

I guess it depends largely on when an eye for an eye sort of revenge is executed whether it’s applause worthy or worthy of a pause and think; Hmmmm..

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16 Sep 2023, 9:44 pm

goldfish21 wrote:

Cigalle33 wrote:

MaxE wrote:

Cigalle33 wrote:

Jamesy wrote:

My dad said if someone threw acid in his face that he would do exactly the same thing back to them. Eye for an eye.

An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.

Nonsensical logic from your father

Logic has nothing to do with it. It's an emotional response.

Yes, hence why I said "nonsensical".

It doesn't serve anything to retaliate with more violence

Very sadly, all acid attack victims would be so incapacitated by such a ferocious attack, usually to their faces, that retaliation isn't on the cards.

How much do you actually know about these vicious attacks?

The victims are literally screaming in agony and have to go to find running water, which might not even be possible or close by.
They are literally melting after the attack.

No chance or mental capacity to "splash the attacker back".

This is why these attacks are so grave, sadistic, grievous and cruel and the perpetrators should never be let out of prison again.

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17 Sep 2023, 12:41 am

I’m not an acid attack expert. I can’t even think of a single case here.

Closest comparable that actually happens quite frequently in various parts of “bad,” parts of town or during home invasions or grow rips etc is people getting bear sprayed. For the most part it’s temporary vs causing lifelong effects like acid.

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17 Sep 2023, 1:25 am

goldfish21 wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_attack

Sometimes they involve caustic substances, rather than acids, but same s**t in terms of consequences.

Generally speaking the person isn't in a state to start wrestling with the attacker, but also the substance is reactive, unlike bear spray so it's constantly eating into the victim's tissue. You'd need to have significant presence of mind to attempt smearing it, but also neutralizing it is a much bigger priority to limit the damage. Bear spray will just hurt, it won't eat your tissue away.

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17 Sep 2023, 1:36 am

I read about it happening to a teenaged girl by a mean girl.

https://youtu.be/sbdAJ9QOkgM?feature=shared

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17 Sep 2023, 1:49 am

!	magz wrote:
	OP, what level of tangents are you comfortable with? Is it okay to discuss acid attacks in general here or should the topic be split?

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17 Sep 2023, 1:51 am

Cigalle33 wrote:

Yeah, okay, but the nature of planning, orchestrating an acid attack, e.g. buying the acid and having the intent to cause such grievous injuries, is highly sinister and grave in nature.
It's not in any range of normal behaviour.
It's the behaviour of an extremely dangerous individual.

I agree. It's an act that has to be planned. This is not a spontaneous "crime of passion."

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17 Sep 2023, 2:18 am

Mona Pereth wrote:

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I agree. It's an act that has to be planned. This is not a spontaneous "crime of passion."

Exactly

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17 Sep 2023, 11:39 am

Here I'll save some time:

It was targeted, not a random attack. Got the target wrong due to an address mistake or something, but the intention of the planning was for a specific target. That's why he's not considered a risk to the general public as someone who attacked people at random might be.

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