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Do you feel sympathetic for somebody who can not have sex?
Yes - and I am a man 51%  51%  [ 23 ]
No - and I am a man 11%  11%  [ 5 ]
Yes - and I am a woman 16%  16%  [ 7 ]
No - and I am a woman 22%  22%  [ 10 ]
Total votes : 45

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15 Sep 2010, 7:05 am

Yasmine wrote:
But sympathy seem to entail more. It seems to say that you are missing something that is your right or you have suffered a wrong. Nothing is farther from the truth. No one has a right to have sex. Ever.


That simply is not what I meant at all. Is there another way of asking the question?



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15 Sep 2010, 7:13 am

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Do you feel sympathetic for somebody who can not have sex?

no.
i have my own problems to worry about. i have $2150 in traffic fines to pay, and i just can not bring myself to do it. i have the money and i know that if i do not pay them, the situation will escalate and i will owe much more money, but i just can not get around to paying them even though it is just a few mouse clicks that i have to perform.

people's problems with sex is the last thing on my mind. in fact, it is not on my mind at all.



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15 Sep 2010, 7:14 am

JohnisBlind wrote:
Erisad wrote:
Even though I don't have sex by choice, I feel bad for those who can't when they want to. Now I don't feel sympathetic for those who bash women/men because they can't get any sex. :/



It sounds like you are able to think outside of your own personal experience to consider how other people who have different experiences. That is called empathy.


Yaaaay empathy! :D

I'm sure you were asking more for sympathy than empathy but close enough right? >.>



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15 Sep 2010, 7:16 am

b9 wrote:
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Do you feel sympathetic for somebody who can not have sex?

no.
i have my own problems to worry about. i have $2150 in traffic fines to pay, and i just can not bring myself to do it. i have the money and i know that if i do not pay them, the situation will escalate and i will owe much more money, but i just can not get around to paying them even though it is just a few mouse clicks that i have to perform.

people's problems with sex is the last thing on my mind. in fact, it is not on my mind at all.


Expensive traffic fines are worse than not having sex. That is a very clear reason for not caring about sex. Thank you for that.



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15 Sep 2010, 7:44 am

Erisad wrote:
JohnisBlind wrote:
Erisad wrote:
Even though I don't have sex by choice, I feel bad for those who can't when they want to. Now I don't feel sympathetic for those who bash women/men because they can't get any sex. :/



It sounds like you are able to think outside of your own personal experience to consider how other people who have different experiences. That is called empathy.


Yaaaay empathy! :D

I'm sure you were asking more for sympathy than empathy but close enough right? >.>


Sometimes the difference between the two is a matter of semantics.



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15 Sep 2010, 7:49 am

JohnisBlind wrote:
Erisad wrote:
JohnisBlind wrote:
Erisad wrote:
Even though I don't have sex by choice, I feel bad for those who can't when they want to. Now I don't feel sympathetic for those who bash women/men because they can't get any sex. :/



It sounds like you are able to think outside of your own personal experience to consider how other people who have different experiences. That is called empathy.


Yaaaay empathy! :D

I'm sure you were asking more for sympathy than empathy but close enough right? >.>


Sometimes the difference between the two is a matter of semantics.


Good enough. :D



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15 Sep 2010, 7:56 am

It's not about social skills, it's about genetic programming. We can't get girlfriends because we aren't supposed to.



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15 Sep 2010, 8:02 am

Feck. Its bigger than all of us.

Our kids will have disorders, so nature doesn't want us to breed?

I feel sad.



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15 Sep 2010, 8:06 am

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Feck. Its bigger than all of us.

Our kids will have disorders, so nature doesn't want us to breed?

I feel sad.


Exactly.



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15 Sep 2010, 8:09 am

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Feck. Its bigger than all of us.

Our kids will have disorders, so nature doesn't want us to breed?

I feel sad.


Nonsense, people with aspergers can perfectly healthy children.



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15 Sep 2010, 8:12 am

JohnisBlind wrote:
I notice the majority of woman say they are unsympathetic. Is that because they are uncaring?


I think it is because basic differences between men and women. I read somewhere that for men the longer they go without, the more they want it. Whereas with women it's the opposite. Therefore for a man involuntary celibacy is a big, big issue whereas for a woman it's a complete non-issue. A woman would find not being able to get her hair cut a bigger issue than not being able to have sex.

Also you need to consider the old adage that men have relationships in order to have sex, whereas women have sex in order to have relationships. In other words, how men feel about not getting sex isn't comparable to how women feel about not getting sex. How men feel about not getting sex is comparable to how women feel about not being in a relationship.

I don't know if I'm expressing this right.



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15 Sep 2010, 8:17 am

JohnisBlind wrote:
Surfman wrote:
Feck. Its bigger than all of us.

Our kids will have disorders, so nature doesn't want us to breed?

I feel sad.


Nonsense, people with aspergers can perfectly healthy children.



Yes, but we are still not genetically programmed to have sex, and therefor not children either.



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15 Sep 2010, 8:20 am

MotherKnowsBest wrote:
JohnisBlind wrote:
I notice the majority of woman say they are unsympathetic. Is that because they are uncaring?


I think it is because basic differences between men and women. I read somewhere that for men the longer they go without, the more they want it. Whereas with women it's the opposite. Therefore for a man involuntary celibacy is a big, big issue whereas for a woman it's a complete non-issue. A woman would find not being able to get her hair cut a bigger issue than not being able to have sex.

Also you need to consider the old adage that men have relationships in order to have sex, whereas women have sex in order to have relationships. In other words, how men feel about not getting sex isn't comparable to how women feel about not getting sex. How men feel about not getting sex is comparable to how women feel about not being in a relationship.

I don't know if I'm expressing this right.


Okay if that is what explains it.

For me I can't think of anything more important than being in a relationship.

But why do women value being in a relationship so much if the only reason that men want a relationship is sex? That doesn't sound like a true relationship to me.



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15 Sep 2010, 8:31 am

I think it's just the starting point. Also it's a generalisation so although it may be grounded in truth, it's not necessarily true for every man or woman. But at least it helps to understand a bit more the difference in your poll results.



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15 Sep 2010, 8:32 am

JohnisBlind wrote:
Expensive traffic fines are worse than not having sex. That is a very clear reason for not caring about sex. Thank you for that.

i do not believe you mean that.
i did not say i do not care about sex. i said i do not care about people that can not get sex.
you said that you are both socially incapable of getting sex as well as being physically
unable to have sex.

so why can you not have sex? do you have some disorder that precludes it? do you feel desire?

if you feel desire, then what physical disability do you have that prevents you from having sex?

i can not answer you because i do not know where you are coming from.

maybe you feel that it is a social trophy to be able to say you get sex even though you do not desire it due to some physical reason, or you may be saying that you are desiring of sex because you are aroused but you can not physically experience it because maybe you have lots of desire but no ability to get stiff and come.

i personally have little sex drive, but i do have some. i have some girls that sleep over when they come to my place, and they encourage me to kiss and love them, and i find it easy to do because they are beautiful in my mind. but if they were not here, i would never think of them because i do not have a need for sex when i am by myself.

whatever. i must stop this post because i am saying too much.



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15 Sep 2010, 8:57 am

JohnisBlind wrote:
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In the end and when all is said and done, it all comes down to a person's personal life. Sex is their business and nobody elses. All the abortion people and all the people who go on about STDs really need to shut up, its nothing to do with them. If I want sex, then sex I shall get. Its my choice if I chose to protect myself or not, its my choice whether I copulate with a white, a black or an Indian woman and its my choice if I want to continue seeing the person I am currently seeing.


I think you must have posted to the wrong thread Craig28. What would be your answer to the poll topic? And why?


I selected no. Due to personal experience, other people weren't sympathetic to my plight for sex. I may be an Aspie, but that doesn't mean I am going to kow tow and falsely smile to the world. I have feelings to and those people need to understand tha what they did to me was very dangerous, not just to my personal growth but to them also.