Calling all undamaged females... Anyone?
I've considered this notion at length, and I find that I must call non sequitur, pending further elaboration.
I'd venture to guess that's the type of thing Sedaka's talking about.
Gamester, if she's smart, she won't take you back.
Icarus, I've actually been in the field for quite a while.
...sadly, there are many women whom have suffered some form of injustice upon themselves, whether it be rape, abuse, abortion, etc...
The first thing you should keep in mind is where you meet these women.
Usually:
-Bars
-Clubs
-Internet
...are places where a majority of women like this are found.
The best type of girl you can find is a family-oriented girl; a beautiful woman raised in a tight-knit, solid, loving family.
Of course, the numbers game is a brutal one, especially if you have AS.
Try meeting women at Dance lessons, yoga classes, the gym, Art galleries, and anywhere else women get together.
Of course, if the case is that they TELL you this when you try to escalate things, then there might be a rut you're stuck in.
If they tell you that you remind them of a past fling, chances are you:
A)Brought up Mr. Ex-BF in a conversation
B)Came on too strong, too early
C)The girl's neurotic.
In most cases, it's never C, so it's either A or B.
If it's A, switch the convo flow to something more positive, and something about her (What's your dreams, if you could work at your dream job, what would it be, etc..., and take it from there)
If it's B, make sure she's comfortable with you, and attracted. Watch her body language. (Actions speak louder than words)
You seem like a good guy Icarus, and it would be a shame if you cant find Ms.Right. Believe me, women out there are looking for Mr.Right as well. Problem is, out of 100 guys (you included), 90 guys do the same routine of kissing her ass, putting her on the pedestal, and buying her junk to impress her. Those 90 guys automatically lose. The other 10 are, unfortunately, for the most part, the as*holes who go up to women, act like a total jerk, and still take her home and have sex with her. (If any of you want to know why that is, feel free to IM me. I see these things happen everyday). Are you the 10%, the 90%, or the rare 0.01% who has the best from both sides, and knows that through perserverence, everyting is possible.
...but that's likely not the case. Point is Icarus, keep going at it. Finding women is a vicious numbers game, and only the persistent and headstrong will make it.
Wish you luck dude.
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It isn't the fact that they were abuse, it is how the handle it and move on.
I've been abused, cheated on. blah blah blah.
And?
That was him, not you (or the present guy).
What you should maybe look for is a woman who although has had issues in her past, has learn to overcome them. That is a strong woman, that is a woman who, no matter what you throw at her, can handle it.
Undamaged women, will be damaged one day. And why would anyone want a woman who hasn't lived life?
Thats exactly what I was going to say. I mean, I have 'baggage', I think all my female friends do. We have jobs and lives and interests and we're getting on with it. You need a woman who is 'getting on with it'.
I believe it is admirable for a woman or a man to have gone through something in life, then pick their lives up and keep going as if there is no tomorrow. A person who has risen above possibly has more knowledge and more respect than a person who has never come across any mountain to climb.
Icarus, if the women are blaming you, then they have not yet risen above, or moved on, or whatever anyone would call it. I think they were just the wrong people.
Was that a joke?
Yes,i noticed that too.
my analysis is that there is at least a 51% chance that he is indeed a smart-arse
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The first thing you should keep in mind is where you meet these women.
Usually:
-Bars
-Clubs
-Internet
...are places where a majority of women like this are found. ...
It's a pity that real life doesn't actually work like this! Otherwise it would be so much easier for all of us....
" Young Women! Avoid Abuse and Injustice!
- Arrange, if possible, to be born to a tight-knit, solid, loving family. Be beautiful, if you can.
- Congregate solely with women at female-oriented activities. Suitable men will know to look for you there.
- Avoid bars, clubs, and the Internet, lest you be mistaken for some pitiable piece of damaged goods. "
- Arrange, if possible, to be born to a tight-knit, solid, loving family. Be beautiful, if you can.
- Congregate solely with women at female-oriented activities. Suitable men will know to look for you there.
- Avoid bars, clubs, and the Internet, lest you be mistaken for some pitiable piece of damaged goods. "
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The first thing you should keep in mind is where you meet these women.
Usually:
-Bars
-Clubs
-Internet
...are places where a majority of women like this are found. ...
It's a pity that real life doesn't actually work like this! Otherwise it would be so much easier for all of us....
" Young Women! Avoid Abuse and Injustice!
- Arrange, if possible, to be born to a tight-knit, solid, loving family. Be beautiful, if you can.
- Congregate solely with women at female-oriented activities. Suitable men will know to look for you there.
- Avoid bars, clubs, and the Internet, lest you be mistaken for some pitiable piece of damaged goods. "
That also comes with the tag: you better be true to yourself. If you aren't into yoga and you go to a yoga class, you won't be in your proper environment and it will show. If you go to artsy places just to meet artsy people if your intelligent but not artsy yourself in a political and wrote knowledge sort of way, it won't work there either. Pretty much anytime you try on something your not just to expand your chances, you'll be at your weakest and the intentions that you came in with will be evident soon enough - thus making you look pitiful, which is probably something you don't deserve.
This also comes with a tag:
When we become experts we ridicule the bosses
i am 'into' yoga and am better than the teachers
so my chances in the classes
well, pitiful rhymes with
haven't gone in a while
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To be honest, I think some girls are naive to date such pricks in the world.
I could treat a women right.
I'm pro-active (sometimes), and I do what I am told, with no bother.
I would question some tasks at times but only out of sheer curiousity.
Question is, no-one fancies me or likes me more than friend which with this in my mind, I just couldn't care.
I'll just carry on living life the way it should be, and there's nothing more to it.
Who needs a girl when you got porn? lmao! - Joking.
I have a theory that might explain that, follow me well:
Teen/young adult girls pick alpha males or masculine males at least (since they are not mature enough and so their feelings are more based on instincts than reason) ---> Alpha/masculine males have higher level of testosterone than other males ---> testosterone increases aggressiveness ....and horniness---> alphas are more prone to be violent toward females than other males and tend more to have polygamous relations (=to cheat) ---> so young females are very prone to be victim of such violence/abuse/cheating ---> women are very prone to be 'damaged' specially during their teenage or young adulthood ---> women who are too damaged might start to seek for beta/omega males = having less testosterone= naturally less violent (not necessary true since culture and religion may make them violent anyways but I am talking here from natural perspective) , but many other women might keep seeking for alphas.
That's why this problem is almost unavoidable, it just happens and will keep happening..
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kinda weird...
but i think i tend to gravitate towards more aggressive guys (not necessarily in an abusive way) cause they're more likely to step up and tell me when i overstep something or when im doing something that bothers them... cause i often do this even without meaning to... "nicer" guys have often told me they feel like they're walking on eggshells and just kinda suppress things for so long... it takes a while before i even realize ive done something to offend them and i often wind up feeling really bad that they can't even just tell me... cause i have qualms in doing so... and just over random things... hard to explain. it's probably a mixture cause i never knew about AS while dating and cause i have always had an embedded sense of inappropriateness (and i just mean that lifelong sense of never seeming to be quite right on target about SO MANY things) anyway that makes it harder to draw the line for when a guy IS being an as*hole versus it really being me that is doing something wrong. both situations can be bad in relationships.... just need to find a balance that works.
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