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25 Jul 2022, 11:55 am

I don’t think sex is that important. It’s just one aspect of a relationship, and it is subject to change.

I wouldn’t want to be with someone who was an a** regarding sex and not find that out until after marriage, though.



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25 Jul 2022, 12:04 pm

"Love gets you through times of no sex better than sex gets you through times of no love." -- my 9th grade biology teacher.

Personal experience has taught me this is generally true.



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25 Jul 2022, 12:10 pm

Fnord wrote:
"Love gets you through times of no sex better than sex gets you through times of no love." -- my 9th grade biology teacher.

Personal experience has taught me this is generally true.


Yep, that’s a good way of putting it.



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25 Jul 2022, 1:01 pm

Twilightprincess wrote:
Fnord wrote:
"Love gets you through times of no sex better than sex gets you through times of no love." -- my 9th grade biology teacher.  Personal experience has taught me this is generally true.
Yep, that’s a good way of putting it.
She was very wise.



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25 Jul 2022, 6:13 pm

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ironpony wrote:
Are some people hypocritical when it comes to not wanting to have sex with virgins as a lot of people are hot for the idea of being treated by someone with sexual experience, but at the same time, they don't want to return the favor for anyone inexperienced.


Depends on age, why someone is a virgin and the intention of the virgin.

If you're 20 and religious or have been concentrating of studies or career then that's fair enough.

If you're 30, want kids but still haven't seen a penis or vagina and refused when offered after dating for a few months, then that's an all together different kettle of fish. Especially if they're not religious or have any legitimate reason.

Sometimes virginity is easy to understand and has a reasonable explanation. Other times the virgin themselves are just stubborn or unkempt.

Once people get older being a virgin becomes a bit of a problem depending on the circumstances. Like the example above, I would want an explanation as to why someone who wanted kids hasn't and still refuses to see a vagina or penis at 30 when they're already at the average age where people have their first child. Being that straight laced and innocent is off-putting to partners and harmful to the virgin.

Many people don't want to deal with the baggage of older virgins as they're often set in their ways and the people having to deal with them are getting older themselves.

I'd dare say most older non-religious male virgins are very interested in losing their virginity, but lack opportunities.



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25 Jul 2022, 6:17 pm

The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
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ironpony wrote:
Are some people hypocritical when it comes to not wanting to have sex with virgins as a lot of people are hot for the idea of being treated by someone with sexual experience, but at the same time, they don't want to return the favor for anyone inexperienced.


Depends on age, why someone is a virgin and the intention of the virgin.

If you're 20 and religious or have been concentrating of studies or career then that's fair enough.

If you're 30, want kids but still haven't seen a penis or vagina and refused when offered after dating for a few months, then that's an all together different kettle of fish. Especially if they're not religious or have any legitimate reason.

Sometimes virginity is easy to understand and has a reasonable explanation. Other times the virgin themselves are just stubborn or unkempt.

Once people get older being a virgin becomes a bit of a problem depending on the circumstances. Like the example above, I would want an explanation as to why someone who wanted kids hasn't and still refuses to see a vagina or penis at 30 when they're already at the average age where people have their first child. Being that straight laced and innocent is off-putting to partners and harmful to the virgin.

Many people don't want to deal with the baggage of older virgins as they're often set in their ways and the people having to deal with them are getting older themselves.

I'd dare say most older non-religious male virgins are very interested in losing their virginity, but lack opportunities.



Many women probably feel the same way. This isn’t a gendered thing.

There are women out there who’ve never found a partner.



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25 Jul 2022, 6:24 pm

Fnord wrote:
"Love gets you through times of no sex better than sex gets you through times of no love." -- my 9th grade biology teacher.

Personal experience has taught me this is generally true.
This is true when you're good-looking and desirable to the opposite sex (or same sex, if you're LGBT). That is, you have the luxury of selecting a partner most endearing and arousing to you. Otherwise, "love" is a paltry consolation prize when you're a virgin over 20.

Case in point. When I was 22, I signed up for a casual encounters site to lose my virginity. After 500+ attempts, I found a willing taker. But when I got to the bar where I supposed to meet her at, to talk a little then go to her place, she ignored my calls and texts. (I think she planned it.)

You know what my Chad friend said? "Maybe this is a good thing. Maybe it's a sign you should look for a loving girlfriend instead." I took me A LOT of mental effort not to punch him in his smug Chad face! Of course "it's a good thing"; FOR HIM! He had 4 ongoing sex buddies, and countless one-time hookups. So I know why he was virtue-signaling: he could afford to do it, being a good-looking man; I couldn't.

I felt VERY vindicated when I called him a few months later and told him I lost my virginity to an escort. He even got a bit jealous when I showed him her pictures on her website. She was one of my city's top 10 escorts at the time.



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25 Jul 2022, 6:28 pm

Twilightprincess wrote:
The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
Nades wrote:
ironpony wrote:
Are some people hypocritical when it comes to not wanting to have sex with virgins as a lot of people are hot for the idea of being treated by someone with sexual experience, but at the same time, they don't want to return the favor for anyone inexperienced.


Depends on age, why someone is a virgin and the intention of the virgin.

If you're 20 and religious or have been concentrating of studies or career then that's fair enough.

If you're 30, want kids but still haven't seen a penis or vagina and refused when offered after dating for a few months, then that's an all together different kettle of fish. Especially if they're not religious or have any legitimate reason.

Sometimes virginity is easy to understand and has a reasonable explanation. Other times the virgin themselves are just stubborn or unkempt.

Once people get older being a virgin becomes a bit of a problem depending on the circumstances. Like the example above, I would want an explanation as to why someone who wanted kids hasn't and still refuses to see a vagina or penis at 30 when they're already at the average age where people have their first child. Being that straight laced and innocent is off-putting to partners and harmful to the virgin.

Many people don't want to deal with the baggage of older virgins as they're often set in their ways and the people having to deal with them are getting older themselves.

I'd dare say most older non-religious male virgins are very interested in losing their virginity, but lack opportunities.



Many women probably feel the same way. This isn’t a gendered thing.

There are women out there who’ve never found a partner.

There would be some for sure, but most women who want a sex partner can make an account on tinder and find a legion of willing men to choose from. The same is not true for men who want to have sex with women.



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25 Jul 2022, 6:30 pm

The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
Nades wrote:
ironpony wrote:
Are some people hypocritical when it comes to not wanting to have sex with virgins as a lot of people are hot for the idea of being treated by someone with sexual experience, but at the same time, they don't want to return the favor for anyone inexperienced.


Depends on age, why someone is a virgin and the intention of the virgin.

If you're 20 and religious or have been concentrating of studies or career then that's fair enough.

If you're 30, want kids but still haven't seen a penis or vagina and refused when offered after dating for a few months, then that's an all together different kettle of fish. Especially if they're not religious or have any legitimate reason.

Sometimes virginity is easy to understand and has a reasonable explanation. Other times the virgin themselves are just stubborn or unkempt.

Once people get older being a virgin becomes a bit of a problem depending on the circumstances. Like the example above, I would want an explanation as to why someone who wanted kids hasn't and still refuses to see a vagina or penis at 30 when they're already at the average age where people have their first child. Being that straight laced and innocent is off-putting to partners and harmful to the virgin.

Many people don't want to deal with the baggage of older virgins as they're often set in their ways and the people having to deal with them are getting older themselves.

I'd dare say most older non-religious male virgins are very interested in losing their virginity, but lack opportunities.



Many women probably feel the same way. This isn’t a gendered thing.

There are women out there who’ve never found a partner.

There would be some for sure, but most women who want a sex partner can make an account on tinder and find a legion of willing men to choose from. The same is not true for men who want to have sex with women.


So you’re a woman and would know? :roll:

It’s against the rules to say that a particular gender has it easier.



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25 Jul 2022, 6:32 pm

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So you’re a woman and would know? :roll:

I've seen the tinder experiments where a conventionally unattractive woman received more swipes and engagement than even a conventionally attractive man.



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25 Jul 2022, 6:33 pm

The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
So you’re a woman and would know? :roll:

I've seen the tinder experiments where a conventionally unattractive woman received more swipes and engagement than a conventionally attractive man.


That’s probably not valid, empirical research.



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25 Jul 2022, 6:34 pm

Twilightprincess wrote:
It’s against the rules to say that a particular gender has it easier.

So it's against the rules to cite social trends that result in different average experiences for men and women?



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25 Jul 2022, 6:35 pm

Twilightprincess wrote:
The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
So you’re a woman and would know? :roll:

I've seen the tinder experiments where a conventionally unattractive woman received more swipes and engagement than a conventionally attractive man.


That’s probably not valid, empirical research.

Have you ever used Tinder?



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25 Jul 2022, 6:36 pm

The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
It’s against the rules to say that a particular gender has it easier.

So it's against the rules to cite social trends that result in different average experiences for men and women?


Check out why this thread was locked:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=405709&start=80



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25 Jul 2022, 6:38 pm

Twilightprincess wrote:
The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
It’s against the rules to say that a particular gender has it easier.

So it's against the rules to cite social trends that result in different average experiences for men and women?


Check out why this thread was locked:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=405709&start=80

So are you saying you think the typical experience with online dating for men is similar to that of women?



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25 Jul 2022, 6:40 pm

The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
So you’re a woman and would know? :roll:

I've seen the tinder experiments where a conventionally unattractive woman received more swipes and engagement than a conventionally attractive man.


That’s probably not valid, empirical research.

Have you ever used Tinder?


That's a Tinder problem, remove yourself from that bubble and it's not a issue.


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