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17 Jan 2010, 7:14 pm

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I have been in two relationships in the past, and I base my criteria on those two relationships.

My first girlfriend was an NT and she cheated on me because she found a guy with a nicer car.

My second girlfriend, an Aspie who didn't like the Simpsons and South Park, thought premarital sex was a mortal sin, and that sex should only be for procreation.


Two people isn't really a good sample size!



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17 Jan 2010, 8:31 pm

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As for me, I'm not picky. As long as she's not too young (18 at the youngest) or too old (no more than 12 years older), is 100% faithful, loyal, and honest, loves me and accepts me for who I am, the rest of the details don't matter much.
NTs don't roll that way. There is never 100%. Even aspies don't react that way, though they'd like to think in black and white.

Relationships take a lot of time and effort for NTs, and much more for us. Lets be realistic... most of us have problems making non-internet friends, much less seriously dating. So lets be realistic. Lower the expectations. No black and white. Lets shoot for, say, 30%.

Now the problem becomes where and how to meet people, and keep their interest.



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17 Jan 2010, 9:19 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
I have been in two relationships in the past, and I base my criteria on those two relationships.

My first girlfriend was an NT and she cheated on me because she found a guy with a nicer car.

My second girlfriend, an Aspie who didn't like the Simpsons and South Park, thought premarital sex was a mortal sin, and that sex should only be for procreation.


Okay shouldn't you be looking for someone non materialistic and shallow who actually loves YOU as opposed to a diagnosis/traits of an autistic?

Do you think an autistic won't cheat on you? How do you know this?

Why do you care if your girlfriend likes the Simpsons and South park? It really only needs to be an issue if you really like it and she won't let you watch it.



17 Jan 2010, 9:43 pm

I talk to an autistic online and he loves to cheat on his wife. It turns him on and he cheated on his ex wives. He does it because he wants sex and his wife won't have it with him. Right now he is chatting to a gal online whom he hasn't met up with yet.



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17 Jan 2010, 10:03 pm

I think because it's harder for us to find partners (compared to NTs), we are less inclined to do anything that would put a relationship in jeopardy. We are often afraid that the person will leave, and that if that happens, we may never meet anyone else.


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17 Jan 2010, 10:04 pm

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People who like the Simpsons and South Park have no problem with sex outside of marriage, or oral sex, or fetishes.

People who don't like the Simpsons and South Park are waiting until marriage, and think sex should only be for procreation.


???????????? What are you talking about? Is this a joke? I have not been here long enough to get a sense of it, but you simply must be joking because like or dislike of those shows could not possibly reflect on a person's own sexual ideology.

Do you know how many women are frigid and cold, regardless of enjoying South Park? A recent publication cited nearly 40% of women disliking sex (forget the study or methodology / university - it was picked up on AP)- - I literally could not believe it, it's so sad!! And the argument was: Can we even consider this a "condition" when almost half of the women could care less?

We don't have a sex-positive culture in this country, lots of women are cold fish. And lots of men are "educated" by male-centric porn and completely inadequate to the understanding of female physiology and sexuality. This country is completely screwed up, no pun intended, around this. And unfortunately - I also know women who like sex and don't participate in oral sex (either way) if they aren't pressured. People are raised with negativity about sex and that's that. You are talking about an utterly individual phenomenon based on personal values, open, sex positive upbringing, etc. Zip to do with South Park!! ! I think you could make a fairly solid argument about religious upbringing, but that's not the topic here. (Also, lots of cold non-religious girls, and probably boys too)

If you want a girl who is sexual and your goal is to not to get stuck with someone cold: Look for someone sensual. Look for how open she is with physical affection, watch her body language. And do not be rigid, cold and harsh yourself - - or that's what you'll attract. This has bupkis to do with Simpsons.



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17 Jan 2010, 10:14 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
I have been in two relationships in the past, and I base my criteria on those two relationships.

My first girlfriend was an NT and she cheated on me because she found a guy with a nicer car.

My second girlfriend, an Aspie who didn't like the Simpsons and South Park, thought premarital sex was a mortal sin, and that sex should only be for procreation.


If you were to base your decisions in urban planning, science, or anything else on the basis of two experiences, you would be roasted for failing to do sufficient research. If you are going to base your future off those to experiences, you will continue to have problems.


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17 Jan 2010, 10:46 pm

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NTs don't roll that way. There is never 100%. Even aspies don't react that way, though they'd like to think in black and white.

Relationships take a lot of time and effort for NTs, and much more for us. Lets be realistic... most of us have problems making non-internet friends, much less seriously dating. So lets be realistic. Lower the expectations. No black and white. Lets shoot for, say, 30%.

Now the problem becomes where and how to meet people, and keep their interest.


I mean someone that will never cheat on me.



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17 Jan 2010, 11:23 pm

TheMinnesotaIceman wrote:
KnightGhost wrote:
NTs don't roll that way. There is never 100%. Even aspies don't react that way, though they'd like to think in black and white.

Relationships take a lot of time and effort for NTs, and much more for us. Lets be realistic... most of us have problems making non-internet friends, much less seriously dating. So lets be realistic. Lower the expectations. No black and white. Lets shoot for, say, 30%.

Now the problem becomes where and how to meet people, and keep their interest.


I mean someone that will never cheat on me.

Then don't give them a reason. That solves the possibility for most people.



17 Jan 2010, 11:27 pm

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I think because it's harder for us to find partners (compared to NTs), we are less inclined to do anything that would put a relationship in jeopardy. We are often afraid that the person will leave, and that if that happens, we may never meet anyone else.



For you it's because of your rigid criteria for women.



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17 Jan 2010, 11:43 pm

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17 Jan 2010, 11:52 pm

And what if I am wanting more of a friend-with-benefits situation?

I think that may be more up my alley, but I was afraid to mention it.


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18 Jan 2010, 12:00 am

Don't worry, just make friends as you see they are. Any one will do...


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18 Jan 2010, 12:06 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
I think because it's harder for us to find partners (compared to NTs), we are less inclined to do anything that would put a relationship in jeopardy. We are often afraid that the person will leave, and that if that happens, we may never meet anyone else.


Why? I don't think this is true at all. The world isn't divided into aspies and NTs who have specific traits.

Tim_Tex wrote:
People who like the Simpsons and South Park have no problem with sex outside of marriage, or oral sex, or fetishes.

People who don't like the Simpsons and South Park are waiting until marriage, and think sex should only be for procreation.


What the hell are you talking about? Sorry but LOL... guess the world of sexual desire is divided up into who likes the simpsons and south park :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

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Tim_Tex wrote:
People who like the Simpsons and South Park have no problem with sex outside of marriage, or oral sex, or fetishes.

People who don't like the Simpsons and South Park are waiting until marriage, and think sex should only be for procreation.


???????????? What are you talking about? Is this a joke? I have not been here long enough to get a sense of it, but you simply must be joking because like or dislike of those shows could not possibly reflect on a person's own sexual ideology.

Do you know how many women are frigid and cold, regardless of enjoying South Park? A recent publication cited nearly 40% of women disliking sex (forget the study or methodology / university - it was picked up on AP)- - I literally could not believe it, it's so sad!! And the argument was: Can we even consider this a "condition" when almost half of the women could care less?

We don't have a sex-positive culture in this country, lots of women are cold fish. And lots of men are "educated" by male-centric porn and completely inadequate to the understanding of female physiology and sexuality. This country is completely screwed up, no pun intended, around this. And unfortunately - I also know women who like sex and don't participate in oral sex (either way) if they aren't pressured. People are raised with negativity about sex and that's that. You are talking about an utterly individual phenomenon based on personal values, open, sex positive upbringing, etc. Zip to do with South Park!! ! I think you could make a fairly solid argument about religious upbringing, but that's not the topic here. (Also, lots of cold non-religious girls, and probably boys too)

If you want a girl who is sexual and your goal is to not to get stuck with someone cold: Look for someone sensual. Look for how open she is with physical affection, watch her body language. And do not be rigid, cold and harsh yourself - - or that's what you'll attract. This has bupkis to do with Simpsons.


oh my god i'm just about falling off my chair in FITS of laughter here :lmao:
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18 Jan 2010, 12:08 am

I honestly think the OP needs to work on himself inside and out before even thinking about a long term relationship. He has twisted values and skewed views on things, and also has to improve his physical appearance to the best of his ability. Note, I'm not saying that he's ugly, I'm saying that, would he date an overweight, ho hum looking woman with a bad haircut that had a bad attitude and a skewed interpretation of things? If he would, he already would have found her. He's said he doesn't want to settle.



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18 Jan 2010, 1:37 am

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I honestly think the OP needs to work on himself inside and out before even thinking about a long term relationship. He has twisted values and skewed views on things, and also has to improve his physical appearance to the best of his ability. Note, I'm not saying that he's ugly, I'm saying that, would he date an overweight, ho hum looking woman with a bad haircut that had a bad attitude and a skewed interpretation of things? If he would, he already would have found her. He's said he doesn't want to settle.


Partly what I'd say on this is that his standards aren't his fault - we are what we are. Like anyone in that position though, the best you can hope for is making yourself more marketable and past that - if that's not enough - he just has to do these things, as you said earlier, for himself to make his life more bearable. There are no guarantees on anything and just like any idiot can land someone, you have plenty of great people out there who can't find a worthwhile relationship to save their lives. I think two of the biggest problems for everyone are a) the fairy tales you're handed as a kid and b) society saying that you've egregiously failed at life if you live and die single; both are considerably off point because they utterly fail to take the reality of the human condition, human nature, and the red tape that we're all swimming in into any real account.


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