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26 Jul 2015, 2:27 pm

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It's kind of a numbers game but it's one I've been more optimistic about in recent times. I just use dating sites because I'm not good at asking out girls I've met in meatspace (they always get surprised when they find out I want to be more than friends, that surprise doesn't happen when I date girls from dating sites).

Anyway, think of it like The Drake Equation! Take the population of your city. Divide by two. That's the number of females. Now look up the demographics and find out the number in your age group. For example, in my city there are approximately 70,000 women between the ages of 20 - 29 inclusive.

Then you estimate the number of those likely to be single, and the number of those likely to be on dating sites. Then you start spamming those girls with messages. Remember, it's a numbers game so you have to spam as many girls as possible. If you odds of your pairing up are 1 in 10,000, that means you have to message 10,000 girls. It should take a few years.

So you just have to think of the number of girls who will reply to your message and the number of those who will go out with you and the number of those who will last beyond the first date and the number of those who will be willing to enter into a long term relationship with you and Presto! You have the formula for success!

While you're at it, don't forget to do do things to make yourself more eligable. This will improve your results from the equation by increasing the percentage of girls who will want to be with you. For example. After I lost about 100 lbs, moved into my own place, quit my job and got a higher paying job, and started taking night classes, the interest I got from girls shot up dramatically.

If those things don't work you can get a hobby or work on taking the perfect profile pic. I've heard that it's best to have a profile pic in an interesting outdoor or social setting (though I haven't tried this myself, my profile pic was just a selfie in my living room). Remember girls love guys with a hobby (I should get one myself). Also the more friends you have the better, since a lot of girls are looking to expand their circle of friends (they want your friends as their friends).


my cities whole population is only 60k. theres only 5,557 women age 18-29. theres about 7,000 age 0-17, 17,500 that are 29 and up.

fro men its: 5,509. 7,438. and 15,910

but then you have to include the city connected to us.
connected city
17,985 females age 18-29
18,755 males age 18-29

my city
5,557 females age 18-29
5,509 females age 18-29

23,542 total females 18-29
24, 264 total men 18-29
see there's more men then women. while in older and younger ranges there's more women. suppose the next generation men might have better chances.

just my age thers 8,523 women and 8,788 men. so there's 265 more men then women.

in total over all population theres 4,826 more females in my area then men. but in my age group its more men then women :( which means they can be super picky and get away with. also I don't think that includes people coming here for college which are mostly women.

the gov likes to keep track of its people.

girls love guys with a society ok hobby. so no video games, shooting, firearms, shaving, etc.

instead hobbies like sports, music, art are what girls like.



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26 Jul 2015, 2:49 pm

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RetroGamer87 wrote:
It's kind of a numbers game but it's one I've been more optimistic about in recent times. I just use dating sites because I'm not good at asking out girls I've met in meatspace (they always get surprised when they find out I want to be more than friends, that surprise doesn't happen when I date girls from dating sites).

Anyway, think of it like The Drake Equation! Take the population of your city. Divide by two. That's the number of females. Now look up the demographics and find out the number in your age group. For example, in my city there are approximately 70,000 women between the ages of 20 - 29 inclusive.

Then you estimate the number of those likely to be single, and the number of those likely to be on dating sites. Then you start spamming those girls with messages. Remember, it's a numbers game so you have to spam as many girls as possible. If you odds of your pairing up are 1 in 10,000, that means you have to message 10,000 girls. It should take a few years.

So you just have to think of the number of girls who will reply to your message and the number of those who will go out with you and the number of those who will last beyond the first date and the number of those who will be willing to enter into a long term relationship with you and Presto! You have the formula for success!

While you're at it, don't forget to do do things to make yourself more eligable. This will improve your results from the equation by increasing the percentage of girls who will want to be with you. For example. After I lost about 100 lbs, moved into my own place, quit my job and got a higher paying job, and started taking night classes, the interest I got from girls shot up dramatically.

If those things don't work you can get a hobby or work on taking the perfect profile pic. I've heard that it's best to have a profile pic in an interesting outdoor or social setting (though I haven't tried this myself, my profile pic was just a selfie in my living room). Remember girls love guys with a hobby (I should get one myself). Also the more friends you have the better, since a lot of girls are looking to expand their circle of friends (they want your friends as their friends).


my cities whole population is only 60k. theres only 5,557 women age 18-29. theres about 7,000 age 0-17, 17,500 that are 29 and up.

fro men its: 5,509. 7,438. and 15,910

but then you have to include the city connected to us.
connected city
17,985 females age 18-29
18,755 males age 18-29

my city
5,557 females age 18-29
5,509 females age 18-29

23,542 total females 18-29
24, 264 total men 18-29
see there's more men then women. while in older and younger ranges there's more women. suppose the next generation men might have better chances.

just my age thers 8,523 women and 8,788 men. so there's 265 more men then women.

in total over all population theres 4,826 more females in my area then men. but in my age group its more men then women :( which means they can be super picky and get away with. also I don't think that includes people coming here for college which are mostly women.

the gov likes to keep track of its people.

girls love guys with a society ok hobby. so no video games, shooting, firearms, shaving, etc.

instead hobbies like sports, music, art are what girls like.


Tons of women (including myself) play videogames... it isn't a socially unacceptable hobby. Shooting, so long as you do it at a range or eat what you kill (if you hunt) is not a dealbreaker either.

What is shaving as a hobby? What do you shave besides your own face??



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26 Jul 2015, 3:16 pm

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sly279 wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
It's kind of a numbers game but it's one I've been more optimistic about in recent times. I just use dating sites because I'm not good at asking out girls I've met in meatspace (they always get surprised when they find out I want to be more than friends, that surprise doesn't happen when I date girls from dating sites).

Anyway, think of it like The Drake Equation! Take the population of your city. Divide by two. That's the number of females. Now look up the demographics and find out the number in your age group. For example, in my city there are approximately 70,000 women between the ages of 20 - 29 inclusive.

Then you estimate the number of those likely to be single, and the number of those likely to be on dating sites. Then you start spamming those girls with messages. Remember, it's a numbers game so you have to spam as many girls as possible. If you odds of your pairing up are 1 in 10,000, that means you have to message 10,000 girls. It should take a few years.

So you just have to think of the number of girls who will reply to your message and the number of those who will go out with you and the number of those who will last beyond the first date and the number of those who will be willing to enter into a long term relationship with you and Presto! You have the formula for success!

While you're at it, don't forget to do do things to make yourself more eligable. This will improve your results from the equation by increasing the percentage of girls who will want to be with you. For example. After I lost about 100 lbs, moved into my own place, quit my job and got a higher paying job, and started taking night classes, the interest I got from girls shot up dramatically.

If those things don't work you can get a hobby or work on taking the perfect profile pic. I've heard that it's best to have a profile pic in an interesting outdoor or social setting (though I haven't tried this myself, my profile pic was just a selfie in my living room). Remember girls love guys with a hobby (I should get one myself). Also the more friends you have the better, since a lot of girls are looking to expand their circle of friends (they want your friends as their friends).


my cities whole population is only 60k. theres only 5,557 women age 18-29. theres about 7,000 age 0-17, 17,500 that are 29 and up.

fro men its: 5,509. 7,438. and 15,910

but then you have to include the city connected to us.
connected city
17,985 females age 18-29
18,755 males age 18-29

my city
5,557 females age 18-29
5,509 females age 18-29

23,542 total females 18-29
24, 264 total men 18-29
see there's more men then women. while in older and younger ranges there's more women. suppose the next generation men might have better chances.

just my age thers 8,523 women and 8,788 men. so there's 265 more men then women.

in total over all population theres 4,826 more females in my area then men. but in my age group its more men then women :( which means they can be super picky and get away with. also I don't think that includes people coming here for college which are mostly women.

the gov likes to keep track of its people.

girls love guys with a society ok hobby. so no video games, shooting, firearms, shaving, etc.

instead hobbies like sports, music, art are what girls like.


Tons of women (including myself) play videogames... it isn't a socially unacceptable hobby. Shooting, so long as you do it at a range or eat what you kill (if you hunt) is not a dealbreaker either.

What is shaving as a hobby? What do you shave besides your own face??


To a great many women and men playing videogames past 18 makes a person a loser and childish.
The whole adults who play video games live in there moms basement thing.
Women on dating sites often list playing video games as a no no and that they want a grown man.

Even had kids say it's wrong that people play past 18 and they plan to sell all their gaming stuff. All my friends stopped at 20

It is in a major liberal city they think guns=evil. I don't hunt I don't kill things just shoot targets and clean them

It becomes a hobbie for many who wet shave. Buying tons of different scented and brand soaps, buying tons of brushes and razors. Made shaving fun and relaxing. There's always some new soap or soap maker popping up . They even have shaver conventions lol



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26 Jul 2015, 3:18 pm

Keep in mine they don't consider phone games to be video games
Candy crush is ok ps4/cb one/pc games are childish to the majority.



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26 Jul 2015, 4:22 pm

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Now if I instead use the eye-contact "trick", and I can do that naturally and effortlessly, then I can detect potential partners at any everyday event or hobby. Some of these will likely "click" and lead to longer term flirting, and most of these are potential long-term relationships if you go about it in a reasonable way.
This sounds like an interesting technique. Can you please tell us what the eye-contact trick is?


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26 Jul 2015, 4:56 pm

my new hobby as of lately has been collecting old comic books



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26 Jul 2015, 5:49 pm

If it's not too late to do something, just wait till it is :skull:


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27 Jul 2015, 3:05 am

I think the main thing with video games is that they tend to take up a lot of time. If you play video games but your partner doesn't, that for some people is upwards of a couple of hours per day that you are spending on this hobby that you don't share, and therefore missing out on time together.

I'm not sure that many women would be too fussed about their partner playing video games once or twice a week for an hour or so, like is fairly standard for other activities like sports. But there is a common perception that if video gaming is a hobby of yours, you probably spend a LOT of time doing it. That's the main problem with it.



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27 Jul 2015, 4:31 pm

sly279 wrote:
cupidspider wrote:
sly279 wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
It's kind of a numbers game but it's one I've been more optimistic about in recent times. I just use dating sites because I'm not good at asking out girls I've met in meatspace (they always get surprised when they find out I want to be more than friends, that surprise doesn't happen when I date girls from dating sites).

Anyway, think of it like The Drake Equation! Take the population of your city. Divide by two. That's the number of females. Now look up the demographics and find out the number in your age group. For example, in my city there are approximately 70,000 women between the ages of 20 - 29 inclusive.

Then you estimate the number of those likely to be single, and the number of those likely to be on dating sites. Then you start spamming those girls with messages. Remember, it's a numbers game so you have to spam as many girls as possible. If you odds of your pairing up are 1 in 10,000, that means you have to message 10,000 girls. It should take a few years.

So you just have to think of the number of girls who will reply to your message and the number of those who will go out with you and the number of those who will last beyond the first date and the number of those who will be willing to enter into a long term relationship with you and Presto! You have the formula for success!

While you're at it, don't forget to do do things to make yourself more eligable. This will improve your results from the equation by increasing the percentage of girls who will want to be with you. For example. After I lost about 100 lbs, moved into my own place, quit my job and got a higher paying job, and started taking night classes, the interest I got from girls shot up dramatically.

If those things don't work you can get a hobby or work on taking the perfect profile pic. I've heard that it's best to have a profile pic in an interesting outdoor or social setting (though I haven't tried this myself, my profile pic was just a selfie in my living room). Remember girls love guys with a hobby (I should get one myself). Also the more friends you have the better, since a lot of girls are looking to expand their circle of friends (they want your friends as their friends).


my cities whole population is only 60k. theres only 5,557 women age 18-29. theres about 7,000 age 0-17, 17,500 that are 29 and up.

fro men its: 5,509. 7,438. and 15,910

but then you have to include the city connected to us.
connected city
17,985 females age 18-29
18,755 males age 18-29

my city
5,557 females age 18-29
5,509 females age 18-29

23,542 total females 18-29
24, 264 total men 18-29
see there's more men then women. while in older and younger ranges there's more women. suppose the next generation men might have better chances.

just my age thers 8,523 women and 8,788 men. so there's 265 more men then women.

in total over all population theres 4,826 more females in my area then men. but in my age group its more men then women :( which means they can be super picky and get away with. also I don't think that includes people coming here for college which are mostly women.

the gov likes to keep track of its people.

girls love guys with a society ok hobby. so no video games, shooting, firearms, shaving, etc.

instead hobbies like sports, music, art are what girls like.


Tons of women (including myself) play videogames... it isn't a socially unacceptable hobby. Shooting, so long as you do it at a range or eat what you kill (if you hunt) is not a dealbreaker either.

What is shaving as a hobby? What do you shave besides your own face??


To a great many women and men playing videogames past 18 makes a person a loser and childish.
The whole adults who play video games live in there moms basement thing.
Women on dating sites often list playing video games as a no no and that they want a grown man.

Even had kids say it's wrong that people play past 18 and they plan to sell all their gaming stuff. All my friends stopped at 20

It is in a major liberal city they think guns=evil. I don't hunt I don't kill things just shoot targets and clean them

It becomes a hobbie for many who wet shave. Buying tons of different scented and brand soaps, buying tons of brushes and razors. Made shaving fun and relaxing. There's always some new soap or soap maker popping up . They even have shaver conventions lol


I live in a big liberal city and don't consider target shooting a dealbreaker of a hobby but whatevs, don't mention it in your profile or to women when you chat them up. Ditto the wet shaving. I know few girls who don't occasionally play videogames and the nice people at the Conference Board, market research at game makers and the business section of any major paper are all under the impression that women buy/play a good 50% of computer games, so, clearly, girls who game exist.

Your meticulous stats don't take into account the portion of the population that is gay or lesbian, ie if you live in the Castro, those same stats would indicate there are 4 single women for every straight single guy, nor that people 25+ often date folks much older than them.



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28 Jul 2015, 9:49 am

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You just have to shrug off external circumstances like rejection, and move on.


Can't do that. At least not with girls I have a romantic interest in.


If you see a girl, and fall in love with her without knowing anything about her then when you ask and she isn't attracted to you, then you feel rejected.

You can see a girl you think you may like, then approach her and make conversation and see if there is a connection. If not, then you haven't invested too much and you can move on. NTs will talk to every girl of their age who they find attractive. It is a numbers game. You don't invest emotions until you find fruit.


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28 Jul 2015, 1:55 pm

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If you see a girl, and fall in love with her without knowing anything about her then when you ask and she isn't attracted to you, then you feel rejected.


I generally do not fall in love with girls unless they do some special things. When I do, I usually know absolutely nothing about them. Never really been rejected by somebody I had a crush on.

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You can see a girl you think you may like, then approach her and make conversation and see if there is a connection.


No, I can't. I cannot approach girls I'm interested in. No way. Doesn't work. It always ends up as a flirting-game if they are compatible and interest is mutual.

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If not, then you haven't invested too much and you can move on.


Right, I didn't invest anything because I didn't approach. :mrgreen:

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NTs will talk to every girl of their age who they find attractive. It is a numbers game. You don't invest emotions until you find fruit.


That's NTs, not me. It might be a numbers game for them, but it is not for me. If I talk to a girl I'm interested in, it basically means I'm ready for a relationship. The talking-stage comes last.



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I think the main thing with video games is that they tend to take up a lot of time. If you play video games but your partner doesn't, that for some people is upwards of a couple of hours per day that you are spending on this hobby that you don't share, and therefore missing out on time together.

I'm not sure that many women would be too fussed about their partner playing video games once or twice a week for an hour or so, like is fairly standard for other activities like sports. But there is a common perception that if video gaming is a hobby of yours, you probably spend a LOT of time doing it. That's the main problem with it.


o.o. so like any other hobby. shooting can take hours, sports hours, fan of sports hours watching sports.

women spend hours on makeup stuff, sewing, croceting. etc. lots of hobbies mean spending tons of times doing them. I play video games for hours and sometimes almost 8 hours but I still have plenty of time to watch tv for hours, spend hours on wp, spend hours on facebook and few hours on browser games along wtih hours out running arends. so if i dropped a bunch of those i'd still have time. really for many its only few times a year with the 8 hours. like fallout you play it non stop alot but then you beat it and its back to months or years til the next one.

for me until fallout and metal gear come out in step/november its bf4 for 2 hours a night 3 nights a week for clan practis, sometimes having a match on another day, and playing minecraft with others for hours because I have nothing else to do. if i had a gf I'd likely not play as much, though spenidng 24/7 with her isn't good for me either. videogames is an escape from the stress of everyday life(work,relationship, family) for many. those who do videogames are often not also into other hobbies like sports. so think of it like the guy who comes home drinks beer and watching sports for 5 hours every night.we instead play games. its my only interest besides shaving (takes 30 minutes) that I can do an a regular basis. shooting and hikes are more spread out. some might go every week but lots go once a month or every few months.

i just wish women would give guys chance without just assuming videogames, means they childish and live in their parents basment.



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28 Jul 2015, 5:49 pm

Just because you have whatever hobbies you want doesn't mean you need to tolerate them in a prospective partner, especially if you can afford to be really picky.


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I live in a big liberal city and don't consider target shooting a dealbreaker of a hobby but whatevs, don't mention it in your profile or to women when you chat them up. Ditto the wet shaving. I know few girls who don't occasionally play videogames and the nice people at the Conference Board, market research at game makers and the business section of any major paper are all under the impression that women buy/play a good 50% of computer games, so, clearly, girls who game exist.

Your meticulous stats don't take into account the portion of the population that is gay or lesbian, ie if you live in the Castro, those same stats would indicate there are 4 single women for every straight single guy, nor that people 25+ often date folks much older than them.



i don't either but many liberal women would free out and call me a child murder. the anties view even touching a gun to be murder and evil. every gun owner is just a mass shooter in the waiting etc.

but whats the point I'd rather be turned down now then after spending hundreds of dollars dating them and getting attached. I like guns, wet shaving and video games. its who I am I'm getting sick of having to hid it :cry:

yeah they exist but they hid it. they don't talk on game and they don't seem to tell others. given half gamers are women then why is it only so very very very few talk about it? I think being a gamer is even worse social repercussions then it does for men.

those states are from the government not me. its likely for every gay woman theres a gay guy so it balances out.
whats castro?



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Just because you have whatever hobbies you want doesn't mean you need to tolerate them in a prospective partner, especially if you can afford to be really picky.


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