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20 Jul 2010, 12:39 pm

Let's give this a ranting a go then.

I don't understand why some girls go for the good-turn to abusive boys? Surely, experience should teach them, not to "play with fire", again? Unless they like it, I see no reason why these girls should be precautious.

Also, why can't some boys learn to "let go" of a girl to the point of stalking them? Clearly that's not right.

Rant over. I'm not that bothered to be honest. :D



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20 Jul 2010, 5:15 pm

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Where does it say you have to do the emotional commitment? Because tv and movies said so?


What's wrong with that? Only bedding those you are emotionally attached to makes it less likely for you to obtain an STD anyway. I would feel guilty if I had sex with someone I didn't love but maybe that's because I'm a girl. XD


Erisad: Don't worry. So would I, and I'm a guy. Maybe I'm atypical for my gender. In my family, my parents have been married for more than 30 years, my grandparents more than 50. Maybe I get my monogamous values from them. And not from the media, that encourages people to go out and do it with as many people as you possibly can. :roll:

Ricky: Because I said so. I'd like to think humans are slightly more evolved than animals who would just mate with anything that didn't say no.



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20 Jul 2010, 6:00 pm

Adam82 wrote:
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Where does it say you have to do the emotional commitment? Because tv and movies said so?


What's wrong with that? Only bedding those you are emotionally attached to makes it less likely for you to obtain an STD anyway. I would feel guilty if I had sex with someone I didn't love but maybe that's because I'm a girl. XD


Erisad: Don't worry. So would I, and I'm a guy. Maybe I'm atypical for my gender. In my family, my parents have been married for more than 30 years, my grandparents more than 50. Maybe I get my monogamous values from them. And not from the media, that encourages people to go out and do it with as many people as you possibly can. :roll:


You're not alone, sir. My brother is the exact same way but that's because mom raised him to be a good boy. ^_^

Yeah. My parents divorced after 7 years and I know my grandmother would still be married to her husband were he still alive. I just don't see the value in spontaneous sex with a stranger. For me, the physical pleasure is magnified ten-fold if it's with someone I love. So yeah. Yaaaaay monogamy!



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20 Jul 2010, 6:21 pm

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Where does it say you have to do the emotional commitment? Because tv and movies said so?


I can't say that I have ever been in love. I have been with a few women (all NT), but at least in one case, I broke it off due to guilt that she was falling in love with me and I wasn't falling in love with her. So if I did have an unquenchable thirst for sex, I think I would definitely consider the prostitute route if I couldn't get it any other way.



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20 Jul 2010, 8:14 pm

KaiG wrote:
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Though I wouldn't go so far as to advise purchasing sex, I do think that for guys at least the idea of "saving" their first time for someone important is a bad idea. For one, male virginity is not a prized commodity, and past a certain age it actually can be a liability that might frighten that "special" someone off because it makes you seem strange and can come off as creepy. More than anything though, I think prolonged virginity can lead to anxiety from dwelling on the subject and lead to a sort of vicious cycle where in anxiety about sex makes it even harder to approach a potential partner which just makes the anxiety worse.

Again though, I'm not necessarily saying go out and rent a girlfriend, more that one shouldn't turn down a first sexual experience on the grounds of waiting for the right person. If nothing else, the first time for a male is inevitably short and awkward; wouldn't you rather know what you're doing when that special someone comes along?


Because I actually have emotions. I can't just say 'you'll do' and make an emotional commitment to just anybody. I can't seperate sex and love. They are part of the same parcel to me. It has to be someone special.


Where does it say you have to do the emotional commitment? Because tv and movies said so?

You know, people are allowed to have their own opinions on things.


Doesntmean I have to agree.



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20 Jul 2010, 8:18 pm

Adam82 wrote:
Erisad wrote:
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Where does it say you have to do the emotional commitment? Because tv and movies said so?


What's wrong with that? Only bedding those you are emotionally attached to makes it less likely for you to obtain an STD anyway. I would feel guilty if I had sex with someone I didn't love but maybe that's because I'm a girl. XD


Erisad: Don't worry. So would I, and I'm a guy. Maybe I'm atypical for my gender. In my family, my parents have been married for more than 30 years, my grandparents more than 50. Maybe I get my monogamous values from them. And not from the media, that encourages people to go out and do it with as many people as you possibly can. :roll:

Ricky: Because I said so. I'd like to think humans are slightly more evolved than animals who would just mate with anything that didn't say no.


Good for you then. I just don't see a point in sacrificing my own enjoyment for the sake of some lame and unrewarding ideal. I used to be a lot like you until I got sick of not getting any results from being nice and caring.



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20 Jul 2010, 8:21 pm

A female point of view... a male being a virgin never bothered me. Once or twice , before 25 I think, I dated a guy who was a virgin, was late 30s... big deal. Its actually good in a way as you know the guy cant have picked up any STDs from anywhere.

Also, a male can always lie about virginity. He can say "Yeah, Ive had sex but I was pretty drunk, it was quite hazy."


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20 Jul 2010, 9:48 pm

RICKY5 wrote:
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Where does it say you have to do the emotional commitment? Because tv and movies said so?


What's wrong with that? Only bedding those you are emotionally attached to makes it less likely for you to obtain an STD anyway. I would feel guilty if I had sex with someone I didn't love but maybe that's because I'm a girl. XD


Erisad: Don't worry. So would I, and I'm a guy. Maybe I'm atypical for my gender. In my family, my parents have been married for more than 30 years, my grandparents more than 50. Maybe I get my monogamous values from them. And not from the media, that encourages people to go out and do it with as many people as you possibly can. :roll:

Ricky: Because I said so. I'd like to think humans are slightly more evolved than animals who would just mate with anything that didn't say no.


Good for you then. I just don't see a point in sacrificing my own enjoyment for the sake of some lame and unrewarding ideal. I used to be a lot like you until I got sick of not getting any results from being nice and caring.


Hmm, yeah, I'll have to agree with you on that point. Being nice and caring has never got me anywhere in life.



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20 Jul 2010, 9:50 pm

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A female point of view... a male being a virgin never bothered me. Once or twice , before 25 I think, I dated a guy who was a virgin, was late 30s... big deal. Its actually good in a way as you know the guy cant have picked up any STDs from anywhere.

Also, a male can always lie about virginity. He can say "Yeah, Ive had sex but I was pretty drunk, it was quite hazy."


I'm glad to hear this. I always thought of it being a social stigma, an instant deal breaker. I'm glad there's women out there that don't judge you based on your experience (or lack thereof).



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20 Jul 2010, 9:52 pm

Erisad wrote:
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Where does it say you have to do the emotional commitment? Because tv and movies said so?


What's wrong with that? Only bedding those you are emotionally attached to makes it less likely for you to obtain an STD anyway. I would feel guilty if I had sex with someone I didn't love but maybe that's because I'm a girl. XD


Erisad: Don't worry. So would I, and I'm a guy. Maybe I'm atypical for my gender. In my family, my parents have been married for more than 30 years, my grandparents more than 50. Maybe I get my monogamous values from them. And not from the media, that encourages people to go out and do it with as many people as you possibly can. :roll:


You're not alone, sir. My brother is the exact same way but that's because mom raised him to be a good boy. ^_^

Yeah. My parents divorced after 7 years and I know my grandmother would still be married to her husband were he still alive. I just don't see the value in spontaneous sex with a stranger. For me, the physical pleasure is magnified ten-fold if it's with someone I love. So yeah. Yaaaaay monogamy!


Good on you! I like you. Don't just give it away to some stranger. :)



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20 Jul 2010, 9:53 pm

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Its actually good in a way as you know the guy cant have picked up any STDs from anywhere.

Not quite true. Certainly it's less likely, but you can contract particular STDs by other means.



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20 Jul 2010, 10:15 pm

Erisad wrote:
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Where does it say you have to do the emotional commitment? Because tv and movies said so?


Only bedding those you are emotionally attached to makes it less likely for you to obtain an STD anyway.


That's a common misconception.



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20 Jul 2010, 11:29 pm

Adam82 wrote:
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Erisad wrote:
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Where does it say you have to do the emotional commitment? Because tv and movies said so?


What's wrong with that? Only bedding those you are emotionally attached to makes it less likely for you to obtain an STD anyway. I would feel guilty if I had sex with someone I didn't love but maybe that's because I'm a girl. XD


Erisad: Don't worry. So would I, and I'm a guy. Maybe I'm atypical for my gender. In my family, my parents have been married for more than 30 years, my grandparents more than 50. Maybe I get my monogamous values from them. And not from the media, that encourages people to go out and do it with as many people as you possibly can. :roll:

Ricky: Because I said so. I'd like to think humans are slightly more evolved than animals who would just mate with anything that didn't say no.


Good for you then. I just don't see a point in sacrificing my own enjoyment for the sake of some lame and unrewarding ideal. I used to be a lot like you until I got sick of not getting any results from being nice and caring.




Hmm, yeah, I'll have to agree with you on that point. Being nice and caring has never got me anywhere in life.


So why do you keep following the same pattern?



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21 Jul 2010, 2:41 am

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Its actually good in a way as you know the guy cant have picked up any STDs from anywhere.

Not quite true. Certainly it's less likely, but you can contract particular STDs by other means.


Yes, but the chances are slim, unless he has been cavorting with an alien from Xortec-5.


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A female point of view... a male being a virgin never bothered me. Once or twice , before 25 I think, I dated a guy who was a virgin, was late 30s... big deal. Its actually good in a way as you know the guy cant have picked up any STDs from anywhere.

Also, a male can always lie about virginity. He can say "Yeah, Ive had sex but I was pretty drunk, it was quite hazy."


I'm glad to hear this. I always thought of it being a social stigma, an instant deal breaker. I'm glad there's women out there that don't judge you based on your experience (or lack thereof).


Yes, there are. And only women who wont judge you are worth your time.


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21 Jul 2010, 5:15 am

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Hmm, yeah, I'll have to agree with you on that point. Being nice and caring has never got me anywhere in life.


There are right and wrong ways to be 'nice' and caring.


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