I don't want to date poor people

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She probably doesn't want to take the weekend trip alone, either, so the boyfriend can't just stay at home—he'd better go with her and pay for it. If he doesn't, some wealthier suitor will.

Look at the number of homeless men vs women, and at the numbers of househusbands (barely 2% in the most advanced societies) vs housewives - it becomes very obvious which gender is less willing to shelter and support the other, and which gender is more forgiving of the partner's nonworking status.
Not saying it's all, but it is an obvious trend.

Boo, maybe it's just me but it looks like this trend supports both wage gap and patriarchy? Shouldn't men be in favor of this trend and not women then?

While I still think that financial state is important for nearly everyone, there's a few exceptions. Everyone has different believes and I bet there's at least one anti-capitalist girl around you, sly.

Yeah but she won't like my looks or personality, etc. I have too many negatives. God cursed me from birth probably why I was dying when born stupid doctors.

In my personal experiences, a male is more likely to fall for his female friend than vice-versa.

I've noticed a lot of young men may say they're 'just friends' with a woman, but may be secretly attracted to her, or at least would give her a chance and try for a relationship with her if she were interested in him, but the opposite is rarely true.

When a woman only sees a male as a friend, it seems very set in stone and next to impossible to change. She really does see him 100% as a 'brother' type, while at least 10% of men in this world harbor some deep sub-conscious attractiveness to a female friend just waiting to come out.

A few studies show men think their female friend feels the same way, even slightly attracted to them back, but most of the women report they feel NO attraction whatsoever to a male friend:

http://jezebel.com/5928140/men-usually- ... ng-on-them

All of THESE men actually speak of their attractions to their 'completely platonic friend':

http://thoughtcatalog.com/christine-sto ... n-them-on/





This youtube interview video provides more personal experiences:



This study says while men and women can be 'just friends', men are more likely to see potential in her as a romantic or sexual partner:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/th ... st-friends



A few studies show men fall in love harder and faster than women:
http://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/a57 ... tionships/
http://elitedaily.com/dating/men-likely ... en/965285/





Women are more likely to initiate divorce than men: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/th ... -heres-why



Also, when men and women come together to rate the attractiveness of both sexes, women are overall rated by both men and other women higher, and men are rated lower: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/th ... they-think



OkCupid results show women rate 80% of men as 'below average': https://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your ... ne-dating/

It is in my personal experiences most women do not like to be cold approached by strangers and feel uncomfortable or annoyed by it, and would be unlikely to give a man a chance for a date if he approached her in this manner.

Meanwhile, I can't say I've observed the opposite to be true, because I've seen a lot of men that are very flattered by it and would go on a date with women when cold approached him.

Men are the one's actually affected more by breakups, according to these studies: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/it ... ougher-men

Men are found to be 'more romantic': https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/th ... they-think



In my personal experiences, as I have spent years browsing multiple websites including here, Reddit, Citydata, Social Anxiety Forum, Facebook, Bodybuilding.com, and a variety of other public forums, men who are single and lonely, and men who identify as 'Forever Alone' (have never had a single relationship or ever felt desired by another person in their entire life) appear to significantly outnumber women in the same position, but of course female F/As exist.

Evidence:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ForeverAlone/c ... lone_male/
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comment ... alone_men/
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=body ... ilding.com

This collection of my personal experiences, a high amount of the personal experiences of others, and studies and statistics, just goes to provide evidence for the hypothesis that men want and value love more than women do.

If you disagree, please provide multiple studies as well and more personal experiences than just yourself.

One single personal experience won't cut it.

You'd need multiple personal experiences and studies that also back-up what you're saying.

In your age range (let's say it's <35 years), men outnumber women. Let's say that most people eventually do find a partner, then this small difference in number could in theory cause this larger skew.

Actually patriarchy should be renamed alpha-patriarchy to be more accurate, because in reality only the males at the top status/wealth fully benefit from it. State leaders don't go to wars themselves, nor they would end up homeless.

and yes, it does affect the wage gap, definitely - there are studies on why the workingmen/housewives couples cause a wage gap in disfavor of working women and unmarried men.

It could also be that the househusband gig just isn't working out--that they end up being lazy losers instead of productive partners. Part of it may be training--they may lack the knowledge and skills needed to keep house. Though I found everything I needed to know about hemming a couple shirts on the Internet... now I have a couple of heavy flannel shirts that are just the right size.

It could also be that trophy wives who get to stay home and raise kids are winners, and the guys who have to stay at home and do the same thing are losers.

In what sense are they winners? Do you men that their position is more desirable or that they're better at it? I'm confused because I don't think that stereotypical trophy wife would be good at hemming shirts, for example.

They are winners because being home to raise kids with plenty of resources is something that most women want. Yes, many women are jealous of other women who marry well and get to raise kids with spouse who provides enough so that they can stay home and raise the kids. Having to work and leave the kids at daycare isn't as desirable.

I have a couple of friends with stay at home husbands. It wasn't planned, just ended up working out that way. In both cases, the woman's career took off around the time of the first baby and it made sense to have dad be the primary parent.

In the first case, she was was a lawyer who'd made partner and hubby managed a Starbucks. In the second, she made senior director and he elected to keep a lower-level, low stress government job with flexible hours until both kids were in school.

It was a mutual decision to have dad stay home and I assume that's the case when mom decides to stay home/not work.

'Does this make me a bad person? I'm middle class'.

Yes, it does!

bourgeoisie will always be bourgeoisie.

Also if you're living in america middle class no longer exists. If you're not in the top 1% your ass is poor, but able to buy s**t at christmas.

I don't acknowledge class differences because there are none. There is nobody on Earth socially above me and there is nobody on Earth socially below me. Or you, for that matter. We are all human, all equal.

As me ould grandmother once said: 'Everyone's poo stinks the same!'

A bad person? Don't know. At least you're honest.
On one hand I can understand this. I mean, who wants to go out with someone who can't pay their way?
But you self-identify as middle class, which means that someone who's upper class may look down their nose at you the same way you do about poor people. Ever thought about that?
If you don't want to go out with poor people JUST SAY NO.

I don't want to go out with anyone (the only man I would consider has been married for 36 years).

But if I was, I certainly wouldn't date an idle rich man who has never done an honest day's work in his life.