Why is it girls have an easier time getting dates than guys?

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31 Jan 2016, 3:18 pm

Given by the age of 40 nearly 99% of US men desiring so have had heterosexual sex, the selection doesn't seem all that selective.


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31 Jan 2016, 3:25 pm

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It's not that I hate women, it's more like jealousy and envy. Because if you're a girl especially at my age, you have multiple guys competing to get your attention and you really don't have it that hard at all finding a boyfriend or getting laid. You really don't... Just look pretty and the guys will come.

And i'd do anything to date a pretty girl or have sex. But because i'm a male who's also short and autistic and has bad social anxiety around women, thats not going to happen. Being born a man with anxiety around women is a death sentence to being single.

I just want to know what it's like, everyone around me is getting into relationships or getting laid and I hate it. I want to be like everyone else, i'm tired of waiting. Iv'e wanted a relationship my whole life, iv'e been obsessed with girls at an earlier age than most. So why can't I have the thing I have wanted literally my whole life?

Because I was born useless. Just because you're unique doesn't mean you're useful to society.


You'll never get a girl if you only accept girls of a certain "high standard, if you can't accept a girl of the same standard as yourself, than i am sorry i do not feel sorry for you. You just cannot expect every girl to lower their standards just because you find them physically attractive, if you yourself aren't as attractive as them and raises the bars for yourself, expecting and only giving girls more attractive than yourself a chance, then boo-freakin-hoo. No pity from me.



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31 Jan 2016, 3:28 pm

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Given by the age of 40 nearly 99% of US men desiring so have had heterosexual sex, the selection doesn't seem all that selective.

Did they say that? Or you just like to tell guys that their problems are fake and they should just stop whining and shut up?



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31 Jan 2016, 3:38 pm

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darkphantomx1 wrote:
It's not that I hate women, it's more like jealousy and envy. Because if you're a girl especially at my age, you have multiple guys competing to get your attention and you really don't have it that hard at all finding a boyfriend or getting laid. You really don't... Just look pretty and the guys will come.

And i'd do anything to date a pretty girl or have sex. But because i'm a male who's also short and autistic and has bad social anxiety around women, thats not going to happen. Being born a man with anxiety around women is a death sentence to being single.

I just want to know what it's like, everyone around me is getting into relationships or getting laid and I hate it. I want to be like everyone else, i'm tired of waiting. Iv'e wanted a relationship my whole life, iv'e been obsessed with girls at an earlier age than most. So why can't I have the thing I have wanted literally my whole life?

Because I was born useless. Just because you're unique doesn't mean you're useful to society.


You'll never get a girl if you only accept girls of a certain "high standard, if you can't accept a girl of the same standard as yourself, than i am sorry i do not feel sorry for you. You just cannot expect every girl to lower their standards just because you find them physically attractive, if you yourself aren't as attractive as them and raises the bars for yourself, expecting and only giving girls more attractive than yourself a chance, then boo-freakin-hoo. No pity from me.

I don't think that he's so selective.



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31 Jan 2016, 3:47 pm

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Given by the age of 40 nearly 99% of US men desiring so have had heterosexual sex, the selection doesn't seem all that selective.

Did they say that? Or you just like to tell guys that their problems are fake and they should just stop whining and shut up?


Depends how you look at it. Which is actually my point.

That is, I think the problems are real. I just don't think they are as they are conceived. I am actually trying to encourage a different way of thinking about the problem, which may well result in its being solved. I suspect there is a certain ego-investment in a particular identity among some members here. I am trying, ham-fisted though it may be, to discourage such investment and encourage better ways of thinking about the problem in an effort to see it solved.

One is often certain something will always be the case right up until it isn't. That said, if one is certain something will always be the case, one is a prime candidate for a self-fulfilling prophecy.


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31 Jan 2016, 4:00 pm

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darkphantomx1 wrote:
It's not that I hate women, it's more like jealousy and envy. Because if you're a girl especially at my age, you have multiple guys competing to get your attention and you really don't have it that hard at all finding a boyfriend or getting laid. You really don't... Just look pretty and the guys will come.

And i'd do anything to date a pretty girl or have sex. But because i'm a male who's also short and autistic and has bad social anxiety around women, thats not going to happen. Being born a man with anxiety around women is a death sentence to being single.

I just want to know what it's like, everyone around me is getting into relationships or getting laid and I hate it. I want to be like everyone else, i'm tired of waiting. Iv'e wanted a relationship my whole life, iv'e been obsessed with girls at an earlier age than most. So why can't I have the thing I have wanted literally my whole life?

Because I was born useless. Just because you're unique doesn't mean you're useful to society.


You'll never get a girl if you only accept girls of a certain "high standard, if you can't accept a girl of the same standard as yourself, than i am sorry i do not feel sorry for you. You just cannot expect every girl to lower their standards just because you find them physically attractive, if you yourself aren't as attractive as them and raises the bars for yourself, expecting and only giving girls more attractive than yourself a chance, then boo-freakin-hoo. No pity from me.

I don't think that he's so selective.



Maybe not, i don't know him personally, so i could just be analyzing what he has written wrongly and misunderstood. Etiher way, that is the impression i got, but yeah i could be wrong. But if i'm not, i stand by what i said, and feel no sympathy. Be it a woman or a man, if they only strive for people of a higher standard than themselves on a physical level, and simply won't go down to people similar to "their own" physical standard/ level, then they don't deserve anyone either as they show very shallow traits that isn't very likable.



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31 Jan 2016, 4:05 pm

The fact that those nobody wants to date can't get dates isn't a problem in the first place---the problem would be that someone were forced to date us.


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31 Jan 2016, 4:25 pm

Hopper wrote:
Depends how you look at it. Which is actually my point.

That is, I think the problems are real. I just don't think they are as they are conceived. I am actually trying to encourage a different way of thinking about the problem, which may well result in its being solved. I suspect there is a certain ego-investment in a particular identity among some members here. I am trying, ham-fisted though it may be, to discourage such investment and encourage better ways of thinking about the problem in an effort to see it solved.

One is often certain something will always be the case right up until it isn't. That said, if one is certain something will always be the case, one is a prime candidate for a self-fulfilling prophecy.

You just need to understand that what is easy for someone might be very hard for someone else. You can say that 99% of people have relationships but remarking how easy it is doesn't really help anyone, you only make them feel disfunctional. You need to accept the idea that for some people (yes, a very tiny pecentage) it is really hard as they say here.
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Maybe not, i don't know him personally, so i could just be analyzing what he has written wrongly and misunderstood. Etiher way, that is the impression i got, but yeah i could be wrong. But if i'm not, i stand by what i said, and feel no sympathy. Be it a woman or a man, if they only strive for people of a higher standard than themselves on a physical level, and simply won't go down to people similar to "their own" physical standard/ level, then they don't deserve anyone either as they show very shallow traits that isn't very likable.

I don't know for sure if he is just interested in sex or he actually wants a relationship (personally I believe the former) but I think he'd accept anything that comes to him, I don't really think that he has high standards. Perhaps next time it would be better not to talk to someone like that on the basis of a mere impression.



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31 Jan 2016, 4:39 pm

I like to think that I will find someone but I really don't know. Autism makes it hard to communicate and combined with social anxiety around woman, it's hard to form any sort of connection.

It's f*****g hard.

People say talking to women is easy but it really isn't for me.



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31 Jan 2016, 5:05 pm

darkphantomx1 wrote:
I like to think that I will find someone but I really don't know. Autism makes it hard to communicate and combined with social anxiety around woman, it's hard to form any sort of connection.

It's f*****g hard.

People say talking to women is easy but it really isn't for me.


I'm sorry that you find it so challenging to communicate with women, as us women can find men puzzling and confusing, obviously we can come across as a challenge to understand as well, we can sometimes tend to be a little mysterious and hard to read. That's what makes men easier on women, as men often are more strait forward and honest, but women on the other hand tend to be more secretive and sometimes don't express what they think because they either want to protect someones feelings from getting hurt, or they are too afraid to put their own feelings on the line, and end up having themselves made a fool of or hurt.
But some men go through these feelings as well, and we often forget that, that men can feel insecure about themselves, or so overprotective of other peoples feelings, that they don't dare to make contact or keep up contact.

If i were you, i think i would try to join activities, groups and go places were you can meet people that has similar interests to yourself. Whether it be at the library, social cooking classes, conventions, music cafe's etc. and having some backup with you maybe if that would boost up your confident.



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01 Feb 2016, 12:31 am

Hopper wrote:
Given by the age of 40 nearly 99% of US men desiring so have had heterosexual sex, the selection doesn't seem all that selective.


By age 40 99% of women have been pregnant a few times. There is another false pulled from your butt made up state as well.



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01 Feb 2016, 12:32 am

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Hopper wrote:
Given by the age of 40 nearly 99% of US men desiring so have had heterosexual sex, the selection doesn't seem all that selective.


By age 40 99% of women have been pregnant a few times. There is another false pulled from your butt made up state as well.


Where did you get this information from?


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01 Feb 2016, 5:28 am

From the CDC.

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archi ... ss/284412/

There's a link to a PDF in the seventh paragraph (the one that starts 'According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention...'.) with the word 'report'.

I downloaded the pdf and looked at the data. Of men between the ages of 40-44, 1.3% had not had heterosexual intercourse (I am presuming the men they asked were either heterosexual or bisexual).

Now, it could be that we have a cluster of such on this board; or that one's chance of being and remaining a virgin is higher for those with Asperger's Syndrome. All the same, those are pretty good odds.

We should be very careful with how we think of ourselves, with the stories we tell about ourselves, as such things are apt to become self-fulfilling. That someone is presently a virgin, or has struggled to get a date, is a fact. That this will always be the case is not. It is very rare that there is nothing to be done. But if one is resigned to being a virgin, or dateless, the odds of that being so increase.


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01 Feb 2016, 2:45 pm

I'd believe census over cdc. If your going state 99% of men have had tons of sex. I want that backed up with a polling of 2/3 of the us population. Otherwise they could have just polled 1000 sex addicts and said yep most people have sex. While there were 20000 sexless people in the same area. Much how like when people poll anti gun cities then claim all America is anti gun. Well yeah if you seek out and only ask people whom you think will answer how you want you'll get the results you want. I've never ever ever been polled for any of these things nor has anyone I've met or anyone they've met. If the polls were random certainly one of theses people would been asked.

And let's say it was tru. You'll talking about two generations with very different mindsets. 40 year olds and above are from the 70s, grew up without Internet and a very sexually liberated times. Now a days most 20ish people are single. I suspect when they 40 that won't change .

Main point. I can find a poll that supports whatever issue or side I agree with. Polls mean nothing.



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01 Feb 2016, 2:46 pm

Also how many guys if asked would lie and say they've had tons of sex in order to not seem like a loser?



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01 Feb 2016, 3:01 pm

Sly most people have sex and relationships, it is true.



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