More Thought on Incels.

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Doesn't being an Alpha Male have as much or more to do with having "game" as it does with looks?

In this age of phone chat, messaging is just chatter. A girl is just as likely to be bored as a male and can engage in messaging as a safe, anonymous way to interact with men and many might enjoy the attention. It hardly means there is any higher chance for sex for the unattractive male.

Sure, buddy.

That has absolutely nothing to do with my point. Stop using your misunderstanding of a particular study to describe the behavior of all women.

err sure...next time you don't need to slam the door in my face.

Looks first, "game" second.

An average guy with "game" may do okay. An ugly guy with "game" is beyond help.

With being an alpha man, looks get you in the door. And, of course, there's positive reinforcement. Alpha males have little reason to not be confident, as their looks have taken them places most can't go. So, of course they have "game" and confidence.

Looks trump all. Don't ever believe women are less visual than men. If anything, they're more so...

And you don't need to pull numbers out of your a$$ and make up nonsense to dunk on women.

Where did I pull numbers? and why are you making this personal? I was talking about the post you were referring and offering a possible reason.

How do you know? Just seems an awful lot to assume she would 'hate' you and call you a friendless loser if she figured you weren't an alpha male. I think in these kinds of threads people forget women are individual people, and not some collective hive mind with all the same attitudes and preferences.

She was very "rough around the edges": sported sleeve tattoos, dropped F-bombs frequently, and seemed to have a "take no prisoners" attitude. Although, the hug she gave me at the end of the first night felt soft and cozy. When I had breakfast with her and her friend the morning after I first met her, I got a more down-to-earth impression of her. So maybe she's nicer than she came off the night before, and life just dragged her over the coals, causing her to act jaded. Then again, she organized social gatherings later during the cruise, some of them at my initiation, like a fierce trooper! And if my online learning tells me anything, women like her have an extremely low tolerance for beta males.

Consider the girls I talked to on a city bus the night before my cruise. They saw me taking pictures out of bus windows instead of just sitting in my seat, which a fairly weird behavior even for California. (I was headed to a restaurant to get fish tacos for dinner, since all there was by my hotel was fast food chains.) So they tried to rag me "wow, you're a photographer!" But when I answered with nonchalance and snottiness "it's my first time in California", they instantly changed their tune and engaged me in a sincere conversation. Heck, they'd probably have joined me for dinner if I invited them. Basically, they saw a man acting beta/weird, and tried to intimidate him. But when he suddenly showed alpha traits, they had no choice but to be nice.

Prior to debarkation, me and the cruise woman exchanged Facebook contacts, and talked after getting home. That's when I found out she was engaged. Which makes me wonder what her fiance (probably now husband) is like. Is he an alpha male she persuaded to commit to her, or a beta male she settled down with for a stable life?

Well as far as the whole looks are important to women, I've been trying to be more physically fit lately and loose weight, but my gf seems to think it's a bit of a turn off, saying that I am fine and no need to worry or be insecure about it.

So that makes me wonder, do women like a guy who is not in shape as much, because it shows me is secure with who he is, or is this an exception to a more general rule and most women are not like this?

Wait a moment, So you have a younger 10/10 supermodel looking G/F who is turned off at the idea of you (her B/F) losing weight and exercising??

seems so, or at least she wants me to be more confident and more secure about how am I now, rather than looking better. Wonder if women do not care so much about looks then therefore.

Well certainly not this one. It is unusual however.

Well I talked to her about it and she said it herself that she would go for an ugly guy if he was nice, over the more abusive ones, she takes in order to get sex. So why don't incels go for women like this then?

First, her definition of "ugly" may be different than yours. Second, AND MOST IMPORTANT, don't listen to what a woman says. Observe what she actually does.




You're in the passable camp. Not super hot. Not super ugly (ugly = incel). Your fat girlfriend would never go for an ugly incel, despite what she says. She's thinks you're okay looks-wise. She's afraid if you lose more weight, you may be able to attract women who are better looking than she is. So, she likes you the way you are.

If you're already good-looking to women, getting better looking may make them afraid that they'll lose you. Stop assuming your personal experience in UNIVERSAL. You lack empathy for truly ugly men. You're not ugly to these fat women who find you desirable and are afraid of losing you if you get even better looking. But, please, stop assuming what applies to you applies to all.

You royally SUCK when it comes to empathy. It's almost disgusting in a way.

Oh I wasn't talking about my gf, but a friend of mine. Sorry, how do I suck for empathy? I was just trying to come up with possible resolutions to the incel problem. Does that make me unempathetic?