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18 Mar 2013, 10:59 am

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How very interesting!

You get very angry about having your looks criticised yet you feel fine with giving out your judgements on how others look quite freely

there's a direct equivalence there but you don't like it

You felt her looks were up for debate so in my opinion yours were too

Only it seems it's not a two-way process is it?

You want the freedom to judge but not be judged

Well you get over yourself!

If you deal it out you should be prepared to take it back!

I was giving my free opinion on your looks to show how unpleasant it is to be on the receiving end of such harsh judgement and having to read others doing it all the time on here

You didn't like it - no one does!


No sh** no one likes it.. the question of her attractiveness was brought up, and I offered my opinion. Do you think that woman is going to be reading every thread on WrongPlanet to see if she's mentioned?
That's not a direct equivalence, I have the decency not to put someone down to their face, or even behind their back really. I only offered my opinion because it was part of the discussion.

I'm not really that angry about your comment about my looks, I know you're full of sh** anyway.. I'm quite confident with the way I look :roll:
I'm more annoyed about the fact that I can't say anything on this board about women, even when it's the topic in discussion, even if other people agree with me.. without getting torn a new ass hole.

If someone with your aggressive and destructive tone doesn't find me attractive, I believe that means I'm better off :?


The question of her attractiveness was brought up - by you!

So having done that, why can't I do the same to you?

Again, why are you some kind of protected species that no one can have an opinion about?

The point I am making (without getting through) is that you can say what you like about women but don't be too surprised if someone decides to say what they like about you in return!

You are saying it's ok to have an opinion on a person's attractiveness so why can't the same be done on yours?

This is like you punching someone in the face but saying they can't hit you back

Why?

It's cowardly imo and proves what I've always thought about the type of people who so freely dispense such nasty, judgemental opinions - it's not 'allowed' to be done back to them


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You don't think the woman is pretty or you just don't like Pitbull?

You're an idiot.

Feel free to judge me all you like, I even posted some better picture above.
Your opinion won't change anything.


No, my point has just gone about a million miles over your head!



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18 Mar 2013, 10:59 am

Me? I'm an idiot? :cry: :cry:


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18 Mar 2013, 11:00 am

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Me? I'm an idiot? :cry: :cry:


Not not you, don't worry



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18 Mar 2013, 11:01 am

uwmonkdm wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
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How very interesting!

You get very angry about having your looks criticised yet you feel fine with giving out your judgements on how others look quite freely

there's a direct equivalence there but you don't like it

You felt her looks were up for debate so in my opinion yours were too

Only it seems it's not a two-way process is it?

You want the freedom to judge but not be judged

Well you get over yourself!

If you deal it out you should be prepared to take it back!

I was giving my free opinion on your looks to show how unpleasant it is to be on the receiving end of such harsh judgement and having to read others doing it all the time on here

You didn't like it - no one does!


No sh** no one likes it.. the question of her attractiveness was brought up, and I offered my opinion. Do you think that woman is going to be reading every thread on WrongPlanet to see if she's mentioned?
That's not a direct equivalence, I have the decency not to put someone down to their face, or even behind their back really. I only offered my opinion because it was part of the discussion.

I'm not really that angry about your comment about my looks, I know you're full of sh** anyway.. I'm quite confident with the way I look :roll:
I'm more annoyed about the fact that I can't say anything on this board about women, even when it's the topic in discussion, even if other people agree with me.. without getting torn a new ass hole.

If someone with your aggressive and destructive tone doesn't find me attractive, I believe that means I'm better off :?


The question of her attractiveness was brought up - by you!

So having done that, why can't I do the same to you?

Again, why are you some kind of protected species that no one can have an opinion about?

The point I am making (without getting through) is that you can say what you like about women but don't be too surprised if someone decides to say what they like about you in return!

You are saying it's ok to have an opinion on a person's attractiveness so why can't the same be done on yours?

This is like you punching someone in the face but saying they can't hit you back

Why?

It's cowardly imo and proves what I've always thought about the type of people who so freely dispense such nasty, judgemental opinions - it's not 'allowed' to be done back to them


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You don't think the woman is pretty or you just don't like Pitbull?

You're an idiot.

Feel free to judge me all you like, I even posted some better picture above.
Your opinion won't change anything.

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And saying that woman looked like a man and that you'd been sick in your mouth wasn't destructive and aggressive?

It was pure misogyny

The "sick in my mouth" comment was actually about how creepy Pitbull looks.. the whole picture just turned me off completely.


Whatever you say Mr 'I've got a delightful attitude toward women'



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18 Mar 2013, 11:02 am

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I think you look great. You aren't ugly by all means. I can show you ugly, but I may gag. In my opinion I find PSY to be very very unattractive. :roll: Cute dog btw, what breed?


I think most people find Psy to be unattractive lol, there's actually a great analysis done by Slavoj Zizek about why that video was so popular.
Ah it was from a nearly 2 hour lecture but someone cut it out and made a separate video:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP6LoH3hASo[/youtube]

Well, you'll luv this one, luvsterriers..
He's a mix of poodle, shitzu and terrier. Name is Viper, because he thinks he's a freaking beast.
I swear he's not afraid of anything :?



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18 Mar 2013, 11:03 am

Oh ok. I didn't mean to start this topic and have people bash each other. This isn't high school anymore. Could we all get along please? :D


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18 Mar 2013, 11:03 am

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Me? I'm an idiot? :cry: :cry:


Haha no :lol:
She said that no one asked my opinion, when you clearly did, I was just quoting it to prove a point.



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18 Mar 2013, 11:05 am

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Me? I'm an idiot? :cry: :cry:


Haha no :lol:
She said that no one asked my opinion, when you clearly did, I was just quoting it to prove a point.


Oh I think you've proven my point admirably



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18 Mar 2013, 11:06 am

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Whatever you say Mr 'I've got a delightful attitude toward women'


I don't actually. I don't have a delightful attitude towards men either.
There's no sexism here, I don't have a delightful attitude towards culture and people in general in North America.

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Oh I think you've proven my point admirably

I don't see how. If your point was that "it's not nice to call that lady ugly" then yea, sue me.. I'm guilty.



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18 Mar 2013, 11:09 am

uwmonkdm wrote:
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Whatever you say Mr 'I've got a delightful attitude toward women'


I don't actually. I don't have a delightful attitude towards men either.
There's no sexism here, I don't have a delightful attitude towards culture and people in general in North America.


I hate to break it to you but you've got a generic misogynistic male attitude towards women, which is exceedingly common

There's nothing original or special about you I'm afraid

You will probably be surrounded by like-minded people wherever you go though - always one of the benefits of thinking like the lowest-common denominator



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18 Mar 2013, 11:10 am

I did see the entire video of Give me Everything. Nayer is in it whoever she is. She is pretty. She seems to be dancing close to Ne Yo and Pitbull. Oh yea Ne Yo is Black/Chinese. I never heard of Ne Yo.


I think this is some of Pitbull's lyrics.

Excuse me
But I might drink a little more than I should tonight
And I might take you home with me if I could tonight
And, baby, I'ma make you feel so good, tonight
Cuz we might not get tomorrow

What does he mean? By not having it tomorrow? :? Eh on second thought I probably don't wanna know.

Then Forget About Your boyfriend and meet me at the hotel room? So cheat on your boyfriend with Pitbull? While that may be tempting, it's still wrong.

I just went to 7-11 earlier and saw a bunch of Hispanic men. :roll: I have met plenty of Hispanic men in school, work, walking dog, etc. Pitbull is by far the hottest Hispanic out there. It's just weird. Bald and Cuban men don't fascinate me. Maybe this obsession will go away? I don't know. Yet I also listen to other music like Christian and country. I even listen to some classical/opera like Josh Groban.




Apparently Nayer appears in many of Pitbull's videos. Lucky girl?


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18 Mar 2013, 11:10 am

uwmonkdm wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
Whatever you say Mr 'I've got a delightful attitude toward women'


I don't actually. I don't have a delightful attitude towards men either.
There's no sexism here, I don't have a delightful attitude towards culture and people in general in North America.

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Oh I think you've proven my point admirably

I don't see how. If your point was that "it's not nice to call that lady ugly" then yea, sue me.. I'm guilty.


Then I'm guilty as well for calling you the same



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18 Mar 2013, 11:11 am

luvsterriers wrote:
I did see the entire video of Give me Everything. Nayer is in it whoever she is. She is pretty. She seems to be dancing close to Ne Yo and Pitbull. Oh yea Ne Yo is Black/Chinese. I never heard of Ne Yo.


I think this is some of Pitbull's lyrics.

Excuse me
But I might drink a little more than I should tonight
And I might take you home with me if I could tonight
And, baby, I'ma make you feel so good, tonight
Cuz we might not get tomorrow

What does he mean? By not having it tomorrow? :? Eh I second thought I probably don't wanna know.

Then Forget About Your boyfriend and meet me at the hotel room? So cheat on your boyfriend with Pitbull? While that may be tempting, it's still wrong.

I just went to 7-11 earlier and saw a bunch of Hispanic men. :roll: I have met plenty of Hispanic men in school, work, walking dog, etc. Pitbull is by far the hottest Hispanic out there. It's just weird. Bald and Cuban men don't fascinate me. Maybe this obsession will go away? I don't know. Yet I also listen to other music like Christian and country. I even listen to some classical/opera like Josh Groban.




Apparently Nayer appears in many of Pitbull's videos. Lucky girl?


Well at least someone finds the poor woman attractive :roll:



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18 Mar 2013, 11:12 am

I think the photo I posted with Pitbull and that Latina lady is not Nayer. I watched the video again and that woman dancing close to Pitbull at end is not Nayer.


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18 Mar 2013, 11:16 am

The music video for "Give Me Everything" was directed by David Roulsseau and features an appearance by Miss Haiti 2010 Sarodj Bertin, former Girlicious Member Natalie Mejia, Cheetah Girls' singer Adrienne Bailon and Russian model Eva Skaya. The music video was filmed in the Alexandria Hotel in Los Angeles and was first released onto Pitbull's official VEVO channel on May 6, 2011.



The song's official music video was released on August 10, 2009 by Pitbull's YouTube channel Pitbull Music. Jim Jonsin and Feisty from For the Love of Ray J make cameo appearances in the video as does Sagia Castañeda, who appeared in the "I Know You Want Me (Calle Ocho)" video as well. This version also replaces the outro in which Pitbull exclaims 'Mujeres!' to an English translation 'All my ladies!'

Don't Stop the Party is supposed to be very pornographic. I saw a clean version which was ok. Haven't seen the pornographic one. It's just strange how Pitbull will be performing at the Kids Choice Awards.
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18 Mar 2013, 11:20 am

nessa238 wrote:
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Whatever you say Mr 'I've got a delightful attitude toward women'


I don't actually. I don't have a delightful attitude towards men either.
There's no sexism here, I don't have a delightful attitude towards culture and people in general in North America.


I hate to break it to you but you've got a generic misogynistic male attitude towards women, which is exceedingly common

There's nothing original or special about you I'm afraid

You will probably be surrounded by like-minded people wherever you go though - always one of the benefits of thinking like the lowest-common denominator


The only attitudes I have expressed are that:
- I am attracted to a certain type of woman, and not attracted to others
- If I am not attracted to a woman, I still treat her with respect
- "Femininity" is an aspect of physical appearance which is older than civilized society and a scientific basis of attraction based on the evolutionary paradigm of selecting the best mate to produce strong offspring - and they are essentially the characteristics that differentiate men from women in appearance - it is not related to who's "sexy" or "attractive" by today's society.
Some women look more masculine. Some men look more feminine.. and there are people who prefer people to look that way. Attraction isn't black and white, get over it.

If that's misogyny then I'm misogynistic, apparently. Everything I say around here is interpreted in that way anyway.
It's no wonder people don't take feminism seriously, there is absolutely no wiggle room for discussion, while militant feminists can say whatever the hell they want.