21 Nov 2018, 3:48 am
auntblabby
Veteran
Joined: 12 Feb 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 114,579
Location: the island of defective toy santas
21 Nov 2018, 3:51 am
rdos wrote:
DreamerDawn wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
I ran just about every day for decades until my joints gave out. 
That's a long term side effect, but otherwise you can't go wrong
You don't have to run to keep fit. Walking & dancing works just as well, mostly without wearing your joints down as running do.
modified core exercises in-place, as well as vigorous walking are what I can do now. not without discomfort, however
auntblabby
Veteran
Joined: 12 Feb 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 114,579
Location: the island of defective toy santas
21 Nov 2018, 3:54 am
DreamerDawn wrote:
rdos wrote:
DreamerDawn wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
I ran just about every day for decades until my joints gave out.
That's a long term side effect, but otherwise you can't go wrong
You don't have to run to keep fit. Walking & dancing works just as well, mostly without wearing your joints down as running do.
There are lots of good ways to stay fit without running. Walking and dancing do work well, but there's also:
1. Drinking water, cut out fizzy fatty drinks. Fizzy drinks can also lead to you feeling low and depressed after drinking them.
2. Cut out junk food.
3. Get enough sleep. Don't stay up watching things in bed. And most importantly be as positive as you can be. Negativity and low willpower only makes things worse for you and your health. I still have depression but actually feel a lot happier and more relaxed since I started keeping fitter
i'm not perfect but my diet would make my typical neighbor cry and run away [mostly brown rice and soup leavened with a bit of tunafish]. no sugar for me. restricted salt. no oils other than fish oil caps. strictly limited starches [no 'taters and corn and breads/pastas]. being fit[ter] does make it easier for me to smile than when I was not. at my age, however, it is tough to sleep as much as I would like, I am lucky if I get 6 hours solid.
21 Nov 2018, 3:56 am
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
You're shooting yourself in the foot looking at people this way, it's a big reason why incels are as unhappy and lonely as they are. They think about people all wrong and so their interactions with people go wrong and they fail to make any deep connections because they keep everyone at arms length with these ridiculous ideas about people's "market value" and sexist gender roles like men must always approach and chase women.
It's not that men must always initiate, it's that women seldom do, so if I want a relationship and no one initiates anything with me, my only option is to take the initiative. As for your contention with the concept of sexual market value, you're allowed to believe that, but the way I see it every relationship, friendship, and work relationship is transactional in nature. There's give and take, and if you have nothing to give you're going to be overlooked. If you disagree, explain the logic behind why.
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
But by all means, continue to ignore people who tell you this and keep beating your head against that brick wall and crying into the abyss about "Why doesn't it work? Why aren't women attracted to me?" Since that seems to be more satisfying to most incels than actually trying something that might work.
I already have a pretty good idea of why women aren't attracted to me, and I'm taking steps to rectify the things that hinder my chances with women, for instance my weight and physique are not only likely not attractive to most women, but I dont like them either, so I'm limiting my intake of junk food and trying to get more exercise into my life. But sure, I'm not trying something that might work.
It's good that you're trying to take better care of yourself and that will surely increase your chances, but you should be aware that keeping the mindset of all human interaction being transactional is going to be a problem for a lot of women and decreases your chances. Why not work on your perspective too, try to be less negative about humanity, if that can increase your chances as well?
I don't know how to explain to you why I believe that all human interaction is not transactional. I don't even know how to explain to you how my relationship with my pets isn't transactional. It's not about exhanging goods or information, it's about coexisting with them. Same to be said about friends and loved ones--yes we support each other and there is "give and take" in that, but it's not transactional in nature. It's about coexisting. There is something about the connection you make with someone when you are on the same wavelength that can't be explained in terms of transactions. It affirms your very existence in a way no transaction of goods or services can. When you share mental and emotional space with other people, it feeds your spirit in a way that is not a giving or a taking but rather a lifting up. I don't know how else to word it to explain my "logic", because it's esoteric and I don't know how logic in general can be applied to human interaction.
I really struggle to understand this transactional mindset, so it's hard for me to explain what it's like not to feel that way about relationships.
If relationships aren't transactional, then how come "what do you have to offer" and "you need to improve yourself so you have something to offer" are such common phrases in these kinds of discussions? Kind of implying a transaction there. Those are the first things I ever see when a guy complains about being lonely. The idea of simply "connecting" with somebody is rarely brought up.
Starbuck never commented on this. Perhaps that means she found nothing therein to object to.
I guess posts that can't be twisted into personal attacks or sexism must be rather boring to some people.
Or maybe I'm trying to stay out of the conversation since I got nothing but hostility for my comments?
"Some people"--that's cute, are you trying to be subtle to avoid breaking the rules by making a direct personal attack by talking about me obliquely like this?
Incels push women away with hostility and rage and sexism and then have the gall and lack of self-awareness to complain that women won't talk to them or date them. I'm not going to continue a conversation here if you guys can't even be civil.
With all due respect, I'm not trying to date you, so I'm not fussed if I turn you away. Also, you just proved my point exactly. You somehow twisted that comment into "hostility and rage and sexism", which is all you seem interested in. I've never called myself an incel or followed their ideology, Retrogamer couldn't be called an incel by anybody, neither of us were being uncivil, and yet now you've decided it's a personal attack, when all we did was question your intentions on this thread. Only then do you seem interested in having a "conversation", of course still ignoring my original post. So yeah, congrats on proving all you want to do is paint men as villains while ignoring any attempt at having an actual conversation. Great job.
21 Nov 2018, 4:37 am
21 Nov 2018, 7:06 am
RetroGamer87
Veteran
Joined: 30 Jul 2013
Age: 37
Gender: Male
Posts: 11,082
Location: Adelaide, Australia
21 Nov 2018, 7:07 am
21 Nov 2018, 7:28 am
RetroGamer87
Veteran
Joined: 30 Jul 2013
Age: 37
Gender: Male
Posts: 11,082
Location: Adelaide, Australia
21 Nov 2018, 7:41 am
Chances are you're not as ugly as Jono Lancaster and he's married!
21 Nov 2018, 7:52 am
21 Nov 2018, 8:17 am
The_Face_of_Boo
Veteran
Joined: 16 Jun 2010
Age: 42
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 33,095
Location: Beirut, Lebanon.
21 Nov 2018, 2:47 pm
The_Face_of_Boo
Veteran
Joined: 16 Jun 2010
Age: 42
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 33,095
Location: Beirut, Lebanon.
21 Nov 2018, 2:53 pm
21 Nov 2018, 5:00 pm
21 Nov 2018, 5:02 pm
21 Nov 2018, 5:05 pm
