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21 Aug 2011, 4:04 pm

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Women treat me like a person, not like a man with a sexuality.


this should be enough for you. women don't owe you dates. you said yourself that you don't initiate conversations with women, so don't expect that they'll just throw themselves at you because you're "a man with a sexuality".

where do you all get this attitude from anyway? privileged much? spoiled by abundance? rich parents? I seriously don't get it :roll:

I won't answer that, because because of your tone, I think you don't care a bit about it. You haven't a clue. You are a woman, and therefore you do not know how it is to be an (autistic) man.

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all good things in life require hard work and won't be handed to you on a golden plate.

I am willing to work, but I want to get results as well. Nothing has to be handed to me on a golden plate. But what is the sense of working if it hasn't any result? I would think of giving up, unless someone (except you) come with a good advice.



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21 Aug 2011, 4:45 pm

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I am willing to work, but I want to get results as well. Nothing has to be handed to me on a golden plate. But what is the sense of working if it hasn't any result? I would think of giving up, unless someone (except you) come with a good advice.


cool story bro. didn't you say in the other thread that you're just waiting for women to approach you? seems to me that you're not working very hard then.

and no worries, I won't bother with giving advice. I don't believe anyone here really wants to be helped.

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You haven't a clue. You are a woman, and therefore you do not know how it is to be an (autistic) man.


oh wait, isn't this whole misogynist club founded on the idea that women don't date you guys out of mean-spiritedness? and how would you know that? have you ever been a woman?

when I see your BS I simply call it out. it's not personal. I wish you well and I wish you'd all just get girlfriends and stop making these depressing and pointless threads.


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21 Aug 2011, 4:54 pm

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I am willing to work, but I want to get results as well. Nothing has to be handed to me on a golden plate. But what is the sense of working if it hasn't any result? I would think of giving up, unless someone (except you) come with a good advice.


cool story bro. didn't you say in the other thread that you're just waiting for women to approach you? seems to me that you're not working very hard then.

...which proves you still don't have any clues. In my youth I tried more, but the only thing I got is getting humiliating results from girls and young women. In their eyes you are an autistic ret*d, no matter how hard you work.

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and no worries, I won't bother with giving advice.

As I expected. Your tone doesn't give me any illusions of getting any advice from you, you hatred woman.

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You haven't a clue. You are a woman, and therefore you do not know how it is to be an (autistic) man.


oh wait, isn't this whole misogynist club founded on the idea that women don't date you guys out of mean-spiritedness? and how would you know that? have you ever been a woman?

It is hard, but I try to imagine how it is to be a woman. Women can just sit and look and then choose. The hard work must be done (as women demand that) by men. Shy women have less problems because of that reason shy men have.

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when I see your BS I simply call it out. it's not personal. I wish you well and I wish you'd all just get girlfriends and stop making these depressing and pointless threads.

More realism at the side of women (the thoughts and myths they have about man) would definitely make things easier. I can just wish that, but that is far from the reality.



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21 Aug 2011, 6:09 pm

hans66 wrote:
You haven't a clue. You are a woman, and therefore you do not know how it is to be an (autistic) man.


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It is hard, but I try to imagine how it is to be a woman. Women can just sit and look and then choose. The hard work must be done (as women demand that) by men. Shy women have less problems because of that reason shy men have.

wait... so you think that we cannot imagine what it is like to be YOU, yet you think you can imagine what it is like to be US?

wrong. you really have no idea.

did you know that for every single man in existence, there is a single woman? so for all your flimsy assertions that women have it so easy, i could just as easily assert that men have it easy. because just as many men as women are pair bonded. both assertions are false and ridiculous, of course.

sure, there may be more autistic men than women who are single, simply because there are moe autistic men than women in existence. so who are these single women who never marry? are they fat? ugly? uneducated? less intelligent? depressed? whoever they are, they sure as hell have something working against them too, and they have massive challenges of their own.


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21 Aug 2011, 7:42 pm

I can understand how the thread creator actually feels because I feel pretty much the same way.

In the world we live in people really suck yes. When I look at the world around me I don't see love and compassion (or altruism), I see people being motivated by money and greed. Most people think only about their own success while ignoring others and treating you like you do not even exist and I believe that most women also have this altitute.

If you ask me I think this world is just cursed or something.



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21 Aug 2011, 10:16 pm

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sure, there may be more autistic men than women who are single, simply because there are moe autistic men than women in existence. so who are these single women who never marry? are they fat? ugly? uneducated? less intelligent? depressed? whoever they are, they sure as hell have something working against them too, and they have massive challenges of their own.


Now now, are you sexualziating us autistic men here?



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21 Aug 2011, 10:19 pm

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sure, there may be more autistic men than women who are single, simply because there are moe autistic men than women in existence. so who are these single women who never marry? are they fat? ugly? uneducated? less intelligent? depressed? whoever they are, they sure as hell have something working against them too, and they have massive challenges of their own.


Now now, are you sexualziating us autistic men here?

your question has no relation to my comment.


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21 Aug 2011, 10:43 pm

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sure, there may be more autistic men than women who are single, simply because there are moe autistic men than women in existence. so who are these single women who never marry? are they fat? ugly? uneducated? less intelligent? depressed? whoever they are, they sure as hell have something working against them too, and they have massive challenges of their own.


Now now, are you sexualziating us autistic men here?

your question has no relation to my comment.


Your avoiding my question with evasion tactics.



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21 Aug 2011, 10:44 pm

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sure, there may be more autistic men than women who are single, simply because there are moe autistic men than women in existence. so who are these single women who never marry? are they fat? ugly? uneducated? less intelligent? depressed? whoever they are, they sure as hell have something working against them too, and they have massive challenges of their own.


Now now, are you sexualziating us autistic men here?

your question has no relation to my comment.


Your avoiding my question with evasion tactics.

ok, my answer is no.

because that had nothing to do with what i was talking about.


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22 Aug 2011, 12:23 am

hyperlexian wrote:
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You haven't a clue. You are a woman, and therefore you do not know how it is to be an (autistic) man.


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It is hard, but I try to imagine how it is to be a woman. Women can just sit and look and then choose. The hard work must be done (as women demand that) by men. Shy women have less problems because of that reason shy men have.

wait... so you think that we cannot imagine what it is like to be YOU, yet you think you can imagine what it is like to be US?

wrong. you really have no idea.

I at least try, but women don't see I am trying to have an idea.

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did you know that for every single man in existence, there is a single woman?

Theoretically yes. There are as many women as there are men. You would expect that for each single man there is a woman, but it doesn't work that way. Some people have more relationships after eachother, and other people stay single for whatever reason.

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so for all your flimsy assertions that women have it so easy, i could just as easily assert that men have it easy. because just as many men as women are pair bonded. both assertions are false and ridiculous, of course.

I have commented why I think women have it easy apparently. Now... why do you think men have it easy? Maybe they have, but not on this very area.

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sure, there may be more autistic men than women who are single, simply because there are moe autistic men than women in existence. so who are these single women who never marry? are they fat? ugly? uneducated? less intelligent? depressed? whoever they are, they sure as hell have something working against them too, and they have massive challenges of their own.

I will admit there are some things that work against women, but generally, sex is easier to get for women as it is for men, even for autistic women, compared to autistic men. You just look at the prostitution market. Guess what? Most of the prostitutes are women and most of the clients are men.



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22 Aug 2011, 1:22 am

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oh wait, isn't this whole misogynist club founded on the idea that women don't date you guys out of mean-spiritedness?


nope, misogynists hate women. in this case for how women treat men. I don't think anybody here has said they care what is going through the womans mind.



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22 Aug 2011, 2:26 am

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What do you call a person that just hates people in general? :lol:


A misanthrope.

And misanthrope is of course, a more politically correct label.



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22 Aug 2011, 7:10 am

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I at least try, but women don't see I am trying to have an idea.

if you had an idea, you would not say it is easier for women.

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Theoretically yes. There are as many women as there are men. You would expect that for each single man there is a woman, but it doesn't work that way. Some people have more relationships after eachother, and other people stay single for whatever reason.

it does work that way. the same number of men and women die alone.

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I have commented why I think women have it easy apparently. Now... why do you think men have it easy? Maybe they have, but not on this very area.

no, i'm not going to argue that, because it is a frankly ridiculous assertion from either side (as i already said). engaging in an absurd debate does not actually prove anything. women have stated many reasons on the forum, if you care to look around and actually read them.

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I will admit there are some things that work against women, but generally, sex is easier to get for women as it is for men, even for autistic women, compared to autistic men. You just look at the prostitution market. Guess what? Most of the prostitutes are women and most of the clients are men.

sex might be easier, but i was talking about long-term relationships.


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22 Aug 2011, 11:37 am

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Theoretically yes. There are as many women as there are men. You would expect that for each single man there is a woman, but it doesn't work that way. Some people have more relationships after eachother, and other people stay single for whatever reason.

it does work that way. the same number of men and women die alone.

Any statistical proof to back that up now? Plus are you discounting divorcees, widows and widowers from that?

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I have commented why I think women have it easy apparently. Now... why do you think men have it easy? Maybe they have, but not on this very area.

no, i'm not going to argue that, because it is a frankly ridiculous assertion from either side (as i already said). engaging in an absurd debate does not actually prove anything. women have stated many reasons on the forum, if you care to look around and actually read them.
The guy asked you a simple question your avoiding it, if he wanted to hear other women's reasons don't you think he would asked them for that. He asked you!

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I will admit there are some things that work against women, but generally, sex is easier to get for women as it is for men, even for autistic women, compared to autistic men. You just look at the prostitution market. Guess what? Most of the prostitutes are women and most of the clients are men.

sex might be easier, but i was talking about long-term relationships.


From what I read of that comment it did give me the impression that you were talking about relationships in general. That comment was valid for short term relationships as well as long term. People who effectively communicate understand that other people prescribe the meaning to what they said when communicating to others. You just implied a meaning to own comment to get yourself off a sticky wicket.



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22 Aug 2011, 11:55 am

I am going to address all the so-called misogynists here. If all women have it so wonderfully easy, then why has my life been so hellishn from my earliest memories? I've been physically & emotionally abused since I was a baby. Had few friends all through childhood or even my adult years. My parents hated me, so home life sucked. There wasn't even a safe place in my neighborhood where I could hang out with anyone who liked me (they just didn't exist). Going to school meant torment from peers as well as teachers. Just getting to/from school was a scary ritual, because I never knew where someone would be just waiting for me to pass by so they could attack me. By the time I got into junior high & high school, I learned that people singled me out to abuse. It was a fun game, but it was not for me!

In junior high & all through high school, I was just there for the mass entertainment of others. I never dated, never attended a dance with a boy, never knew what that was like. I got ridiculed for being a freak that no one wanted to be seen with unless it was just to hurt me. All boys my age hated my guts & found it far more fun to hit, kick, & otherwise hurt me (this happened all through high school). Girls didn't much like me either & called me names & also physically attacked me (stopped after I got a reputation for fighting back halfway through HS). I spent most of my life alone...wanting to have friends & dates, but it just didn't happen. When I reached out to others, I got laughed at or worse. I did not date until I got out of high school & even that was rare. I was not attractive enough (wrong personality, wrong interests, wrong everything). I was still considered a freak! Guys my age just weren't interested in me. It left me feeling like a defect since I saw guys flirting & hooking up with other girls. It just rarely ever happened to me. I was forced into a marriage by my mom when I was 24 (big mistake). More physical & emotional abuse, & it went on long after I left him.

If I fought back, I was at fault/blamed for it. If I tried to ignore the abuse, the abusers just found me more irresistable to taunt & torment. But I love how the guys on this thread think that girls never suffer with stuff like I went through. So guys, are you all saying that the mental & physical abuse was just my imagination? If so, then you have no clue about how hard it is for anyone to deal with abuse. Guys are not the only ones who get rejected you know. It happens to girls too. I'm pretty sure I am not the only female on earth to experience the stuff I have or to have been rejected for dates. And why even lament about something like this in a forum where the majority (no matter what gender) has been mistreated or ignored by others?

I have been rejected well into my 40s. Thankfully, I found a guy who's a lot like me & we now have a really great relationship. But it's only taken me until my 40s to get there. Does it mean the bullying has stopped? Only temporarily because I quit my last job to get away from it. Some women never find the right guy, just like some guys don't find the right girl. Stop insulting all women by saying that we are 100% to blame for your failure to meet someone. I guarantee if I was the same age as you right now, you'd find me completely repulsive, if you bothered to acknowledge me at all. Part of what makes a misogynist rejected is the hate he projects about women. If you are truly serious about fixing the problem, you'll need to confront & deal with your anger. And stop blaming others for your own short comings!

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22 Aug 2011, 1:53 pm

cdfox7 wrote:
Any statistical proof to back that up now? Plus are you discounting divorcees, widows and widowers from that?

here's the proof:

in a group of 20 people, 10 men and 10 women, if half are married... that leaves an equal number of men and women single. it's simple mathematics.

if you have any evidence to the contrary, i'd like to see it.

exceptions are: same sex marriage, polygamy, and the disproportionate number of females on earth. but i believe those factors are not common enough to make a large difference.

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The guy asked you a simple question your avoiding it, if he wanted to hear other women's reasons don't you think he would asked them for that. He asked you!

my point was that i don't think that men have it harder, and i also don't think women have it harder. both are invalid arguments... so there is no point in providing examples for something that is not true.

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From what I read of that comment it did give me the impression that you were talking about relationships in general. That comment was valid for short term relationships as well as long term. People who effectively communicate understand that other people prescribe the meaning to what they said when communicating to others. You just implied a meaning to own comment to get yourself off a sticky wicket.

take it however you want. men and women have different challenges, and being able to get laid easily is not something that women usually consider to be a good thing. so it holds no advantage for most (but not all) women. long-term relationships are something that most (but not all) women would prefer to have - rather than random sex - so the challenges are largely in that arena. and not every woman even finds it easy to get laid... it depends on a lot of factors.

hans66 and cdfox7 if you want to read an excellent account of one experience what it can be like to be a woman, read what tomboy4good has written.


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