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04 Mar 2016, 5:18 pm

Haven't read all 41 pages but it sounds pretty simple to me. If you want to find a good partner as a woman ideally you're young and attractive. So that rules out a lot of women. Meanwhile all men are looking for a partner and age is less relevant here, because it just is. So you have a lot of men chasing after a smaller group of women. Supply and demand, women get to be picky (at least for a while) and men have to try hard.



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04 Mar 2016, 5:19 pm

Stop with this "a relationship doesn't make your life better"...."a relationship isn't the solution" type of thing, this is a very false logic that I keep seeing here.

Wanting a relationship is a very basic human thing, just because someone's life isn't easy or not well put together, doesn't mean he/she would stop wanting a relationship.



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04 Mar 2016, 5:20 pm

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Why a well put together life is a must-be perquisite for wanting a relationship? It is not.

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04 Mar 2016, 5:39 pm

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Don't know if the question has been posed yet, but all the guys longing for dates: is it just for the physical aspects or do you want the emotional aspects? I was just wondering - maybe that has an influence on the way women respond.

Another question: a few responses mentioned not having your life together as a reason for rejection. Relationships are complex. If life itself is already hard, how do you think a relationship would factor into the daily grind?

Not trying to be rude at all, these are genuinely questions from an objective point of view. I'm just trying to understand human nature - men in general. You might think us women are hard to understand, but that works both ways ;).

Thanks!

Maybe you should ask a non-aromantic woman. The idea that a relationship will make life harder also seems ridiculous to me. Maybe the problem is our culture makes it that way. People make things hard when they don't have to be. People living in third world slums with no running water still have relationships and families. People have never stopped reproducing because "life is too hard already". :roll:

I think isolationism is a first-world invention. It's not natural.



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04 Mar 2016, 5:41 pm

If I just looked merely for the "physical," I wouldn't have gone out with most of my girlfriends.

Something else other than the mere "physical" turns me on.



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04 Mar 2016, 5:47 pm

Darn the captcha thing deleted my reply earlier :x Here's the correct version.

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Don't know if the question has been posed yet, but all the guys longing for dates: is it just for the physical aspects or do you want the emotional aspects? I was just wondering - maybe that has an influence on the way women respond.

Another question: a few responses mentioned not having your life together as a reason for rejection. Relationships are complex. If life itself is already hard, how do you think a relationship would factor into the daily grind?

Not trying to be rude at all, these are genuinely questions from an objective point of view. I'm just trying to understand human nature - men in general. You might think us women are hard to understand, but that works both ways ;).

Thanks!

Maybe you should ask a non-aromantic woman. The idea that a relationship will make life harder also seems ridiculous to me. Maybe the problem is our culture makes it that way. People make things hard when they don't have to be. People living in third world slums with no running water still have relationships and families. People have never stopped reproducing because "life is too hard already". :roll:

I think isolationism is a first-world invention. It's not natural.



I might be aromantic, but being dismissive won't facilitate an attempt at understanding.

First off, those third world 'relationships' are usually pre-arranged and don't usually have much to do with romance. Reproduction under those circumstances isn't always voluntary and doesn't always end well cf. China / India where they kill off the girls to avoid dowries.

My point was that relationships are work, they require communication and compromise. Many relationships fall apart because people aren't willing to put in said work. Those fairy tale idea's of perfection through relationships are just that, fairy tales.

So, if few aspects of a person's life are in order (job - social circle - perspectives for the future), why would that person want to bring another quite unpredictable factor into the situation? That was my question. It's like people having babies to save a marriage. Why not find stability within first and then add the relationship, so you can afford to focus on it. I was simply hoping for any type of clarification. Sadly, received none though.

And yes, some people (e.g. me) prefer isolation in a romantic sense, however I am not isolated. I have a small but amazing group of friends who are loyal and kind. My colleagues are amazing and supportive. My family is wonderful.

Finally, I see you didn't answer the first part of my question. Was this intentional? Or did you answer it in an indirect fashion by referring to reproduction (i.e. the physical aspect)?


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If I just looked merely for the "physical," I wouldn't have gone out with most of my girlfriends.

Something else other than the mere "physical" turns me on.


For me it would have to be both as well! But then I would have to be ready to take 'the plunge' first ;)



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04 Mar 2016, 6:34 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Stop with this "a relationship doesn't make your life better"...."a relationship isn't the solution" type of thing, this is a very false logic that I keep seeing here.

Wanting a relationship is a very basic human thing, just because someone's life isn't easy or not well put together, doesn't mean he/she would stop wanting a relationship.


I didn't say that people for whom "life isn't easy or not well put together" wouldn't want or even have a relationship. I said that relationships are hard sometimes. And they don't always make things better ... why is that false logic? Boo, do you really buy into this prince and princess ride into the sunset of endless happiness crap? It's all mythology.



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04 Mar 2016, 6:38 pm

I don't totally buy into the prince and princess riding off into the sunset thing, either.

But it's a nice ideal, though. It's something to aspire towards.

Relationships are not a panacea. They can be a real pain in the tushey. But they do have their benefits.



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04 Mar 2016, 6:48 pm

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I don't totally buy into the prince and princess riding off into the sunset thing, either.

But it's a nice ideal, though. It's something to aspire towards.

I disagree. I think it sets unrealistic expectations and leaves most people disappointed. I think society would be healthier if it was accepted that it is the exception not the rule for relationships to be successful.



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04 Mar 2016, 6:53 pm

I can't exist merely thinking about what's in front of me.

Because most things that are in front of me at present aren't really pleasant.

I like to think beyond the Mundane. Because the Mundane, most of the time, is unpleasant.

Even though Santa Claus, obviously, can't get into houses which have no chimneys, I still believe in the IDEA of Santa Claus.

That's just me.



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04 Mar 2016, 6:57 pm

^I believe in Santa and the Spirit of Christmas! :D

I've been reading a great book called 'Don't Sweat The Small Stuff In Love.' If there was one book about relationships that I would read on a regular basis, it would be that one. I highly recommend it! :)


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04 Mar 2016, 9:46 pm

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Haven't read all 41 pages but it sounds pretty simple to me. If you want to find a good partner as a woman ideally you're young and attractive. So that rules out a lot of women. Meanwhile all men are looking for a partner and age is less relevant here, because it just is. So you have a lot of men chasing after a smaller group of women. Supply and demand, women get to be picky (at least for a while) and men have to try hard.

This post is very confusing. Women get to be picky, or a smaller group of women get to be picky? Can't have it both ways if the stuff you say before it is true.



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05 Mar 2016, 1:55 am

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I might be aromantic, but being dismissive won't facilitate an attempt at understanding.

Sorry for sounding harsh. I guess I'm just a bit envious of people like you who don't understand chronic loneliness or depression. It is an extremely painful state.

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My point was that relationships are work, they require communication and compromise. Many relationships fall apart because people aren't willing to put in said work. Those fairy tale idea's of perfection through relationships are just that, fairy tales.

So what. Everything in life is work. Just being alive is work. Hell, just getting out of bed in the morning is work. To have something rewarding is what makes all this "work" worth it. Otherwise you might as well just die. It's not a matter of "work" as much as a matter of having a reason to want to live.

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So, if few aspects of a person's life are in order (job - social circle - perspectives for the future), why would that person want to bring another quite unpredictable factor into the situation? That was my question. It's like people having babies to save a marriage. Why not find stability within first and then add the relationship, so you can afford to focus on it. I was simply hoping for any type of clarification. Sadly, received none though.

I don't get why one's life has to fit the perfect cookie-cutter mold before they are worthy of emotional closeness with someone else. Some people will never have those things to their satisfaction.

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And yes, some people (e.g. me) prefer isolation in a romantic sense, however I am not isolated. I have a small but amazing group of friends who are loyal and kind. My colleagues are amazing and supportive. My family is wonderful.

You are lucky then. A lot of people here don't really have those things. I have a few friends, sure, but I don't see them or interact with them often enough. I think maybe women have more closeness with other women than men have with other men. That might explain a lot of the difference.

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Finally, I see you didn't answer the first part of my question. Was this intentional? Or did you answer it in an indirect fashion by referring to reproduction (i.e. the physical aspect)?

It isn't physical (in the sense of sex) for me. I'm asexual actually. The person I'm in love with is on the other side of the world from me currently (unfortunately).



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05 Mar 2016, 3:44 am

MsV wrote:
Darn the captcha thing deleted my reply earlier :x Here's the correct version.

marshall wrote:
MsV wrote:
Don't know if the question has been posed yet, but all the guys longing for dates: is it just for the physical aspects or do you want the emotional aspects? I was just wondering - maybe that has an influence on the way women respond.

Another question: a few responses mentioned not having your life together as a reason for rejection. Relationships are complex. If life itself is already hard, how do you think a relationship would factor into the daily grind?

Not trying to be rude at all, these are genuinely questions from an objective point of view. I'm just trying to understand human nature - men in general. You might think us women are hard to understand, but that works both ways ;).

Thanks!

Maybe you should ask a non-aromantic woman. The idea that a relationship will make life harder also seems ridiculous to me. Maybe the problem is our culture makes it that way. People make things hard when they don't have to be. People living in third world slums with no running water still have relationships and families. People have never stopped reproducing because "life is too hard already". :roll:

I think isolationism is a first-world invention. It's not natural.



I might be aromantic, but being dismissive won't facilitate an attempt at understanding.

First off, those third world 'relationships' are usually pre-arranged and don't usually have much to do with romance. Reproduction under those circumstances isn't always voluntary and doesn't always end well cf. China / India where they kill off the girls to avoid dowries.

My point was that relationships are work, they require communication and compromise. Many relationships fall apart because people aren't willing to put in said work. Those fairy tale idea's of perfection through relationships are just that, fairy tales.

So, if few aspects of a person's life are in order (job - social circle - perspectives for the future), why would that person want to bring another quite unpredictable factor into the situation? That was my question. It's like people having babies to save a marriage. Why not find stability within first and then add the relationship, so you can afford to focus on it. I was simply hoping for any type of clarification. Sadly, received none though.

And yes, some people (e.g. me) prefer isolation in a romantic sense, however I am not isolated. I have a small but amazing group of friends who are loyal and kind. My colleagues are amazing and supportive. My family is wonderful.

Finally, I see you didn't answer the first part of my question. Was this intentional? Or did you answer it in an indirect fashion by referring to reproduction (i.e. the physical aspect)?


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If I just looked merely for the "physical," I wouldn't have gone out with most of my girlfriends.

Something else other than the mere "physical" turns me on.


For me it would have to be both as well! But then I would have to be ready to take 'the plunge' first ;)




RIGHT YOU ARE! :thumright:



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05 Mar 2016, 9:30 am

Androbot, It is a false logic to keep encouraging guys to not seek for relationships just because their life is hard and things aren't put togother for them; their life might always remain hard.

and no guy on wp ever said that a gf will solve all problems, it's you and msv who are putting words in their mouths.

Also a relationship doesn't have to be a prince/princess thing nor has to be a disaster, there's a whole world between those two extremes.

Just because you never had a meaningful long term and only FWBs, doesn't mean that other people don't get in long term marriages/relationships, most people get married, and more than half stick to a spouse.



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05 Mar 2016, 9:41 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
...and no guy on wp ever said that a gf will solve all problems, it's you and msv who are putting words in their mouths.


The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Stop with this "a relationship doesn't make your life better"...."a relationship isn't the solution" type of thing, this is a very false logic that I keep seeing here.

It's your mouth.

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Also a relationship doesn't have to be a prince/princess thing nor has to be a disaster, there's a whole world between those two extremes.

Just because you never had a meaningful long term and only FWBs, doesn't mean that other people don't get in long term marriages/relationships, most people get married, and more than half stick to a spouse.

Just because you think a relationship is the solution, doesn't mean everyone does.