DataSage’s Alpha Male Guide to Meeting Women (JULY UPDATE!!)
I don't think that should be used against him the man. It will only prove that he is enough like NTs, or have something
that NT woman want etc. I am so supprised on how NTs think if they are married, it must be some kind of wisdom or
relexed happy attitude or some foolish wisdom.
It is better to do cross examination and logical observation to ascertain the posts validity. We do not know why such a high proportion of the male population would choose an a approach that is counter productive. It goes against the laws of natural selection.
Seems to be the correct thing to do in regarding NTs.
Mack27
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Yeah, there are plenty of "empowered" women convincing themselves how fabulous they are who end up old and childless and regretting it. There's a set of rules older than us that says if you don't pass on your genes you lose. All the rest is just window dressing.
Yeah, there are plenty of "empowered" women convincing themselves how fabulous they are who end up old and childless and regretting it. There's a set of rules older than us that says if you don't pass on your genes you lose. All the rest is just window dressing.
Many woman also have run of the mill jobs like retail, admin, refuse supervisor, reception at car hire shops, call centres. And there are the woman who end up in good jobs by circumstance and not a career woman. I think that aspies would have more luck with middle class woman then much of the lower classes. At least here in the the UK. Many woman are at the bottom of social hierarchy, single with kids, fat with hobbies that include drinking, smoking and watching TV. But in my experience they are not easier to acquire relative to other woman, as they are looking for similar type usually bad boys or someone who is polar opposite to aspies. I personally wish there was more science oriented woman. I buy book for resale from car boot sales, and I am very surprised at how very few science books belong to woman.
I'm sceptical whether dating other neurotypicals is a good idea to start with in long term due to lack of compatibility in the way we communicate and other differences, especially if it requires adopting masking behaviors and alienating yourself from your self rather than the behaviors becoming your actual self.
Mack27
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It's very difficult to find someone to be yourself with. With dating, NT's have a selection process that they aren't even completely aware of, Data sage's guide takes advantage of it. You won't get by this initial selection process being yourself usually. You can reveal yourself after getting by the initial screening process and the person is emotionally invested in you, but this does feel dishonest. You have to go through a lot of women before finding one that will accept you for who you are right from the start. They do exist, but in a way they don't because you have to go outside of your comfort zone to find them.
Great read! I love seeing that you are living proof that even guys with aspergers can become experts at meeting and dating women (as well as getting them in bed).
One thing I would add though: LISTEN. One thing that will absolutely KILL your chances with a woman is if she finds out that you're not listening to her, and she will find it out very quickly. If she doesn't have your undivided attention, she's going to believe that you're not really all that interested in HER for who she is.
MacDraggard is right about the listening part. Women typically feel very unhappy in relationships when they feel their man isn't listening to them.
Example:
"I feel as if you aren't interested in me. You are spending so much time with your friends." Translated into "I want you to spend more time with me." A failure to listen to the feedback demonstrates the lack of emotion from the guy nor the ability to care. Woman leaves man because he warnned him before. And some guys may actually accuse the girl of lying to him when in fact this is a case of "Woman didn't lie. The man just didn't listen."
On another note: Some of the problems guys typically have is that we believe a confrontation is likely to occur when a girl says "we need to talk" and "Can I ask you something?" Guys are so afraid of emotion. Answering the question and being relaxed about it and taking control is about the best thing a guy can do.
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Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 88 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie
Woman's Market? Since when was it a Man's Market?
You all need to ask, if she/he says no then walk away. Who gives a flying rhinoceros! And be polite! Plus, even if women are at a disadvantage, love is a one way road with two lanes, and a shit-ton of exits and stops, it is both peoples decision to decide what happens at the crossroads/exits.
None of it will matter unless you actually ask someone out on a date.
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Mack27
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I followed DataSage's guide. I'm married with a child now. That was my goal. I wouldn't trade my wife and son for anything. It's difficult to leave your comfort zone and it's hard to admit that life isn't like TV and that people don't say what they mean. But that's the way it is, you can't just be yourself if your goal is a relationship with an NT woman. You have to be a different version of yourself, one that resonates with what she doesn't even know she's looking for. If you feel awkward talking to women you have to talk to lots of women, you get better at it eventually. This guide leverages your aspie traits into positives.
So I have questions to people who have followed this guide and succeeded.
Like how did you get started? Did you just start talking to random women in the streets or what? What were your social skills like when you started? Did you have social anxiety or many friends when you started?
I myself have been thinking about doing this for a long time but having difficulty getting it started. I am currently studying and doing a phone sales job. Phones sales job has improved my social skills a lot and made me talk more naturally. During this past year I have made probably more friends than I had during elementary school or high school combined. But they have pretty much been almost all men and I still have zero experience about doing romantic stuff with women. So I just wanna continue improving myself and get a girlfriend before life slips by me.
I have tried approaching and talking to few women in the mall but they usually just answer a few words, I run out of things to say and then they walk away. I don't think I'm that bad looking. I go to gym regularly so that's probably not the problem. Should I just continue talking to women in the mall or university or somewhere randomly or try something else? But I'm afraid if I do that I'll get a creeper's reputation for it. I've also thought of trying tinder to see if that helps. I haven't gone to bars very often recently with friends and I'm kinda afraid to go there by myself but if I have to do that to get to talk to women then I guess I'll just have to suck up my fears and do it....
So that's my problem. I'm just kinda anxious about doing this when the few women I have approached have not been very communicative. Maybe I just got unlucky who knows. So I just wanna ask tips about how to do this. What was it like when you started doing this? Were anxious a lot? Did people laugh at you behind your back? Were people looking at you like you were a freak? Did it take long time before you became good at it?
Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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