Didn’t come as a surprise that he was a virgin!

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25 Jul 2022, 10:31 pm

I don’t necessarily feel that lamenting about lack of opportunities, or lamenting about “gender roles” is necessarily “bad”behavior.

I just this believe this lamentation and an overriding desire to lose one’s virginity is counterproductive. It’s better to move beyond this. Being stuck on this perpetuates the frustration.

TGI is definitely more “manly” than I am. He’s almost 6 feet tall, and he’s lost over 100 pounds through exercise. And he’s a decent-looking guy. I feel like “bad luck” plays a considerable role in his frustration.



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25 Jul 2022, 11:22 pm

It's best not to get stuck on what people say and move on. Don't let life past you by as you dwell on things. Stop dwelling and start living.


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25 Jul 2022, 11:25 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I don’t necessarily feel that lamenting about lack of opportunities, or lamenting about “gender roles” is necessarily “bad”behavior.


Lamenting that women supposedly have it easier in terms of finding a partner is “bad” because it creates a hostile environment for female members who are struggling with this.


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26 Jul 2022, 1:12 am

The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
Nades wrote:
ironpony wrote:
Are some people hypocritical when it comes to not wanting to have sex with virgins as a lot of people are hot for the idea of being treated by someone with sexual experience, but at the same time, they don't want to return the favor for anyone inexperienced.


Depends on age, why someone is a virgin and the intention of the virgin.

If you're 20 and religious or have been concentrating of studies or career then that's fair enough.

If you're 30, want kids but still haven't seen a penis or vagina and refused when offered after dating for a few months, then that's an all together different kettle of fish. Especially if they're not religious or have any legitimate reason.

Sometimes virginity is easy to understand and has a reasonable explanation. Other times the virgin themselves are just stubborn or unkempt.

Once people get older being a virgin becomes a bit of a problem depending on the circumstances. Like the example above, I would want an explanation as to why someone who wanted kids hasn't and still refuses to see a vagina or penis at 30 when they're already at the average age where people have their first child. Being that straight laced and innocent is off-putting to partners and harmful to the virgin.

Many people don't want to deal with the baggage of older virgins as they're often set in their ways and the people having to deal with them are getting older themselves.

I'd dare say most older non-religious male virgins are very interested in losing their virginity, but lack opportunities.



Older non-religious male virgins probably have some physical or psychological problems. Something, somewhere is making them unattractive to women.

Casual sex is easier than a full blown relationship so it might be easier focusing on a casual fling for such people first.



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26 Jul 2022, 3:19 am

A post was made in WP about 6 months ago to a study linking the amount of offspring ASD men and women had. The results was that ASD women were considerably more likely to reproduce.

The conclusions you want to draw from it can be whatever you interpret but for me personally I can only draw one conclusion at least for ASD women.

If anyone cares to look for the study on WP and link it here will be more than welcome.

While the thread is sweeping to generalizations I think some element of common sense needs to be kept.

If generalizations are backed up then they're actually very good. Afterall making sweeping generalizations and finding out different trends and outcomes in certain demographics of people underpins a good chunk of the psychological and medical fields.



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26 Jul 2022, 6:12 am

I feel like the experiences of all genders should be taken into account.

A male who is frustrated by difficulties in dating should “think beyond the box,” and understand the female perspective.

Not only is it good for the female to feel validated—it is also good for the male from the standpoint of finding female kindred spirits in the game of life.

I feel like if men understood women better, and not think of them as something mysterious—that there would be less abuse of women by men.



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26 Jul 2022, 6:15 am

 ! Cornflake wrote:
Q: Is it sexist to acknowledge that there are general differences between the experiences of men and women?

A: It is sexist to claim that women have it easier because it invalidates the experience of women who struggle.
It's pointless and does not accomplish anything anyway. It's time to give it a rest IMO.

I couldn't have put it any better and on that note, 34 pages of often sexist and demeaning argument come to an end.

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