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20 Nov 2018, 8:27 am

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NTS do not have Autism and they do not understand. NTS are from a position of advantage in regards to social and emotional intelligence that are critical in regards to forming friendships and relationships. Autistics are shunned from society due to their lack of social and emotional intelligence. Female Autistics often can hide emotional and social skills and still form friendships and relationships with NTs. Autistc males do not have the ability to hide their lack of social and emotional intelligence, they are effectively shunned from society and treated as social pariahs.


If you hate your symptoms so badly, why don't you treat them? :?

*shrug* I'll never understand why people here complain, complain, complain that they can't stand abc and xyz symptom and how they affect their life, yet they're unwilling to consider treating them and seeing if they feel better.

To each their own, I suppose.

I made my choice over 5 years ago & have less than zero regrets about it. Life is night and day better in every way.


Autism is not treatable. All experts in neurology agree on this.



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20 Nov 2018, 8:30 am

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Unfortunately no one is more bigoted against incels than incels themselves. They have declared that they are hopeless and can never enter into a relationship.

If incels were not so bigoted against themselves they would never give up on themselves. If they got rejected by ten thousand girls, they would ask out ten thousand and one.


And how do you suggest I ask out ten thousand women when all the women where I live are already taken?



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20 Nov 2018, 8:35 am

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Unfortunately no one is more bigoted against incels than incels themselves. They have declared that they are hopeless and can never enter into a relationship.

If incels were not so bigoted against themselves they would never give up on themselves. If they got rejected by ten thousand girls, they would ask out ten thousand and one.


And how do you suggest I ask out ten thousand women when all the women where I live are already taken?

He's also not considering the emotional toll 10,000 rejections would take on someone when they get nowhere, ever. Success gives you confidence and continual failure does the opposite. Itd be hard enough to ask 100 girls out and receive only rejection.



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20 Nov 2018, 8:39 am

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Two clear groups on here: The dreamers and the realists. The dreamers pushing cope and false hope and weak advice like: be yourself, improve yourself, chin up, keep trying and other empty advice that leads no where. Then we have the realists the enlightened ones that understand how the world works and have accepted that no matter what they say or do it will make no difference. The realists have more time to live their lives: career/interests/hobbies that they want to do and have nothing standing in their way.


I'm a realist and I just want to kill myself. I only work because I have to support my family.


I hear that a lot. "I can't give up because my family needs me."

Well, I don't have a family. So why the **** do I still bother?



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20 Nov 2018, 8:45 am

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Unfortunately no one is more bigoted against incels than incels themselves. They have declared that they are hopeless and can never enter into a relationship.

If incels were not so bigoted against themselves they would never give up on themselves. If they got rejected by ten thousand girls, they would ask out ten thousand and one.


And how do you suggest I ask out ten thousand women when all the women where I live are already taken?

He's also not considering the emotional toll 10,000 rejections would take on someone when they get nowhere, ever. Success gives you confidence and continual failure does the opposite. Itd be hard enough to ask 100 girls out and receive only rejection.


Plus, what are the odds of anyone ever meeting 10,000 women they are compatible with? Many of the people I encounter in my life, both men and women, are so mind-numbingly boring or outright idiotic it makes my brains almost ooze out of my ears if I have to stay around them for any length of time.

10,000 is in the neighborhood of the average number of all humans (women, men, LGBTQ, children, etc...) I would meet over the span of several years.



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20 Nov 2018, 8:47 am

Maybe if involuntarily celibate men would not complain so much about being involuntarily celibate, their involuntary celibacy would come to an end.



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20 Nov 2018, 9:11 am

Incel males been rejected by society for their physical/ugliness, intellectual handicap, low social/emotional intelligence or low status or a combination. Modern society pushes the need for perfection in regards to being tall, rich, handsome and above 6'2" and look like Thor. Incel males are just a byproduct of the Hollywood society that has created us. 90% of guys rejected on Tinder or rarely get any replies. Women only want the top 10% of guys on Tinder, Tinder is the reality of the modern dating world!



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20 Nov 2018, 9:15 am

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Incels been rejected by society for their physical/ugliness, intellectual handicap, low social/emotional intelligence or low status or a combination. Modern society pushes the need for perfection in regards to being tall, rich, handsome and above 6'2" and look like Thor. Incel males are just a byproduct of the Hollywood society that has created us.
I am physically ugly, with an ASD (often mistaken for mental retardation), flat affect (lack of emotional expression), and I was once homeless (for about 17-18 months).

I am also happily married, gainfully employed, and my friends tell me I'm "cool".

Now ... what were you saying?

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20 Nov 2018, 9:24 am

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From a survival perspective for an Autistic male it is better to play a no risk game and give up on dating. No risk = no dates, it is safe!
I never risked anything. When I failed, I ended up alone. But that was no different from how I started so it was no loss overall.


If you say the wrong thing to the wrong person it could end up on one of those reddit threads, immortalizing you as a complete prat. Then there's always risk of it showing up to haunt you in life.


There's a reddit section that mocks such stuff? Which reddit?


r/inceltears



Oh I know this one, kara linked to it like a 1000 times already.


Btw there's r/muslimtears too



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20 Nov 2018, 10:50 am

One has to believe that one's "involuntarily celibate" situation is not something which is necessarily permanent.

Forget all the figures. Forget all the 10,000s. Just pursue your interests. Having an interest in SOMETHING is 3/4's of the battle.

I was "involuntarily celibate" for long periods in my 20's. I always had a "faith" that this would change. I knew I had to not seem desperate to women. That's the most important thing: "not seeming desperate."



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20 Nov 2018, 11:27 am

I just found out what a "margarita" is. A "margarita" is a really nice, sincere woman.

I had a great-aunt named Marguerite. I don't know how sincere she was. I do know she taught piano, and tuned pianos as well.



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20 Nov 2018, 11:36 am

magnetowasright wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
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NTS do not have Autism and they do not understand. NTS are from a position of advantage in regards to social and emotional intelligence that are critical in regards to forming friendships and relationships. Autistics are shunned from society due to their lack of social and emotional intelligence. Female Autistics often can hide emotional and social skills and still form friendships and relationships with NTs. Autistc males do not have the ability to hide their lack of social and emotional intelligence, they are effectively shunned from society and treated as social pariahs.


If you hate your symptoms so badly, why don't you treat them? :?

*shrug* I'll never understand why people here complain, complain, complain that they can't stand abc and xyz symptom and how they affect their life, yet they're unwilling to consider treating them and seeing if they feel better.

To each their own, I suppose.

I made my choice over 5 years ago & have less than zero regrets about it. Life is night and day better in every way.


Autism is not treatable. All experts in neurology agree on this.



So why does therapy still exist for it? How do autistic people even get better? How many autistic people have actually succeeded in life? Obviously it is treatable or they would stay the same as they were as children.


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20 Nov 2018, 11:38 am

Like the Common Cold, Autism is treatable, but incurable.



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20 Nov 2018, 11:39 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I just found out what a "margarita" is. A "margarita" is a really nice, sincere woman...
More definitions for Margarita/Margarhita...

• A cocktail consisting of tequila, orange liqueur, and lime juice often served with salt on the rim of the glass. The drink is served shaken with ice, blended with ice, or without ice. (Wikipedia)

• A Daisy: An herbaceous plant of strong stem, abundant leaves and terminal flowers of yellow center and white circumference. Flower of this plant, in the form of a rosette with a yellow center and white petals. (Google Translate)

• A piece of a typewriter or a printer that serves to print and in which all signs are found; It has a disk shape. (Google Translate)

• A totally sexy, young, blonde, beautiful girl whom everyone loves. She is caring, sweet, has a cute laugh, and practically every guy is in love with her. She is athletic and has amazing talents in almost everything. (Urban Dictionary)

• The largest island in the Venezuelan state of Nueva Esparta, situated off the northeastern coast of the country, in the Caribbean Sea. The capital city of Nueva Esparta, La Asunción, is located on the island. Primary industries are tourism, fishing and construction. (Wikipedia)

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20 Nov 2018, 2:38 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I just found out what a "margarita" is. A "margarita" is a really nice, sincere woman.


The way my detractor was using the term was different. He made this stupid and baseless assumption of me wanting a "second hand blender" as if the woman was a slave, not someone kind and smart at all. :roll:



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20 Nov 2018, 4:05 pm

magnetowasright wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Unfortunately no one is more bigoted against incels than incels themselves. They have declared that they are hopeless and can never enter into a relationship.

If incels were not so bigoted against themselves they would never give up on themselves. If they got rejected by ten thousand girls, they would ask out ten thousand and one.


And how do you suggest I ask out ten thousand women when all the women where I live are already taken?


Using a dating site. Mostly single women. They are a few swingers on dating sites but you can filter them out in search settings.


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