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18 Jul 2011, 5:46 pm

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The way I see it is that it's a great way to get rid of the anxiety of being a virgin and getting rid of that feeling of being "left out" since you are often f***ing girls who look just like the ones who rejected or "friendzoned" you when you were younger.


However, you'll just find out that you're left out in a different way. You'd be the only one who hasn't had sex with a girl without paying her immediately afterwards[/b]. Frankly, I think turning to a prostitute is pathetic and sad. I would have more respect for a guy that's a virgin waiting for a good relationship to happen than a guy who paid a hooker just so[ he wouldn't be picked on for being a virgin. :/


I never really felt "left out" afterwards since the guys I saw around me often were not particularly happy with the ups and downs of their relationships, so having one never really appealed to me after I lost my virginity.

KInda helps when you are banging girls far hotter than your acquaintances girlfriends could hope to be. :twisted:

I like the regularity and affection I get "paying for it" as opposed to the ups, downs, and sideways that come with girlfriends.

Virgins who wait do just that. Nothing ever happens when you wait. For most guys, instincts tell them to go out and get laid. If instincts are not satisfied they get redirected into places less than optimal.


Wow, you are a piece of work aren't you? I can't tell if you're trolling or are really that big of a misogynist. :/

Not necessarily. They can redirect that energy into their career or a hobby. It doesn't have to be some other form of deviancy. :/


SImply pointing out how so many of the male virgins on this board beat themselves up about this.


And they don't have to. Sex is so overrated I don't understand people's fascination with it. I guess it's different for guys. :/



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18 Jul 2011, 5:49 pm

Erisad wrote:
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Erisad wrote:
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The way I see it is that it's a great way to get rid of the anxiety of being a virgin and getting rid of that feeling of being "left out" since you are often f***ing girls who look just like the ones who rejected or "friendzoned" you when you were younger.


However, you'll just find out that you're left out in a different way. You'd be the only one who hasn't had sex with a girl without paying her immediately afterwards[/b]. Frankly, I think turning to a prostitute is pathetic and sad. I would have more respect for a guy that's a virgin waiting for a good relationship to happen than a guy who paid a hooker just so[ he wouldn't be picked on for being a virgin. :/


I never really felt "left out" afterwards since the guys I saw around me often were not particularly happy with the ups and downs of their relationships, so having one never really appealed to me after I lost my virginity.

KInda helps when you are banging girls far hotter than your acquaintances girlfriends could hope to be. :twisted:

I like the regularity and affection I get "paying for it" as opposed to the ups, downs, and sideways that come with girlfriends.

Virgins who wait do just that. Nothing ever happens when you wait. For most guys, instincts tell them to go out and get laid. If instincts are not satisfied they get redirected into places less than optimal.


Wow, you are a piece of work aren't you? I can't tell if you're trolling or are really that big of a misogynist. :/

Not necessarily. They can redirect that energy into their career or a hobby. It doesn't have to be some other form of deviancy. :/


SImply pointing out how so many of the male virgins on this board beat themselves up about this.


And they don't have to. Sex is so overrated I don't understand people's fascination with it. I guess it's different for guys. :/


It is very different for guys. DOuble standards cut both ways.



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18 Jul 2011, 5:51 pm

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@Boo men generally don't hire prostitutes for their attractiveness.


not all prostitutes are the streetwalker type (the one you posted),do you research about escorts and see how they look like.


anyways, I was just arguing that prostitution might also lead to unrealistic ...or maybe even to misled expectations.



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18 Jul 2011, 5:52 pm

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Too bad I'm not the only one telling you to stfu. I'm sure there's many other places where you can be a hypocrite and also be controversial and everyone would love it. This place is for real talk and real advice so until you have a but of either or better yet both then I recomend you try and keep quiet so you don't make yourself look dumber than you have so far



actually, in each of my posts you can replace "men" with "women" and I'll probably still agree with what I wrote there.

anyway, I'm trying to help the OP and probably shouldn't have responded to your idiot comment in the first place. from what I see all you contribute is negativity and bitterness anyway, so I recommend you quit trying to be supportive when you don't know how it's done. where is your advice? every post you made so far concerns only yourself.

Ohh look more hypocrisy.

I am helping the op by saying that losing his virginity to a prostitute is likely not to fix anything. He will likely still have the want for someone who isn't there just because she is getting paid but rather someone there because she likes him. If anything your advice has less stance than mine because you're deffinetly not one of the mentioned "angry virgins" who keep proping up in this forum. So until you have first hand experience in the manner I suggest you close your yapping factory as the market is overfilled.



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18 Jul 2011, 5:56 pm

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18 Jul 2011, 5:58 pm

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I think you confuse horny and lonely.

Not really. Read RICKY5's posts again, and tell me if you can find the word "virgin" and if you can get the context, as what I read is related with social pressure + social stigma + loneliness, the desire to experience intimacy and affection from the gender you are attracted to. You are being overly simplistic, ignoring other factors.



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18 Jul 2011, 6:01 pm

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18 Jul 2011, 6:01 pm

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It is very different for guys. DOuble standards cut both ways.


Of course. Double standards are always okay when they benefit men. Who cares if the woman enjoys it or is only doing it because she can't earn means any other way? After all, isn't she only there as a means for sexual pleasure for men? It's not like she has feelings or anything. :roll:



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18 Jul 2011, 6:02 pm

Erisad wrote:
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It is very different for guys. DOuble standards cut both ways.


Of course. Double standards are always okay when they benefit men. Who cares if the woman enjoys it or is only doing it because she can't earn means any other way? After all, isn't she only there as a means for sexual pleasure for men? It's not like she has feelings or anything. :roll:


Now now, women use men for sex too.



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18 Jul 2011, 6:04 pm

blunnet wrote:
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I think you confuse horny and lonely.

Not really. Read RICKY5's posts again, and tell me if you can find the word "virgin" and if you can get the context, as what I read is related with social pressure and the social stigma along with loneliness and the desire to experience intimacy with the gender you are attracted to. You are being overly simplistic.


I can't believe I'm jumping in to this RIDICULOUS, repeated ad nauseum argument, but here goes: you do not experience true intimacy with a prostitute. I feel sad that none of you seem to really get that. And Erisad, please do not lump all women into your giant "girls don't like sex" umbrella. I happen to LOVE it, and so does just about everyone I know, unless they're lying for some strange reason. When you get over your initial reactions to it and/or find a good partner, you may, too.

Take it from me, an old lady compared to most of you, who's been around the block a few times.



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18 Jul 2011, 6:06 pm

mv wrote:
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I think you confuse horny and lonely.

Not really. Read RICKY5's posts again, and tell me if you can find the word "virgin" and if you can get the context, as what I read is related with social pressure and the social stigma along with loneliness and the desire to experience intimacy with the gender you are attracted to. You are being overly simplistic.


I can't believe I'm jumping in to this RIDICULOUS, repeated ad nauseum argument, but here goes: you do not experience true intimacy with a prostitute. I feel sad that none of you seem to really get that. And Erisad, please do not lump all women into your giant "girls don't like sex" umbrella. I happen to LOVE it, and so does just about everyone I know, unless they're lying for some strange reason. When you get over your initial reactions to it and/or find a good partner, you may, too.

Take it from me, an old lady compared to most of you, who's been around the block a few times.


What exactly is true intimacy? Sounds more like a religious ideal.



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18 Jul 2011, 6:07 pm

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KInda helps when you are banging girls far hotter than your acquaintances girlfriends could hope to be. :twisted:

And some of the chicks in my pornos are hotter than your escorts. So what?

Honestly, if I had the choice between a nice homely girl and a nasty gorgeous one, I'm picking the nice one everytime.


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18 Jul 2011, 6:07 pm

mv wrote:
I can't believe I'm jumping in to this RIDICULOUS, repeated ad nauseum argument, but here goes: you do not experience true intimacy with a prostitute.

Did I make that claim? Answer: No.

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I feel sad that none of you seem to really get that.

Given that I didn't make such claim, I do get that.



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18 Jul 2011, 6:10 pm

RICKY5 wrote:
mv wrote:
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I think you confuse horny and lonely.

Not really. Read RICKY5's posts again, and tell me if you can find the word "virgin" and if you can get the context, as what I read is related with social pressure and the social stigma along with loneliness and the desire to experience intimacy with the gender you are attracted to. You are being overly simplistic.


I can't believe I'm jumping in to this RIDICULOUS, repeated ad nauseum argument, but here goes: you do not experience true intimacy with a prostitute. I feel sad that none of you seem to really get that. And Erisad, please do not lump all women into your giant "girls don't like sex" umbrella. I happen to LOVE it, and so does just about everyone I know, unless they're lying for some strange reason. When you get over your initial reactions to it and/or find a good partner, you may, too.

Take it from me, an old lady compared to most of you, who's been around the block a few times.


What exactly is true intimacy? Sounds more like a religious ideal.


RICKY5, I'd try to describe it to you, but I suspect that you, least of all, could understand it. I'm an atheist, so I don't subscribe to religious ideals of any sort... :wink:



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18 Jul 2011, 6:14 pm

mv wrote:
And Erisad, please do not lump all women into your giant "girls don't like sex" umbrella. I happen to LOVE it, and so does just about everyone I know, unless they're lying for some strange reason. When you get over your initial reactions to it and/or find a good partner, you may, too.

Take it from me, an old lady compared to most of you, who's been around the block a few times.


Trust me, I'm not the only girl that doesn't like it. And girls don't seem to be as distraught when they're a virgin in their mid-twenties. Something about being rammed in your nethers over and over sounds extremely painful and not fun. Besides, we have all the downsides of sex when things don't go smoothly. We can get ripped down there if he's too big, we can get pregnant and get mistaken for a prostitute if you just so happen to have multiple partners in the same way a guy would. How is a woman supposed to enjoy herself if all the risk is on her? :/

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Now now, women use men for sex too.


But they're much less rare than men using women for sex. Look at the prostitution industry. I've never heard of a male prostitute apart from in the Saturday Night Live skit and that was meant to be funny. And being a "whore" is apparently the worst thing a woman can be. If a man was a prostitute, I'm sure he would be embraced by his peers. :/



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18 Jul 2011, 6:19 pm

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If I cared about proving anything I'd have thrown some links your way. I don't, and I can't be bothered picking your straw man apart, sorry.

my argument was not a straw man - what i did was counter your false claims. there isn't any research to back up the validity of what you stated. i know this because i investigated it myself in some depth in the past.

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I think it was clear that I was talking about a hypothetical situation and comparing extremes. either way, my personal opinions on celibacy are not the point of this thread. the OP should do his own research. if he knows himself it will be an easy decision for him anyway. if he cares about my opinion, I say do it, and if a girl ever asks you about it, lie.

your hypothetical exteme situation didn't stand up to inspection. people and their behaviour don't exist as extremes, and your either/or example doesn't apply to real life at all.

i disagree with lying, and i would also say that lying about important matters in the context of a potential future relationship is not a recipe for success.

i didn't say anything about celibacy so i'm not sure where you are going with that.


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