*When was the Last Time You Fell in Love?*

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sinsboldly
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16 Apr 2009, 7:42 pm

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Thinking about limerence, or "falling in love" in that way, and wondering whether the reason so many people want it to happen, ( permit/encourage it to happen, however unconsciously ), is precisely because it feels as if have no control over it, as if there is nothing that they can do about it one way or the other; it feels like an act of god, out of their hands.

Of course everything is like that, but perhaps the attraction of "falling in love"/limerence is that a big part of its effect is feeling overcome, compelled by the universe, driven, taken over, ... this is a heady sensation in a culture which believes in free-will, puts pressure on people to be "self-determining", in which we are perceived, and learn to perceive ourselves, as individual/separate autonomous/independent creators of our own destiny, who should be in control of our lives.

Perhaps limerence is a temporary way to "escape"/take a holiday from the pressure of belief in free will which is pushed at one from all directions in modern society, ( it is certainly a mostly/relatively modern phenomenon, rare in ancient times ); a "loss" of free will which is excused by "romance", as in the case of the "crime passional" in France, ( killing a sexual partner out of desperate jealousy was until recently less seriously punished because of the "passion" ).

If society stopped pushing belief in free will limerence might disappear.

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Wild thing
You make my heart sing
You make everything...groovy
Wild thing

Wild thing, I...think I love you
But I wanna know for sure
So come on, and hold me tight
I love you

(Refrain)

Wild thing, I...think you move me
But I wanna know for sure
So come on, and hold me tight
You move me

(Refrain)

Wild thing

Come on, come on, wild thing
Shake it, shake it, wild thing
(repeat)

(it ain't nothin' without the ocarina piping in the background)


but the point is, the wild thing (limerence) is in our limbic brain, all the morality and religion in the world hasn't stamped it out of us. . .

Merle


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17 Apr 2009, 12:22 am

I got stubbornly stuck on my very ASish friend when I first added the "benefits" part...last july..
Still there....



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17 Apr 2009, 10:43 am

sinsboldly wrote:
The wild thing (limerence) is in our limbic brain, all the morality and religion in the world hasn't stamped it out of us.

I don't think it can be an instinctive thing though, because it would make absolutely no sense in evolutionary terms to be overcome by a feeling which is so disabling, weakening, and akin to/identical to fear, about another human, either from the male or female perspective. Sexual excitement, yes, "lust", physical/chemical attraction, etc, yes, but not something which is so exclusive to one person, and debilitating.

I think it is only different from drug or other addiction in that it is profound emotional dependency on a person long after the biologically appropriate one of a baby's on its mother, and I believe that it is a product of society, and not at all something which society, or even religion, ( so long as it is Jesus, or similar, that you feel this about, or your husband if you are a woman perhaps :roll: ), would want to stamp out, because it compensates, like a safety-valve, for the pressure of belief in free will which our current society depends on.

The "wild thing" in the song might be lust, strong chemical attraction, but I doubt that it refers to the feeling of weakness and dependency, of worship/reverence, etc, which limerence apparently involves. There is nothing wild about limerence; it is more like being a wild animal that has suddenly been domesticated/enslaved/tamed and is enjoying the submission.

Although the experience can feel as if have been "freed", ( which is what I meant about it being a "relief" from the unnecessary burden/shackles of belief in free will ), I still don't think that limerence, which has little or nothing to do with sex, sexual excitement, etc, is something limbic, except in so far as it connects up with our fear centres, which are limbic of course. But perhaps that's what you meant, rather than limbic as in sexual desire.

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20 Apr 2009, 3:01 pm

Basic crushes started at age 11, love started at my current age, 15.


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