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13 Aug 2008, 5:07 pm

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And, ManErg - as far as challenging what I wrote, everything in there is something that I have had personal experience with


The gist of this thread has been people dissing Neant because they say he has no right to extrapolate from his personal experience to universal rules. In so, then neither have you.


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13 Aug 2008, 5:07 pm

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I think calling it a "conspiracy" is over the top... However, if a girl rejects you, there's the possibility that she'll tell all of her friends to avoid you... "Stay away from that guy, he's creepy!" As a result, your chances will be even further limited. So I guess you really have to be careful about who you approach first.

More like a "Community" or a "Network."

That's why guys should not date women who live within 5 to 10 miles of each other, if possible; and certainly none who live within the same distance of the guy's home, either.



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13 Aug 2008, 5:23 pm

Let 'em know - 'you're the sort of woman I w*k off to' - guaranteed success!

Uh really tho - be 'free' be open be lightweight be possible.......



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13 Aug 2008, 5:25 pm

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Let 'em know - 'you're the sort of woman I w*k off to' - guaranteed success!

I'll bet that did wonders for you, didn't it? :roll:



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13 Aug 2008, 5:26 pm

Yup.



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13 Aug 2008, 5:30 pm

Taking a good look over this thread its almost comedic, all the usual suspects saying the usual things. Couldn't have a more spitting image stereotype of WP if you wanted it :roll:.



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13 Aug 2008, 5:33 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Taking a good look over this thread its almost comedic, all the usual suspects saying the usual things. Couldn't have a more spitting image stereotype of WP if you wanted it :roll:.

As long as Aspie guys have these problems, we're going to keep seeing crap like this.



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13 Aug 2008, 5:51 pm

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just about every one of your points could be challenged if you use facts and research that hasn't been bodged by man-hating feminists


yes, you quite clearly did say it.



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13 Aug 2008, 6:01 pm

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don't be put off by the Fox url, this link refers to FBI figures that suggest false rape accusations to be at around 20%.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,194032,00.html


1)that is an opinion page.
2)the 20% figure is cases where the wrong perpetrator was convicted - not cases where a woman said that she had been raped and hadn't been.

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If you've studied it objectively, you'll be well aware that while females do suffer much worse injuries, incidence of abuse are split roughly 50/50 between male and female?


Yes, I am aware of that; I am also aware that, because of physical differences, a man is much more able than a woman to defend himself from aggression from his opposite-sex partner than a woman is, and (as you said) a man is capable of causing much more damage to his partner.

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What about the fact that the largest group of innocent victims of violence at any age is men? Do you not care about them?

...victims of crimes whose perpetrators are almost entirely other males. Yes, men hurt and kill each other quite a lot, and yes, it's terrible. How does that contradict my case?

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Solving the worlds problems starts with finding out the facts and the truth. Ignoring the reality of false rape accusations and domestic violence doesn't help the real victims one bit. Unfortunately research has proven that research can prove anything :wink:


sure.



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13 Aug 2008, 6:02 pm

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The gist of this thread has been people dissing Neant because they say he has no right to extrapolate from his personal experience to universal rules. In so, then neither have you.


granted - but neither have you the right to claim that the things I indicated are all made up by "man-hating feminists."



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13 Aug 2008, 6:19 pm

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Yes, I am aware of that; I am also aware that, because of physical differences, a man is much more able than a woman to defend himself from aggression from his opposite-sex partner than a woman is, and (as you said) a man is capable of causing much more damage to his partner.

Are you sure about that?

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This is why men should respect women :P


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14 Aug 2008, 4:26 am

LKL wrote:
ManErg wrote:
just about every one of your points could be challenged if you use facts and research that hasn't been bodged by man-hating feminists


yes, you quite clearly did say it.


Oops... :oops: Thanks for your polite reminder!

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granted - but neither have you the right to claim that the things I indicated are all made up by "man-hating feminists."


No, I don't think for 1 second they're not true. Just the instances are exagerrated, say from the reality of a tiny percentage of men being abusers to the "all men are rapists" line, which helps no one, least of all the victims. Of course some feminist will be able to produce some sophistry that proves that all men really are rapists. Which is as crazy as the post that started this topic.


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14 Aug 2008, 2:48 pm

I've never met a feminist who believed or claimed that 'all men are rapists,' and I run with quite a few of them. What feminists do claim is that rape is not taken seriously enough when it happens, and that women are too often blamed for their own victimization.

Given that at least one major contender for the position of President of the U.S. still thinks it's ok to tell jokes about women being raped, and that female soldiers who are raped and murdered are still labeled as 'suicides' by the army (despite having their teeth knocked out and their bodies set on fire), I think it's hard to claim that rape is taken seriously by the ruling hegemony.



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15 Aug 2008, 1:52 am

just so y'all know I haven't lost my "oh no! someone's wrong on the internet!" disease, I've actually given up on this thread. .



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15 Aug 2008, 1:29 pm

Ok, to reply to the original poster.

NeantHumain, it sounds as if you ran into a bish. Whether she's truly wacky or just playing at sounding that way to amuse herself doesn't matter. In my opinion your problem can be solved with four words:

"I have to go".

The next time someone - including a female you had designs on a moment before - begins ranting in some unintelligible way, break out those four words. It will do wonders.

I do not feel from reading your posts in this thread as if there was a concerted effort to target you. I think she was just an odd bish and you crossed paths. The difference between yourself and the next person was just that you probably listened longer. Who cares why she was messing with you - she couldn't do it if you simply left or swam away. Game over. Hope that helps.

To Ken.

Please, don't do that. I'd like to say that everyone has difficulty with romance and even finding good close friends. But hardly anyone stays alone all their life. You will find someone some day. Til then it's perfectly possible to be happy on your own. So many things to do and see in this world and who knows what the next week will bring - I've had depression but have always been glad in the end that I stuck around to see what came next. Life's an adventure and sometimes surreal but it is worth it.

Also problems have a way of diminishing the further down the road you travel from them - as the Buddhists like to say, 'this too shall pass'. But above all know that it isn't you, everyone has trouble connecting in some way shape or form.



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15 Aug 2008, 7:02 pm

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... problems have a way of diminishing the further down the road you travel from them - as the Buddhists like to say, 'this too shall pass'...

Hmm...

"How is this event, issue, or person from the past so important as to control or influence my life so much today?"

... that is definately something to ponder...