Dating/Marrying People from a foreign culture Your thoughts?

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15 Oct 2008, 11:36 pm

I dated an Ecuadorian guy for 6 years..He probably woulda ditched me within the first couple of weeks (on the basis of my extreme immaturity, and emotional instability..and a lack of chemistry between us)....had there not been something sorta drilled into him through his kinda sorta hard-core Catholic upbringing that instilled in him the sorta obligation to stay with me no matter what....but I guess it could have also had to do with the fact that I was horribly underaged when we started dating and um...maybe he felt stuck with me....and also we were in a band together...which is how we got together in the first place...

I practicly lived at his house with his mom and grandmother who did not speak english...but he himself was very "Americanized".....His mom felt sorry for me because in her mind I had been raised without any culture or morals or..something....and that is the only reason she let me stick around...and felt obliged to take me under her wing even though she would wail on him for keeping a teenaged whore in the house...

I participated in thier large family gatherings...the language barrier was a good excuse for my wall-floweryness... :wink:



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18 Oct 2008, 8:18 pm

Is there a European population in the anywhere in the Northeastern US? And, no, I am not asking for anything serious. Just wondering.



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25 Apr 2009, 8:06 pm

Going out with someone from another culture,doesn't matter at all,as long as both partners love another and share things in common.I'm Mexican,and I would love to have a girlfriend from Colombia or Argentina.By the way,Mexican,Colombian,and Argentine women are the prettiest from Latin America!



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25 Apr 2009, 9:19 pm

Not a problem as long as she pass all my other criterias - and we can understand eachother.


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01 May 2009, 9:25 pm

I'm a half-asian aspie and a girl. You would think that would be an awesome combination but it is an absolute nightmare for me.

Being approached and stalked by guys with their asian fetishes...having guys attracted to you cause you're some cute asian. It's insane. It's horrifying.

And of course they turned away once my true personality kicks in...so hypocritically typical of them.

My dad's side of the family are asian-fetish people. Aside from my dad marrying a Korean, he has a brother who married a Vietnamese woman earlier this year. I worry about what they were thinking when they married their wives. Especially my dad. My parents have a very loveless marriage. My mom yells at my dad at least twice a week and they dont even sleep in the same room.

I wouldn't want some guy to be interested in me on account of being asian. Some of those people are just crazy. Good to know that most guys are becoming more PC about being attracted to other races and such but I find it shallow when they're attracted to me cause I'm part asian. Oh well.



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02 May 2009, 12:31 am

raisedbyignorance wrote:
I'm a half-asian aspie and a girl. You would think that would be an awesome combination but it is an absolute nightmare for me.

Being approached and stalked by guys with their asian fetishes...having guys attracted to you cause you're some cute asian. It's insane. It's horrifying.

And of course they turned away once my true personality kicks in...so hypocritically typical of them.

My dad's side of the family are asian-fetish people. Aside from my dad marrying a Korean, he has a brother who married a Vietnamese woman earlier this year. I worry about what they were thinking when they married their wives. Especially my dad. My parents have a very loveless marriage. My mom yells at my dad at least twice a week and they dont even sleep in the same room.

I wouldn't want some guy to be interested in me on account of being asian. Some of those people are just crazy. Good to know that most guys are becoming more PC about being attracted to other races and such but I find it shallow when they're attracted to me cause I'm part asian. Oh well.


Those are bummy ass NT guys. I'm a cute Black guy but I never get approached by women and their Black Guy fetishes. and God knows how many women have that!! !! How do you know these men have asian ferishes? do you assume just because you are asian that they approach you like this?
If I could have a day to be approached by women it would be great. but it never happens and it makes me more mad that I am just as good looking as the cute asian girl. but I'm a guy and women don't approach guys. especially weird aspie ones.

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It really offends me when women hate being approached by men.

Like I have always been told "There would be a problem if they weren't looking"



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02 May 2009, 12:39 am

I remember in 8th grade I was really shy...even worst then now. There would be these girls trying to talk to me. They were cute but i was too shy to say anything. anyways a group of them figured out where I lived and they came over my house and rang my doorbell and asked me if I wanted to go with them to the park.

If i were an aspie girl i would be like this in my head: "EWWWW no they must have some black guy fetish so weird"

but instead I went. i was unconfortable about the fact that I was shy.....eventually I ended up with a girlfriend that night.
But just think if there was this mutual kind of approach between all sexes. We wouldnt have complaining aspie guys because they would know if a girl were interested or now without having to always make every move.

Please girls dont complain

like the saying goes "There would be a problem if they weren't looking at you" :) whether they have a fetish or not. Enjoy it while it lasts



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02 May 2009, 10:19 am

Wow, jb... just wow. There is the distinct impression from your last posts that you know better than those who having the experience, and that your desires and preferences have precedence over theirs. Apologies that one's personal preference "offends" you... *shakes head* But it isn't up to you, period, and asking people not to complain about what makes them uncomfortable seems rather absurd. From your writing, you do not seem to lack self-confidence - perhaps putting that into work for you through taking a more active, non-aggressive approach to dating would be a better next step for you.


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02 May 2009, 10:39 am

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Wow, jb... just wow. There is the distinct impression from your last posts that you know better than those who having the experience, and that your desires and preferences have precedence over theirs. Apologies that one's personal preference "offends" you... *shakes head* But it isn't up to you, period, and asking people not to complain about what makes them uncomfortable seems rather absurd. From your writing, you do not seem to lack self-confidence - perhaps putting that into work for you through taking a more active, non-aggressive approach to dating would be a better next step for you.


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well the reason I said what i said about the offending thing is because I believe that pretty women can find good men. They just expect guys to approach them all the time. If a girl doesnt want to go with the bad guys that approach then then she should approach men to see whether they are good for her or not. and the best guys may be the ones who are too shy to even approach her.
I think women put self confidence into men. I learned this at church. If a guy is trying to start a business and his wife tells him he's a loser, the he's going to believe that and give up. But if she says "Oh honey that's the best idea in the world no one else can do it but you, you're so great." the husband is going to become more confident in what he's doing

the saying is right "behind every good man there is a good woman." which is true. If Barack Obama's wife told him that no one was going to vote for him because he's black, he would've believed her and never became president. but she campaigned for him and stood by him. and look at where is he is now.

I think women look for too much in a man that he needs to learn by her teaching him. If a girl walked up to a cute shy guy saying "wow you are all this and that" he would start believing it...but instead they choose the egotistic jerk who treats her bad and by the time she's in her mid thirties she's saying "there's no more good men".......

when many girls call guys like aspies losers then we begin to believe it.....and all of the stupid stuff like "he needs to be confident"...if you teach him some way somehow....then he will.

thats my view



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02 May 2009, 11:28 am

Regardless, it isn't up to you to decide how another person acts. As for the suggestion of self-confidence, I take a bit of issue with being reliant on an external source. More to the point, if someone is starting a business and their partner is calling them a loser - why in the hell are they with that person in the first place? The Obama comparison just makes no sense to me, to be honest. What is it that you think women are looking for, jb? You're not going to attract everyone, and you're not going to necessarily attract the people you are attracted to - this is part of life, I'm afraid. What you do with it is up to you.


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02 May 2009, 11:44 am

makuranososhi wrote:
Regardless, it isn't up to you to decide how another person acts. As for the suggestion of self-confidence, I take a bit of issue with being reliant on an external source. More to the point, if someone is starting a business and their partner is calling them a loser - why in the hell are they with that person in the first place? The Obama comparison just makes no sense to me, to be honest. What is it that you think women are looking for, jb? You're not going to attract everyone, and you're not going to necessarily attract the people you are attracted to - this is part of life, I'm afraid. What you do with it is up to you.


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honest question???? do you dislike me?



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02 May 2009, 12:30 pm

jbinion wrote:
makuranososhi wrote:
Regardless, it isn't up to you to decide how another person acts. As for the suggestion of self-confidence, I take a bit of issue with being reliant on an external source. More to the point, if someone is starting a business and their partner is calling them a loser - why in the hell are they with that person in the first place? The Obama comparison just makes no sense to me, to be honest. What is it that you think women are looking for, jb? You're not going to attract everyone, and you're not going to necessarily attract the people you are attracted to - this is part of life, I'm afraid. What you do with it is up to you.


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honest question???? do you dislike me?


Dislike you? No, not in the least - but I will challenge you. Your posts act upon the presumption that relationships are supposed to work for your personal benefit, that others should act in a manner you see appropriate, and denigrates women and various cultural groups... where opportunity permits, I am going to question those assertions. I think you have a lot of ideas, but the perspective is incredibly biased.


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02 May 2009, 12:40 pm

go read my latest post :)



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02 May 2009, 3:54 pm

Interesting how some people think that they will be more accepted by a woman of a different nationality or race just because they have aspergers. While in theory I think it's true to a certain degree, I just don't think it would be that different than in the west. Granted, some women are raised to believe that they are their man's property and that the men are there to take care of them as they don't have the choice to be independent abroad. But there are various things I could see such as religion. Nothing wrong with pleasing a guy but I would think it to be miserable for the woman if she didn't share the same feelings. But I think in the west, we often do a lot of stereotyping in the way people behave. Some true and some not so true.

For instance, I met a friend of my dad's who married a Japanese woman. He complained how western women were only interested in themselves and that they were not very feminine or doing what comes natural to women. When I met his wife, I thought she was very nice, polite, and pretty. Well ever since he lost his job, his wife is the one that's been working from what I hear. They are also in the process of a divorce, I guess the two haven't been getting along. So sometimes I wonder if people of other cultures present themselves differently when meeting people in the same way we would if we were meeting strangers....just in a different custom. My description of acceptance has many levels and the deepest level in terms of relationships is actually being in that relaionship not basing it off on first impressions. In a relationship with an expansion of time, you get to know the real person better than when you first met them. From my experience, the guy I was with seem very nice and polite. But he turned out to be a completely different person after we were together for a while.

Anyway, I've always had thing for guys of different races and even nationalities....it just makes it seem as if they were exotic. My thinking of ever having a relationship however, is different. I guess it would depend but I wouldn't want to be in one where it's customary for guys to abuse or control their wives....and yes there are cultures like that especially in the east. Not that I believe all guys are like this but I would not want a relationship with a guy who was use to treating women cruelly or coming from an extreme background of religion. So I'd have to have something in common with him but most importantly be respected just as I respect him.

I very much doubt foreign would accept me as far as relationships go. I'm a little outspoken with my opinions when it comes to agreements and disagreements and I'm not very feminine.....in some ways I wish I was but it would be just as frustrating as trying to be social as an NT.

Anyway, there may be more than various reasons of why guys (and women) are attracted to foreign people. I don't think it's just aspie guys since I've seen similar opinions expressed about how a woman from an exotic country would treat them better than their own. Mail order brides are still pretty popular right now. For me, I think it's just fair to say I just find men of different nationalities attractive because it's like the forbidden fruit.


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02 May 2009, 4:22 pm

Just trust me when I say the guys who are constantly hounding me are total rice-chasers. I've picked up on a lot of the signs that indicate when one is obviously just talking me cause I'm asian.

I think it is a problem if someone is looking for a significant other based on ethinicity instead of personality and compatibility. Granted at one time, I was like this but I grew out of it. Plus I am no longer interested in pursuing a romantic relationship. I can't cope when any person approaches me, period.



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02 May 2009, 5:06 pm

MissConstrue wrote:
Interesting how some people think that they will be more accepted by a woman of a different nationality or race just because they have aspergers. While in theory I think it's true to a certain degree, I just don't think it would be that different than in the west. Granted, some women are raised to believe that they are their man's property and that the men are there to take care of them as they don't have the choice to be independent abroad. But there are various things I could see such as religion. Nothing wrong with pleasing a guy but I would think it to be miserable for the woman if she didn't share the same feelings. But I think in the west, we often do a lot of stereotyping in the way people behave. Some true and some not so true.


Anyway, I've always had thing for guys of different races and even nationalities....it just makes it seem as if they were exotic. My thinking of ever having a relationship however, is different. I guess it would depend but I wouldn't want to be in one where it's customary for guys to abuse or control their wives....and yes there are cultures like that especially in the east. Not that I believe all guys are like this but I would not want a relationship with a guy who was use to treating women cruelly or coming from an extreme background of religion. So I'd have to have something in common with him but most importantly be respected just as I respect him.


Anyway, there may be more than various reasons of why guys (and women) are attracted to foreign people. I don't think it's just aspie guys since I've seen similar opinions expressed about how a woman from an exotic country would treat them better than their own. Mail order brides are still pretty popular right now.


I definitely notice these trends in Britain, and I know NTs that say the same - Third World women are highly popular, and it isn't because of looks, as non-white British girls aren't similarly popular. The guy gets a girl that he perceives as more likely to be good homemaker, or as less likely to be bossy, or as more feminine, or as less likel to cheat, or as more submissive, etc. The girl secures residency in the First World. Not every case is going to be this sort of transaction, but let's not pretend that these considerations are not what's driving this trend.
The reverse - Third World men here are far less popular, probably because we're perceived as more likely to be domineering, abusive, or having expectations that she'll do all the housework, etc, so women don't usually want us. I don't see non-white Westerners having much problem, so again it's not an issue of looks (though on sites like plentyoffish in this area you do get a significant number of women stating a preference for white men). You see lots of Third World women dating Brits, but few Third World men dating British girls, perhaps especially British non-whites.


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