Not all NT women are shallow gold digging b*tches

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06 Aug 2011, 10:58 am

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It's not stupid excuses. Who would go out with a slow, ugly, uneducated and lonely hermit that is extremely poor. If you didn't know who am I and saw me walking down a street , you'd give me a look like you'd just seen something disgusting.

Just come out and say it's me you're talking about. You don't have to hide behind vague statements. The reason I feel this way is because of people treating me a certain way all my life, and I don't see it changing unless people learn to accept me in society.

Firstly, all those negative things you say about yourself are what people are talking about when they suggest you have an "attitude" problem.

Yes, of course we have to play with the hand we've been dealt, but can you honestly say that you are the best "you" you can be? With that attitude, my guess would be "no".

Also, I'm sure there's a woman out there who feels exactly the same way about herself - what would happen if you were to meet her?

I realize you're probably just going to argue until people accept your view about yourself, in which case don't be too surprised if not to many people reply.

However, should you decide to step up an do something positive, you'll find plenty of people here willingnto help a support you.

It's your choice.

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06 Aug 2011, 12:26 pm

But I never call women "shallow" or "gold digging" or anything like that, and certainly don't apply that to the other gender.

Basically, the most logical argument that I can find is this:

That's what I apply to myself. Now, I need to figure out why i'm so unlovable...

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06 Aug 2011, 7:01 pm

cdfox7 wrote:

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

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If someone gives you a plan brown paper bag you might find a diamond inside it!

Maybe... and you may find another sh**.

Besides, most people wouldn't touch a sh**-coated paper bag.

We all make judgements on people's physical appearance quicker that making judgements on there personality.
Then you meet someone for the first irl in the first few seconds you make an judgement on there "outer beauty" there physical appearance, before taking the time to talk to that person to "see" there "inner beauty".

That can be summed up with this idiom, Never judge a book by its cover.

You do have a point with that. However , approaching a 'physically attractive' person is part hard wiring and part society induced. And scientifically speaking men in general are a bit more visually stimulated in relation to other things than women are.

Thing is the other aspects overriding the physical appearance usually happens after people have known each other outside a 'dating' situation. Not saying a person could approach someone that they are not normally attracted too and it could happen in reverse. Just that given real world scenarios it does not happen that much.

Example... I doubt any woman would give Gollum from LOTR a chance even if he were the most charming man in the world.

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06 Aug 2011, 7:29 pm

hale_bopp wrote:

It just goes to show how important attitude is when finding a girlfriend as well as personality, as opposed to "looks and money".

Lol, how does this help aspies? Aspergers primarily affects what people perceive as "personality", and from all the moaning from the males around here, I'd guess it's not exactly helping them out.

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06 Aug 2011, 7:48 pm

swbluto wrote:

hale_bopp wrote:

It just goes to show how important attitude is when finding a girlfriend as well as personality, as opposed to "looks and money".

Lol, how does this help aspies? Aspergers primarily affects what people perceive as "personality", and from all the moaning from the males around here, I'd guess it's not exactly helping them out.

As one of the biggest "moaners" around here, I agree with her completely.

I'm dealing with it by re-doubling my efforts to improve my self-esteem, and putting my romantic aspirations on the back burner (except of course for shameless flirting once in a while) :wink:

I guarantee that once I get myself back to a point where I think I'm "all that" I will be "all that", at least enough to attract and keep a quality partner.

Then I'll have a whole new set of problems to moan about... :wink:

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06 Aug 2011, 7:57 pm

Grisha wrote:

swbluto wrote:

hale_bopp wrote:

It just goes to show how important attitude is when finding a girlfriend as well as personality, as opposed to "looks and money".

Lol, how does this help aspies? Aspergers primarily affects what people perceive as "personality", and from all the moaning from the males around here, I'd guess it's not exactly helping them out.

As one of the biggest "moaners" around here, I agree with her completely.

I agree with the attitude and personality factors and their primary influence on dating/relationship ability, too, don't get me wrong, but the "personality" part seems to have negligible morale-boosting potential for those whose "personality" seems fundamentally handicapped, dating wise.

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06 Aug 2011, 8:32 pm

nichiren wrote:

Its fair to say that nature and nurture do have a role in that. Ok yes some men are visually perceptive to stimuli, I hear to side some women are auditory and/or kinesthetic perceptive. However If feel that gender is only one aspect of that as culture and up bringing do have a role with that. BTW am many kinesthetic perceptive to stimuli.

nichiren wrote:

Thing is the other aspects overriding the physical appearance usually happens after people have known each other outside a 'dating' situation. Not saying a person could approach someone that they are not normally attracted too and it could happen in reverse. Just that given real world scenarios it does not happen that much.

Example... I doubt any woman would give Gollum from LOTR a chance even if he were the most charming man in the world.

Ok your example of Gollum is fair tho you have discounted his split personality, he was a different person before having the Ring in the form the Sméagol persona. More suitable examples would be Caliban in Shakespeare's The Tempest and Alberich in Wagner's Der Ring des Nibelungen.

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06 Aug 2011, 10:05 pm

I imagine bitchy women digging shallow trenches in search of gold.

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06 Aug 2011, 10:38 pm

simon_says wrote:

I imagine bitchy women digging shallow trenches in search of gold.

Naw that'd require too much effort on their part.

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07 Aug 2011, 11:57 am

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Whether cultural role or not it is still how things work currently. And not saying things cannot work vice versa but even in a public environment the factor is stronger in men. And there is still the biological factor. Even some women who are doing well socioeconomically themselves will seek a male mate that is doing better. And that may be more important that how much she is physically attracted to him. Some men are more likely to take a woman making minimum wage as long as he finds her relatively attractive overlooking her socioeconomic status.

Of course there are plenty of exceptions , still the trend and aspect exists.

cdfox7 wrote:

Not really a big fan of either guy so I just used one I know.
Women still have their limits when it comes to being attracted to someone/

Main point is physical attractiveness does play a huge part in the relationship arena.
And no amount of personality or charm is going to change that especially in the realm of cold dating. Approaching a stranger to chat them up or ask them out. And that goes with all genders.

.....the gay people i have known seem to be way more picky than the heteros....

and as a man who can be referred to generally unattractive i can attest to being passed over for reasons other than my personality and other aspects. quite a few women have told me so online and off. lol

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08 Aug 2011, 3:41 pm

Yeah not ALL women are like that, but most women around my age (20-25) are shallow, conceited, and mean whores that like to sleep around with "hot and exciting guys" that they can brag to their friends about.

They're sinners and will get what's coming to them when it's time

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08 Aug 2011, 4:00 pm

MR20 wrote:

Yep everything that makes you feel resentful is a sin.

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08 Aug 2011, 4:00 pm

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An orgasm?

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08 Aug 2011, 4:01 pm

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MR20 wrote:

An orgasm?

:lol:

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08 Aug 2011, 4:10 pm

AceOfSpades wrote:

MR20 wrote:

Yep everything that makes you feel resentful is a sin.

Even though I'm resentful about a lot things, having sex w/o marriage and pride are real sins.

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08 Aug 2011, 4:10 pm

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MR20 wrote:

An orgasm?

No, hell

That wasn't funny, BTW

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