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01 May 2013, 3:41 pm

A second note: multiple gatherings of churches in Nagasaki were vaporized by the atomic bomb dropped on it, during worship.


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01 May 2013, 4:15 pm

Did I scare you with my very commendable reasoning? Why would people not want to respond? I guess I will go to Japan myself.


Doo doo dah do do dah dah duhm gidaay, doo doo dah do do dah dah duhm gidaay. Where have all the good men gone and where are all the guards? Where's a street wise Hercules to fight the rising odds? Isn't there a white knight, upon a flying steed? I'm gonna toss and turn and dream of what I need... I need a hero...! (I got bored, really bored).


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01 May 2013, 4:36 pm

appletheclown wrote:
Did I scare you with my very commendable reasoning? Why would people not want to respond? I guess I will go to Japan myself.


Doo doo dah do do dah dah duhm gidaay, doo doo dah do do dah dah duhm gidaay. Where have all the good men gone and where are all the guards? Where's a street wise Hercules to fight the rising odds? Isn't there a white knight, upon a flying steed? I'm gonna toss and turn and dream of what I need... I need a hero...! (I got bored, really bored).


Maybe people have other things to do like make lunch.

That's cool to hear about Japanese Christians. We have St. Nicholas of Japan for the Orthodox. My priest told me Japan would be really isolating as there's like no Christians, and told me to go to Russia or Eastern Europe instead.



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01 May 2013, 5:33 pm

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appletheclown wrote:
Did I scare you with my very commendable reasoning? Why would people not want to respond? I guess I will go to Japan myself.


Doo doo dah do do dah dah duhm gidaay, doo doo dah do do dah dah duhm gidaay. Where have all the good men gone and where are all the guards? Where's a street wise Hercules to fight the rising odds? Isn't there a white knight, upon a flying steed? I'm gonna toss and turn and dream of what I need... I need a hero...! (I got bored, really bored).


Maybe people have other things to do like make lunch.

That's cool to hear about Japanese Christians. We have St. Nicholas of Japan for the Orthodox. My priest told me Japan would be really isolating as there's like no Christians, and told me to go to Russia or Eastern Europe instead.


Japan actually has a Jesuit church still going in Nagasaki. It has been restored to its original state pre-great martyrdom. It ran clear through WW2, and there are several memorials the Japanese erected for the Japanese Christians still in Nagasaki. The museum of the atomic bombings in Nagasaki actually has an exhibit recognizing those who died in the Church when the bombs went off. It is near the entrance actually. If you go to Japan wearing a rosary necklace, a Japanese teenager is likely to ask you about America, and what being a Christian is like. There are many young people willing to listen, maybe not believe, but give you a chance to speak your two cents. The elderly, well that is a different story. If you manage to earn the respect of the elderly of Japan, as an un-hidden Christian American, you are the most BA man currently living. You would deserve comendation, if not reward.

They have shown a complete turn around to Christianity. It is not that they are being persecuted anymore, it is that they stop believing.


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01 May 2013, 5:36 pm

Also, all the martyrs in Japan are now considered saints, according to the Catholic Church.


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01 May 2013, 6:09 pm

It has nothing to do with anime, even though anime is what made me such a loving and caring person about this subject, and would never have led me to come to know what I know about this, if I hadn't watched anime at all. Who says anime doesn't improve the world? My God does....[/quote]

Last time I checked, god (yes, not capitalized) was not owned by anyone. Though, it would be interesting if god had an opinion of anime. Now I am humoring myself with the visual of god watching Pokémon.



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01 May 2013, 6:27 pm

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For those who do not have high levels of education or a viable career, it's probably better to focus on getting that fixed before you look into dating. Seriously. Statistics show that 80-90% of women refuse to date an unemployed or underemployed man, and the other 10-20% are probably just lying or would only make exceptions for real hotties. Asian women come from an even more traditional culture that expects economic security.


"No money, no honey." The way that women are beating the pants off of men, both academically and professionally, that may have to change in the not-too-distant future. If the only men left are those who want to spend most of their days and nights playing with their XBoxes, then so be it.

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I think there is one--and only one--circumstance where Western men looking abroad for Asian women is valid and not f**** up:

That is entirely for each man to decide for himself.

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You are a highly educated, hopefully successful, individual who does not fit with the West's extroverted culture. Therefore, you prefer someone from another culture where intelligence and thoughtfulness are valued over snazz. Lots of East Asian women would love to have you.

That is one valid scenario.



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01 May 2013, 7:18 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
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For those who do not have high levels of education or a viable career, it's probably better to focus on getting that fixed before you look into dating. Seriously. Statistics show that 80-90% of women refuse to date an unemployed or underemployed man, and the other 10-20% are probably just lying or would only make exceptions for real hotties. Asian women come from an even more traditional culture that expects economic security.


"No money, no honey." The way that women are beating the pants off of men, both academically and professionally, that may have to change in the not-too-distant future. If the only men left are those who want to spend most of their days and nights playing with their XBoxes, then so be it.


Perhaps. I, for one, have lots of contempt for women who are uneducated, underemployed, and yet seek a man for economic security. If any such woman asked me out, I'd be like, "are you f*****g serious?!"

Finally, you don't have to become a citizen to live in most Asian countries, including Japan, long-term. It's possible to get renewable visas or even permanent residency in some cases. People do it all the time, even in Communist China.



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01 May 2013, 7:20 pm

Another valid scenario

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXKaEouxAAg[/youtube]



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01 May 2013, 7:21 pm

Actually, statistics show that most men prefer women of lower socioeconomic status than themselves. Apparently, female success threatens the male ego. A good thing women like men of higher socioeconomic status, I suppose, though this causes issues in itself.



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01 May 2013, 7:23 pm

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Actually, statistics show that most men prefer women of lower socioeconomic status than themselves. Apparently, female success threatens the male ego. A good thing women like men of higher socioeconomic status, I suppose, though this causes issues in itself.


I think this is outdated. I don't want to risk someone who will pressure me into getting married and then divorce me and require alimony and/or child support.

Thus, I am really only willing to date a professional equal. I think this is the modern trend anyway, according to the most recent studies (people of like socioeconomic status dating each other).



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01 May 2013, 7:24 pm

Somthing to ask, appletheclown, do you actually speak Japanese. A bit of a necessity if you wish to make Japan your new home.



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01 May 2013, 7:24 pm

And there are a lot of men out there who, like the Master of Coin, refuse to date a woman who doesn't have a sparkling career and isn't pulling in decent bucks. (Making a lot of money.)

Then the same men turn around and say how they hate feminism, hate career women, and just want a nice "subservient Asian girl" - sigh.

I've seen it happen sooo many times.

Men aren't the only ones who have it rough out there in the dating pool, but at least, biology gives you longer to make up your mind and then still have kids (and probably a younger spouse than you are.) So biology is at least in males' favor. Some of you can take some solace in that, I hope.

BTW I know Tyri0n didn't say "make a lot of money" but I felt it was implied, plus I just wanted to talk about all the times I have seen and heard that. ETA: Apparently while I was typing my post, Tyri0n and PsychoSarah posted and basically said what I just did. Lol. In my experience what men do while dating and what they say they want on places like Yahoo comment boards, are polar opposite.



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01 May 2013, 7:25 pm

Tyri0n wrote:
PsychoSarah wrote:
Actually, statistics show that most men prefer women of lower socioeconomic status than themselves. Apparently, female success threatens the male ego. A good thing women like men of higher socioeconomic status, I suppose, though this causes issues in itself.


I think this is outdated. I don't want to risk someone who will pressure me into getting married and then divorce me and require alimony and/or child support.

Thus, I am really only willing to date a professional equal. I think this is the modern trend anyway, according to the most recent studies (people of like socioeconomic status dating each other).


Circa de 2011, not so outdated



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01 May 2013, 7:29 pm

A lot of guys seem to want it both ways. They want a subservient woman, but they want her to hold her own and pay her own way. They want her to cook, clean, bear and raise kids if they have kids, (if he wants kids) and then also have a career or at least a job that pays well.

It's kind of like wanting the ease of the life they had with Mom...you know?

I'm sure men have complaints about women's wants too but, I had to say it.

Also a man who wants a subservient woman from an Asian country or Russia or something like that...might be very surprised later on. Some of those cultures are way into money more so than here. And when you grow up not having something sometimes it makes you focus on it even more (like money for instance.)

Those women might seem easy going at first, because they want the heck out of where they are living. It's too bad men can't solve how they relate to women instead of just looking for some unicorn out there.



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01 May 2013, 7:31 pm

PsychoSarah wrote:
Somthing to ask, appletheclown, do you actually speak Japanese. A bit of a necessity if you wish to make Japan your new home.


I learned Mandarin in 1 year to near fluency living in China. I don't think Japanese is that much harder. I don't think it's required to know it at the outset if you're willing to learn.