How to improve your chances with women.

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you are what wiccans call a psychic vampire
you know what that is?

Tim, the awkward ugly overweight guy getting the hot chick only happens in movies or if there's money involved. As it is, any guy with AS, regardless of physical attractiveness, is behind the eight ball already to the average NT woman...put sub-par looks on top of that, and it's the nail in the coffin.

The good news is, there's someone out there for everyone. There's an a-typical less-than-ideal looking girl that is into the same stuff as you.

Yes, I know what that means.
No, I am not flattered by your accusation.
Moreover, would standards really help my chances? I doubt it... look at tim.

Google it?

For real? That just suggests you have little or no objective knowledge of how it actually works in real life, and are working on either hearsay or personal emotional blocks.

my problem with you is, as mentioned, you seem to think your problems are worse then everyone elses, saying constantly how no one knows what its like and all that crap
in every thread I see you post in, you won't wake up until the cold hand of reality slaps you in the face, and it will, wither by me or the random act of fate
it will, it does to everyone
but you will only get happy if you want to change
and you don't
so you will never change

oh I could explain it
except I have already 3 god damn times!! !!
honestly people can't scroll up?! or go back a page or two
I am sick of explaining it over and over
go find it yourself

Kilroy, Halebopp explained it really well in plain english. People don't want to listen.

If all you want from the woman is a friendship (and deep down have no romantic or sexual interest in her whatsoever) and she treats you with respect, then that's a friend.

If you're friends with a woman and deep down want her as more, then you are a user. If she has no romantic interest in you, and just comes around to talk to you with her relationship problems and what happened on sex and the city, then she's a user. If both are occurring at the same time, you're both users.

Normally women don't ask men for relationship advice unless they view him as feminine or beta. There are exceptions...Jerry and Elaine type of relationships where "anything goes" conversation wise...but friend zone refers to those where a woman uses a mentally weak man to vent about her problems.

Fair enough dude. I have no reason to go back again and look for it because I've seen no reason to believe you and I are on the same page with this definition. I think there was a misunderstanding with my first post in here that I was asking you to explain; I was not addressing you, but rather whoever responded to my post with what I quoted. You can read back yourself if you want to clarify that, and if I was unclear on my quoting I apologize. Agree to disagree.

I like Seinfeld, I have a Jerry-Elaine friendship with a girl
we do need a George and a Kramer though...
lol

I can see people don't want to listen and instead jump on their white knight horses and yammer about how they "disagree" with something they seem to think I made up

I wasn't pissed at you, just in general at so many who simply refused to read what I had written and just started yammering about nothing

The thing that pisses me off is the ugly awkward guy that wants the hot girl syndrome. I've heard a lot on this board, not just from Tim, "They're just human beings, too", "I have things to offer", "She's no better than me." Look at it this way, you're a really hot NT girl. You have all sorts of guys hitting on you, including good looking/charasmatic guys. Are you going to choose him, or are you going to go for the overweight awkward guy because "he isn't a bad person and doesn't have a criminal record?"

I'm sure many of the same men complaining wouldn't give an obese woman a chance even if she was a great person and had a compatible personality.

and my problem with you is that you feel the need to take your anger out on everyone over the slightest provocation. I've been there before as a kid, and it didn't do me wonders to make me a guy that people liked. Plus I had a Kanye complex, in which I thought I was the greatest kid in the school and loved by everyone. You're a little late with your cold hand of reality... I was slapped in the face years ago, and my delusions of childhood were shattered and all I behold now is the reality that you claim as the illusion. It is you that needs said hand to slap you off your self-righteous perch as it did to me all those years ago...

I would...

That is, if she was willing to give me a chance...

shame your friend gave you crap advice. maybe if you explained as above your friend would have you back.

i agree it's nonsense. only being friends does not equal "just using someone for emotional support."

friendship is precisely for emotional support. that's why people have friends.

if two people have different agendas they are going to blame each other if they don't get what they want. but a friendship with an agenda is not a friendship.

sorry to whomever i offended above. i wanted to give the perspective as it might be from the other side, not to imply that men do not genuinely befriend women. of course they do and can and can make great friends. it's simply absurd to coin a phrase for using a man for friendship.. when it could just as easily be interpreted as cruel or exploitive to befriend a woman whose friendship is not really what you want. what is the word for that? there isn't one, as we don't assume it is ill-intentioned or claim we've been "f*ck zoned" or something when men go cold on our friendships suddenly. imagine how that would feel?

most people are decent at heart if utter crap at communicating. no one can know you are waiting for something or expecting it if you don't say so.

oh ho ho, see I don't really care about that, you have no idea what sort of past I have had
there are a lot of worse off people here, people who have gotten past their problems and became happy and live good lives.
People who don't let the past ruin their future, you are just sour and bitter who things the world needs to kiss your ass because it was mean to you
most every one of us had f****d up sh***y child hoods/adolescences and often times adult hoods, but you, seem to think you are the worst done by, you live in a delusion.

I went threw all the same crap you did, and I can find a lot more, you aren't so special, you just think you are
self righteous? no, I just am sick of you going around and acting like no one else matters

Biostructure doesn't want people with furry/coated tongues.