Bigotry against involuntarily celibate men

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20 Nov 2018, 4:09 pm

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Unfortunately no one is more bigoted against incels than incels themselves. They have declared that they are hopeless and can never enter into a relationship.

If incels were not so bigoted against themselves they would never give up on themselves. If they got rejected by ten thousand girls, they would ask out ten thousand and one.


And how do you suggest I ask out ten thousand women when all the women where I live are already taken?


Do you live in a small Eskimo village?


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20 Nov 2018, 4:12 pm

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He's also not considering the emotional toll 10,000 rejections would take on someone when they get nowhere, ever. Success gives you confidence and continual failure does the opposite. Itd be hard enough to ask 100 girls out and receive only rejection.
No one said it would be easy man.


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Plus, what are the odds of anyone ever meeting 10,000 women they are compatible with? Many of the people I encounter in my life, both men and women, are so mind-numbingly boring or outright idiotic it makes my brains almost ooze out of my ears if I have to stay around them for any length of time.
You won't find 10,000 women you're compatible with. You ask them out on dating sites. Less than 1% will go out with you. Of those less than one in ten will be compatible. How are you supposed to know if you're compatibke with someone before you've even spoken to them?


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10,000 is in the neighborhood of the average number of all humans (women, men, LGBTQ, children, etc...) I would meet over the span of several years.
Yes, over several years. Not all in one night.


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20 Nov 2018, 6:15 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:
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Unfortunately no one is more bigoted against incels than incels themselves. They have declared that they are hopeless and can never enter into a relationship.

If incels were not so bigoted against themselves they would never give up on themselves. If they got rejected by ten thousand girls, they would ask out ten thousand and one.


And how do you suggest I ask out ten thousand women when all the women where I live are already taken?


Using a dating site. Mostly single women. They are a few swingers on dating sites but you can filter them out in search settings.


I've been on every dating site you can think of: Match, Eharmony, Adult Friend Finder, OKCupid, etc...

In my experience, very few of the women on these sites are serious at all. In fact, dating sites use a shady marketing tactic where they keep inactive profiles appearing as active in order to look like they have more members than they actually do. Have you ever noticed that everything you visit a dating it makes you sign up and upload photos before you can do anything else? That is because they want to create as many profiles as possible to market their site as bigger than it actually is. And the few women in my area who are real and serious are all looking Christian men. Out of the thousands I've messaged in the past ten years, at most seven agreed to actually meet me. And none of them wanted a second or third date after that.



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20 Nov 2018, 6:18 pm

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Unfortunately no one is more bigoted against incels than incels themselves. They have declared that they are hopeless and can never enter into a relationship.

If incels were not so bigoted against themselves they would never give up on themselves. If they got rejected by ten thousand girls, they would ask out ten thousand and one.


And how do you suggest I ask out ten thousand women when all the women where I live are already taken?


Do you live in a small Eskimo village?


I live in a Conservative Bible Belt state where the culture encourages everyone to get married as soon as they graduate high school, so if you're still single by 25 at the latest you're out of luck. And even in the rare event that I do meet somebody in my age range who is still single, she won't want anything to do with anyone who isn't a Christian.



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20 Nov 2018, 6:27 pm

magnetowasright wrote:
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Unfortunately no one is more bigoted against incels than incels themselves. They have declared that they are hopeless and can never enter into a relationship.

If incels were not so bigoted against themselves they would never give up on themselves. If they got rejected by ten thousand girls, they would ask out ten thousand and one.


And how do you suggest I ask out ten thousand women when all the women where I live are already taken?


Do you live in a small Eskimo village?


I live in a Conservative Bible Belt state where the culture encourages everyone to get married as soon as they graduate high school, so if you're still single by 25 at the latest you're out of luck. And even in the rare event that I do meet somebody in my age range who is still single, she won't want anything to do with anyone who isn't a Christian.


You said a mouthful. Even Bible Belt women who don't have a problem with sex before marriage still won't date non-Christians even though they are behaving no differently than the secular women they claim they are above. Why even call yourself a Christian if you aren't going to uphold the teachings of the bible? It makes no sense to me.

That's another thing that makes me a non-incel. Most incel men want a theocracy and the ones who live in liberal states hope they can move to the Bible Belt because they think it's an utopia. The harsh truth is that those so-called "good Christian girls" are still going to reject them because they don't have a sex life going back to their preteens like the jerks do.



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20 Nov 2018, 6:50 pm

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Maybe if involuntarily celibate men would not complain so much about being involuntarily celibate, their involuntary celibacy would come to an end.

1. Causes all women read this forum :roll:
2. So if I stopped complaining I’d magically become wealthy ? Bet not



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20 Nov 2018, 6:51 pm

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One has to believe that one's "involuntarily celibate" situation is not something which is necessarily permanent.

Forget all the figures. Forget all the 10,000s. Just pursue your interests. Having an interest in SOMETHING is 3/4's of the battle.

I was "involuntarily celibate" for long periods in my 20's. I always had a "faith" that this would change. I knew I had to not seem desperate to women. That's the most important thing: "not seeming desperate."


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20 Nov 2018, 6:53 pm

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From a survival perspective for an Autistic male it is better to play a no risk game and give up on dating. No risk = no dates, it is safe!
I never risked anything. When I failed, I ended up alone. But that was no different from how I started so it was no loss overall.


If you say the wrong thing to the wrong person it could end up on one of those reddit threads, immortalizing you as a complete prat. Then there's always risk of it showing up to haunt you in life.


There's a reddit section that mocks such stuff? Which reddit?


r/inceltears



Oh I know this one, kara linked to it like a 1000 times already.


Btw there's r/muslimtears too


There’s liberaltears too
But come on boo you know people will take stuff rom dating sites and post them
There’s magazine articles and blogs dedicated to finding loser men then posting their interactions as examples



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20 Nov 2018, 6:56 pm

So you're going top avpoid onine dating because you might say something embarrassing and then some might screenshot it and put it on reddit.

Better not go outside either because someone might see you do something embarrassing.


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20 Nov 2018, 8:08 pm

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So you're going top avpoid onine dating because you might say something embarrassing and then some might screenshot it and put it on reddit.

Better not go outside either because someone might see you do something embarrassing.

No I’m
Just saying it’s something that does happen and if you are worried about it then act accordingly



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20 Nov 2018, 8:08 pm

Personality disorders involve very rigid and maladaptive perceptions of oneself and other people. Everything gets set into stone somewhere during adolescence or early childhood and from then on your behavior and mindset in different situations is pretty predictable and always self-sabotaging, never learning from mistakes and growing personally.

It's actually good for incels to never have been approached by women because for a person like that it's really unsettling and illogical that as soon as you and your classmates hit puberty the very same girls who shunned you before are now hitting on you big time. A damaged person can only resolve this mental conflict by rationalizing that the girls are just cruelly duping him into thinking they actually liked him so that they can embarrass him in front of everyone. Then the damaged person either ignores the hints or acts like a total rear end in a top hat, and either way will soon find out that he just screwed up big time and will grow up to be an even more bitter sadsack than if no one ever actually had shown any interest.



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20 Nov 2018, 8:43 pm

^^^It doesn't have to be that way.

Any sort of "damage" can be fixed. Even emotional damage. That's why we have therapists. That's why we have friends.

A car is rear-ended. The car is damaged. Is the damage permanent?

I was bullied when I was young. I was a nonverbal autistic until I was 5 years old. I was a fat sad-sack kid of guy later my childhood. Glasses, braces, and fat!! !! ! And I was damaged.

But I fixed it.....by not letting this crap get embedded in my soul.



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20 Nov 2018, 8:53 pm

sly279 wrote:
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So you're going to avoid onine dating because you might say something embarrassing and then some might screenshot it and put it on reddit.

Better not go outside either because someone might see you do something embarrassing.

No I’m
Just saying it’s something that does happen and if you are worried about it then act accordingly


Yes it could happen to you. Will your life be over? No. No it won't. The potential benefits outweigh the risks.


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20 Nov 2018, 9:17 pm

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NTS do not have Autism and they do not understand. NTS are from a position of advantage in regards to social and emotional intelligence that are critical in regards to forming friendships and relationships. Autistics are shunned from society due to their lack of social and emotional intelligence. Female Autistics often can hide emotional and social skills and still form friendships and relationships with NTs. Autistc males do not have the ability to hide their lack of social and emotional intelligence, they are effectively shunned from society and treated as social pariahs.


If you hate your symptoms so badly, why don't you treat them? :?

*shrug* I'll never understand why people here complain, complain, complain that they can't stand abc and xyz symptom and how they affect their life, yet they're unwilling to consider treating them and seeing if they feel better.

To each their own, I suppose.

I made my choice over 5 years ago & have less than zero regrets about it. Life is night and day better in every way.


Autism is not treatable. All experts in neurology agree on this.



So why does therapy still exist for it? How do autistic people even get better? How many autistic people have actually succeeded in life? Obviously it is treatable or they would stay the same as they were as children.

It's not curable though. I think that's what he meant.



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20 Nov 2018, 9:19 pm

The Common Cold is not curable, either.....



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20 Nov 2018, 9:58 pm

I see my autism as "penance" for some unfortunate things I did in previous lifetimes. I was forced into the Holland scenario in order to get my attention, to stop and think, my previous lifetimes were not stop and think ones.