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07 Oct 2011, 11:06 pm

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If you're ready for suicide, why not just throw it all to the wind and do something crazy? f**k it, go hop the rails or something.


When I go, I want it to be as painless as possible. I wouldn't mind if it happened while I was sleeping.



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07 Oct 2011, 11:11 pm

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If something cannot go on forever, it will stop. The nature of that stopping is in your hands for now.

You seem to be hoping that we'll tell you something pretty and easy. But I can't think of anything. You'll need to find some motivation or suffer what comes.


What about suicide? That's a way out, and I don't have to keep suffering for the rest of my pathetic life.


Sure, that might be your future. I don't know. But people who truly don't care are free. Some take advantage of it and some don't.



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07 Oct 2011, 11:12 pm

When I die I want to be awake and aware. Preferably fighting.

The idea of just expiring and not really knowing I died horrifies me. My greatest fear is dying in my sleep. I want to know that I have ceased to exist. The idea of going to sleep and just ceasing to exist without any knowledge of that fact horrifies me on a very primal level.

But, why waste a perfectly good suicidal streak not having any fun? Why not just pick the craziest damned thing you can think of and go do it? Keep doing crazy things until one of them kills you.



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07 Oct 2011, 11:13 pm

MR20 wrote:
MrEGuy wrote:
If you're ready for suicide, why not just throw it all to the wind and do something crazy? f**k it, go hop the rails or something.


When I go, I want it to be as painless as possible. I wouldn't mind if it happened while I was sleeping.


I feel this way too. My life has been so painful...can't my death at least be painless? I have actually prayed to die in my sleep.



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08 Oct 2011, 12:15 am

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As for my interest, I like different genres of anime. I don't really feel like writing an essay on all the different types anime that watch and why. Same with video games.

I asked a question. I didn't assign you an essay.

I was trying to get you to talk about something that you like. You need to stop always thinking about being miserable, since that can make you more miserable. You need to break the vicious cycle somehow. It doesn't really matter how you do it, but you need to.

A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. Make one step. Just one, for now, and then be proud of yourself for having done something, even if it isn't that impressive by itself.


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08 Oct 2011, 10:52 am

MrEGuy wrote:
When I die I want to be awake and aware. Preferably fighting.

The idea of just expiring and not really knowing I died horrifies me. My greatest fear is dying in my sleep. I want to know that I have ceased to exist. The idea of going to sleep and just ceasing to exist without any knowledge of that fact horrifies me on a very primal level.

But, why waste a perfectly good suicidal streak not having any fun? Why not just pick the craziest damned thing you can think of and go do it? Keep doing crazy things until one of them kills you.


That seems a bit insane, bordering on something out of Jackass.



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08 Oct 2011, 11:41 am

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As for my interest, I like different genres of anime. I don't really feel like writing an essay on all the different types anime that watch and why. Same with video games.

I asked a question. I didn't assign you an essay.

I was trying to get you to talk about something that you like. You need to stop always thinking about being miserable, since that can make you more miserable. You need to break the vicious cycle somehow. It doesn't really matter how you do it, but you need to.



I don't really know how. I don't have any friends, and I've never had any dates, kisses, or even a phone number from a female.

My future is going to sh***y. I won't get married to a woman that loves me, I won't have kids. There's really nothing I can do to change that.

I won't have a decent job so I wouldn't be able to travel and visit certain states/countries. My grandma will be dead after awhile, so I'll probably be homeless w/o someone taking care of me, and my sister will probably be in a mental home.

There's really nothing I can do to change any of this stuff.

It's kinda hard not being miserable when you think about it.



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08 Oct 2011, 1:04 pm

First of all, your priorities are misplaced. From what you posted in this topic (and all the other similar posts you do almost every day here on WP), it's very obvious that your real problem is self-esteem. I think there are three things you should improve:

1 - Hygiene: you are always saying how ugly and dirty you are. Everyone here tells you to take care of your personal hygiene. You ignore their advice and keep complaining about how ugly and dirty you are. Hell, just take a goddamn shower and you''l look and feel better. Right now, this should be your number one priority. Even pigs and ants like to bathe: why should people be any different?

2 - Employment: once you take care of your hygiene, you'll increase your chances of getting a job. Since you are uneducated, you should apply for menial jobs like grocery stores, fast food restaurants, factories and so on. Yeah, they are boring as hell, but you'll be surprised to see the wonders a job does to your self-esteem. My first job (office boy) helped me to get out of a situation kind of like yours (I was depressed and spent most of the day playing video games). My second job, at a grocery store, required me to work with other people, which eventually helped me make some friends.

3 - Education: if you intend to get out of the menial jobs, you'll need a higher education. Unfortunately, poor people like us have to do things the hard way. I'm studying right now (thanks to that grocery store job: I really wanted to quit and, as a result, got back to study to get a better job. Which I got: I'm now working at a bank). I chose accounting, which is a subject I really like. I still hate school (they never teach things at the rate I learn and they love to spend time on pointless works which won't ever be useful in "real" life), but the pros outweigh the cons.

I'll be honest with you: I'm still socially inept and, despite my fairly good looks, I don't see myself dating anytime soon. But I have improved a lot since my old basement-dwelling days. Learn to love yourself before expecting others to love you.

(God, that sounded like a line from a self-help book).



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08 Oct 2011, 1:30 pm

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First of all, your priorities are misplaced. From what you posted in this topic (and all the other similar posts you do almost every day here on WP), it's very obvious that your real problem is self-esteem. I think there are three things you should improve:

1 - Hygiene: you are always saying how ugly and dirty you are. Everyone here tells you to take care of your personal hygiene. You ignore their advice and keep complaining about how ugly and dirty you are. Hell, just take a goddamn shower and you''l look and feel better. Right now, this should be your number one priority. Even pigs and ants like to bathe: why should people be any different?

2 - Employment: once you take care of your hygiene, you'll increase your chances of getting a job. Since you are uneducated, you should apply for menial jobs like grocery stores, fast food restaurants, factories and so on. Yeah, they are boring as hell, but you'll be surprised to see the wonders a job does to your self-esteem. My first job (office boy) helped me to get out of a situation kind of like yours (I was depressed and spent most of the day playing video games). My second job, at a grocery store, required me to work with other people, which eventually helped me make some friends.

3 - Education: if you intend to get out of the menial jobs, you'll need a higher education. Unfortunately, poor people like us have to do things the hard way. I'm studying right now (thanks to that grocery store job: I really wanted to quit and, as a result, got back to study to get a better job. Which I got: I'm now working at a bank). I chose accounting, which is a subject I really like. I still hate school (they never teach things at the rate I learn and they love to spend time on pointless works which won't ever be useful in "real" life), but the pros outweigh the cons.

I'll be honest with you: I'm still socially inept and, despite my fairly good looks, I don't see myself dating anytime soon. But I have improved a lot since my old basement-dwelling days. Learn to love yourself before expecting others to love you.

(God, that sounded like a line from a self-help book).

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08 Oct 2011, 2:18 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
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First of all, your priorities are misplaced. From what you posted in this topic (and all the other similar posts you do almost every day here on WP), it's very obvious that your real problem is self-esteem. I think there are three things you should improve:

1 - Hygiene: you are always saying how ugly and dirty you are. Everyone here tells you to take care of your personal hygiene. You ignore their advice and keep complaining about how ugly and dirty you are. Hell, just take a goddamn shower and you''l look and feel better. Right now, this should be your number one priority. Even pigs and ants like to bathe: why should people be any different?

2 - Employment: once you take care of your hygiene, you'll increase your chances of getting a job. Since you are uneducated, you should apply for menial jobs like grocery stores, fast food restaurants, factories and so on. Yeah, they are boring as hell, but you'll be surprised to see the wonders a job does to your self-esteem. My first job (office boy) helped me to get out of a situation kind of like yours (I was depressed and spent most of the day playing video games). My second job, at a grocery store, required me to work with other people, which eventually helped me make some friends.

3 - Education: if you intend to get out of the menial jobs, you'll need a higher education. Unfortunately, poor people like us have to do things the hard way. I'm studying right now (thanks to that grocery store job: I really wanted to quit and, as a result, got back to study to get a better job. Which I got: I'm now working at a bank). I chose accounting, which is a subject I really like. I still hate school (they never teach things at the rate I learn and they love to spend time on pointless works which won't ever be useful in "real" life), but the pros outweigh the cons.

I'll be honest with you: I'm still socially inept and, despite my fairly good looks, I don't see myself dating anytime soon. But I have improved a lot since my old basement-dwelling days. Learn to love yourself before expecting others to love you.

(God, that sounded like a line from a self-help book).

:cheers:


Don't celebrate - he's not gonna do it. He could, we've been telling him, but he won't. I refuse to post anything to him directly anymore, he will not listen.


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08 Oct 2011, 2:25 pm

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Don't celebrate - he's not gonna do it. He could, we've been telling him, but he won't. I refuse to post anything to him directly anymore, he will not listen.

i get what you mean, but in actual fact i'm cheering for Magnus_Rex. it's good advice, whether the OP listens or not. lots of lurkers and other members in various stages and places will check out the post and they might draw something important from it. also it was probably a good exercise for Magnus himself as he put his own progress down in writing, if that makes sense. it's a bit of a success story of sorts, or a roadmap to where he is now. i believe it's worth celebrating even if it falls on deaf ears.


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08 Oct 2011, 3:04 pm

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Don't celebrate - he's not gonna do it. He could, we've been telling him, but he won't. I refuse to post anything to him directly anymore, he will not listen.

i get what you mean, but in actual fact i'm cheering for Magnus_Rex. it's good advice, whether the OP listens or not. lots of lurkers and other members in various stages and places will check out the post and they might draw something important from it. also it was probably a good exercise for Magnus himself as he put his own progress down in writing, if that makes sense. it's a bit of a success story of sorts, or a roadmap to where he is now. i believe it's worth celebrating even if it falls on deaf ears.


Me too!

The best part is when he states that even all the progress he's made hasn't done anything for his love life or prospects, but he still understands that it's worth it.

I've made a huge amount of progress in the last couple of years but I'm still as big a zero with the opposite sex as I ever was, but I feel much better about myself and would still do it all over again...



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08 Oct 2011, 3:10 pm

How am I different? Someone answer this question. How am I different from the majority of the people in family. Only a handful of them graduated from HS and even less that attended college.

My dad was a HS dropout and a crackhead. My mom is a schizophrenic, and she also dropped out of HS.

Most of my other relatives are poor, uneducated, drug addicted bums that survive off welfare and donation houses

In the past I was somehow deluded into thinking that was somewhat different from them. but it wasn't true. I'm not special. I'm pretty much the same as all of them, accept for drug use.



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08 Oct 2011, 3:47 pm

People do escape that kind of world. Ive known a few. They get the "not for me" bug and it shoots them in the other direction. You'll either develop that or you won't.



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08 Oct 2011, 3:55 pm

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How am I different? Someone answer this question. How am I different from the majority of the people in family. Only a handful of them graduated from HS and even less that attended college.

My dad was a HS dropout and a crackhead. My mom is a schizophrenic, and she also dropped out of HS.

Most of my other relatives are poor, uneducated, drug addicted bums that survive off welfare and donation houses

In the past I was somehow deluded into thinking that was somewhat different from them. but it wasn't true. I'm not special. I'm pretty much the same as all of them, accept for drug use.

not even going to go deeply into the specifics of my family background, but in general... we have it all: prostitution, alcoholism, drugs, disease (AIDS), crime, gang membership, severe mental illness/suicide, poverty/homelessness, unplanned pregnancies, lack of education (neither of my parents graduated from high school, nor did one of my sisters, NOR DID I - i got my high school diploma after i graduated from university as an adult student, my sister got her diploma based on work experience, and my mother went to night school).

seriously, don't even try to hide behind your family's mistakes. you are responsible for your own life, and you CAN change it.


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08 Oct 2011, 4:02 pm

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I don't really know how.

To break the vicious cycle you're in? Stop telling yourself that you're awful and start doing something to help yourself.

That's all there is to it. It doesn't take a genius or a high school diploma to manage it. Just do it.

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I don't have any friends, and I've never had any dates, kisses, or even a phone number from a female.

This also describes me perfectly. I am happy, though.

Not everything in my life is going well, but some things are, and I'm working on the other bits. Slowly, sometimes, but I'm doing stuff.

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There's really nothing I can do to change any of this stuff.

Yes there is.

Lots of people in this thread and in several other threads have given you good advice. Just start following even a little of it.


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