She's Pure, He's a Loser : The Sexual Double Standard

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15 Mar 2011, 6:57 am

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I like this analogy. :lol:


I hate this analogy. But it does a very good job of illustrating what the problem is. Women are expected to remain "locked" and if they don't, they are sh!tty (or slu*ty). Men are expected to "open many locks". It pits men and women against each other by requiring goals which are in opposition.



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15 Mar 2011, 11:41 am

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Well, I'm 28 and a male virgin. So I do feel stigmatized and inadequate sometimes. I've never even had a girlfriend.



Too each is own, I have a cousin and he is 24 and a virgin, he is completely happy, I on the other hand payed an escort for my 16th birthday because I was too fat to even get a kiss in school while other lucky kids were getting blow jobs in the bathroom in 5th grade.

Anyway, don't feel stigmatized and inadequate, take life IN YOUR OWN HANDS, put yourself out there, call an escort! It's not easy for a lot of people let alone Aspies, on the other hand you could probably go to some religious gathering ie church, temple and try to find a female who is also a virgin waiting for marriage and get married! I have hear that there are people like this but I haven't met any.



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15 Mar 2011, 11:46 am

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I think the only reprieve from this is that, as you round your 30's and start associating with people - they can look at you and figure out pretty easily what's going on (ie. if its a guy who's still single and looks a certain way - they can put two and two together that there's nowhere else that guy could be even on his best efforts), I'm not sure if women get that same effect or understanding from others just on acquired world wisdom? It takes a while but people eventually come to grasp that we're all treated differently in ways that we ourselves can't control. Its hard to tell the exact source of the real battle - whether its us fighting personalities that are incredibly inconvenient for us to have or whether its us grappling with societies that have us isolated, perhaps thats six one and half a dozen the other.



You think women can look at you and figure you out, you are right that can look at you and judge you in seconds and they would never know what a great guy you are!! !! !! !! ! The only special connection some women have are with their children if they have formed a healthy bond, they can feel if something bad is happening...

I would say it's 80% our society that has isolated us.



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15 Mar 2011, 12:03 pm

I like this analogy. :lol:[/quote]

I hate this analogy. But it does a very good job of illustrating what the problem is. Women are expected to remain "locked" and if they don't, they are sh!tty (or slu*ty). Men are expected to "open many locks". It pits men and women against each other by requiring goals which are in opposition.[/quote]


This has been since the beginning of time, 10,000 years ago men had a detachable spine in their penis's to make sure that their female suitors could not reproduce with other males.
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Also look on your television, kim kardashian started her career in porn, she has many sexual encounters, suitors, paris hilton...... Many different reality shows, celebrity news, sitcom's, sex and the city, next, And in real life men worship porn stars, would marry them even though they don't like their precociousness. While this is not true for all it's true for most. I feel the double standard doesn't exist and if it does it has reversed. If you are interested in dating a girl and she thinks your a player because of a friend bad mouthing you, some pictures you have with friends that are girls on facebook....etc. , they won't even give you the time of day. The double standard was killed years ago!! !!

Now it's socially except able for a woman to have no strings attached sex hook ups boy toys dating a few men and chalking it off to indecision..... I don't date women like that, they turn me off, but after several months or years desperation wears you down and you lower your standards to date a slut. I would love it if I could meet & marry a virgin but that is almost statistically impossible! Society has changed so, ratio btwn men & women......



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15 Mar 2011, 4:31 pm

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You think women can look at you and figure you out, you are right that can look at you and judge you in seconds and they would never know what a great guy you are!! !! !! !! ! The only special connection some women have are with their children if they have formed a healthy bond, they can feel if something bad is happening...

I would say it's 80% our society that has isolated us.

I think what I was really getting at more is friends, family, and particularly other guys, in terms of the 'loser' label or push to be doing something different. The more they encounter an awareness that people are not all treated the same and that certain things that are possible for some are impossible for others - they generally have less to say on it.

As for women seeing whether you're a great guy or not - I don't think they care either way. Its not part of the math.


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05 Jul 2016, 6:03 pm

One of the greatest differences is being an older single female do not low your changes to get into a relationship, especially because usually is the male who usually approaches and the females who reject or accept, all what really depends is on her standards, it can be easier or harder getting into, it doesn't really matter how long the woman hasn't date someone,the only real difficult that she would have is to decide the guy that wants to date her and that's all, the opposite only happens if she allows it, that means, if she is the one who approaches men,in that case she would be giving the choice to the man, but this kind of conduct from woman is rare, especially because we know most men would have prejudice on woman like that and not be into the idea of a long time relationship.


Now, being an older male virgin is the worse, cuz the older the guy are, harder it gets for him to have sex without paying for it. Because woman would just reject the guy once she finds out he's a virgin, especially for causal sex. I've heard, not once, but several times women saying that would totally reject sex with a virgin guy. I have even heard a history from a ex co-worker from my old job that his first gf broke up with him once he told her he was an virgin, he was 23 at the time and I totally understand how he felt, good thing he told it to me, cuz if someone else find out about it he would be mocked to death, literally.

Anyway, that the biggest different, woman may be called names for not being into a relationship for long time, but not being into a relationship in some time won't low your chances to get into a new relationship as long as you have no unreal, impossible standards, while being an adult male and virgin, not only make people mock you and see you as a loser, but also, low your chances to have sex, especially when it comes to casual sex, it even gets higher the possibility of your girlfriend break up with you rather than having sex with you.



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06 Jul 2016, 12:41 am

Worthlessperson wrote:
One of the greatest differences is being an older single female do not low your changes to get into a relationship, especially because usually is the male who usually approaches and the females who reject or accept, all what really depends is on her standards, it can be easier or harder getting into, it doesn't really matter how long the woman hasn't date someone,the only real difficult that she would have is to decide the guy that wants to date her and that's all, the opposite only happens if she allows it, that means, if she is the one who approaches men,in that case she would be giving the choice to the man, but this kind of conduct from woman is rare, especially because we know most men would have prejudice on woman like that and not be into the idea of a long time relationship.


Now, being an older male virgin is the worse, cuz the older the guy are, harder it gets for him to have sex without paying for it. Because woman would just reject the guy once she finds out he's a virgin, especially for causal sex. I've heard, not once, but several times women saying that would totally reject sex with a virgin guy. I have even heard a history from a ex co-worker from my old job that his first gf broke up with him once he told her he was an virgin, he was 23 at the time and I totally understand how he felt, good thing he told it to me, cuz if someone else find out about it he would be mocked to death, literally.

Anyway, that the biggest different, woman may be called names for not being into a relationship for long time, but not being into a relationship in some time won't low your chances to get into a new relationship as long as you have no unreal, impossible standards, while being an adult male and virgin, not only make people mock you and see you as a loser, but also, low your chances to have sex, especially when it comes to casual sex, it even gets higher the possibility of your girlfriend break up with you rather than having sex with you.


Woe! This is an old topic to be resurrected. Anyhow, here's my thoughts on this! This double standard makes me angry! Personally, I think that any woman that would leave a man for being a vergin still no matter how old he is, is disgusting and shallow, and isn't worth a spit! Shame on her! I am proud to say, I'm not one of them!



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06 Jul 2016, 12:45 am

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Actually, one of my friends confessed to me not long ago that he was a virgin until his late 20's and had only one partner. I have enormous respect for that person right now.


I am curious, why do you have enormous respect for that person?



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06 Jul 2016, 12:47 am

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At least guys have an excuse "Oh he can't get laid, its not his fault".


I have never heard anyone use that excuse. Usually guys are totally blamed for not being able to have sex.



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06 Jul 2016, 12:58 am

I'm not going to add anything about it being the opposite side of the slut/stud double standard because plenty of people have, but I am adding that as a 23 year old virgin it's not really better.

Like people either are entirely turned off by it or are f*cking creepy and predatory about the whole thing (calling it a "precious gift" is just gross and creepy). And considering my lack of interest in changing it, I also get a lot of accusations of being cold and a prude and I do even get mocked for not having had sex.


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06 Jul 2016, 11:50 am

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