Am I ugly?

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27 Oct 2011, 12:01 am

Embroglio wrote:

God MR20 you're pathetic. I hate to say it but you are. And it's not because you're ugly. It's because of your attitude, you're attitude is what turns girls off from you. It's not because you're slow, and ugly.

Yes it is. I've never talked about my problems a bit or even hinted at them in the past in public. Girl aren't attracted to be because of all the reason I've stated over and over again. Not because of attitude.

I'm pretty sure everyone on this site is tired of you doing nothing but b***h about how much your life sucks.

Don't like it don't read it

You never post about what you like, or anything else.

I've posted about my interests numerous times on this board. I like anime, video games, porn, and various TV shows.

You just start 1-2 topics a day about how much your life sucks.

No I start topics to vent and let out frustration. I just wanted to prove to you people I'm a ugly, slow, good for nothing pathetic loser that will be alone forever. I'm not blaming anyone else, I'm blaming myself for how much of a bum I am and have been my whole life.

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27 Oct 2011, 12:05 am

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honestly, if you just had more self-confidence and you smiled instead of just letting your mouth droop open like it is in those pictures you'd be cute.

That's my best smile, I don't think I could do any better than that.

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27 Oct 2011, 12:39 am

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MR20 wrote:

... I'm just looking for honesty and for people to agree with my opinions about myself.

Well, what do you want; honesty or agreement? Which is more important to you?

They both can be one in the same.

There is only a 25% chance of that.

25% for "Not Honest + Not Agreeable"
25% for "Not Honest + Agreeable"
25% for "Honest + Not Agreeable"
25% for "Honest + Agreeable"

But you have evaded the questions: "What do you want; honesty or agreement?" and "Which is more important to you?"

I guess agreement. I have been called ugly, slow, stupid, poor, loser, lowlife, pathetic, and a bum by tons of people throughout my life. I didn't believe it at first. I thought people were just being mean, and I guess I was deluded into thinking I could be normal, date and have real friends.

After awhile, the evidence started to build up, and I finally came to the realization that what they were saying was all true. I am those things. I am a pathetic bum that's not good for anything and will be alone forever.

That's who I am, there's no running from it or denying it. Yes I expect people to agree, because that's how I've been viewed by people I've throughout my life, and it's how I view myself.

I just wish you people could hang out with for a week or two (if you last that long) You'll see how pathetic and hopeless I am. The evidence will be there in bunches.

BTW, I don't really think people are being honest on here. Some are just telling lies (me being cute and whatnot) to preserve my feelings.

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27 Oct 2011, 12:41 am

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I think this is a cry for help are you depressive ?

Yes I'm miserable, depressed, suicidal, etc.

I don't know what you mean by "cry for help"

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27 Oct 2011, 12:50 am

MR20 wrote:

I guess agreement. I have been called ugly, slow, stupid, poor, loser, lowlife, pathetic, and a bum by tons of people throughout my life.

To me this is the crux of the matter. You have believed what abusive people told you, and you have bought into what they said. You need to move past the abuse in your past.

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27 Oct 2011, 2:14 am

Thanks for posting this thread because I just realized how two faces and dishonest people are, even when they speak completely anonymously. Nobody has thought that you could really want to know weather you are ugly or not, they all think that you are a depressive b***h whothey have to help feeling better out of charity. You want to know if you are ugly. Yes you are ugly, your face is not harmonious they is no point to discuss that further. Thanks for listening.

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27 Oct 2011, 3:58 am

^ That is a matter of opinion. I dont think that he is ugly and a number of people have also stated this.

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27 Oct 2011, 5:14 am

zen_mistress wrote:

^ That is a matter of opinion. I dont think that he is ugly and a number of people have also stated this.

Beauty is not a matter of opinion and the people who posted stated this are biased.

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27 Oct 2011, 5:29 am

TheWingman wrote:

zen_mistress wrote:

^ That is a matter of opinion. I dont think that he is ugly and a number of people have also stated this.

Beauty is not a matter of opinion and the people who posted stated this are biased.

Beauty is a matter of opinion.

Sure there is some sort of beauty "everyone"(aka most people/we dont care about your opinion if you dont fit this group)agrees its beauty but if said concept was as universal as you state: how can you explain the way "universal beauty" has changed through history?. How can you explain that what in some places is considered as beauty in others it isnt?.

The only way this is explainable is by agreeing that beauty is a subjective concept,that cant be generalized.

Take this definition of beauty from the free dictionary.com 1. The quality that gives pleasure to the mind or senses and is associated with such properties as harmony of form or color, excellence of artistry, truthfulness, and originality.

Wht you find pleasant can be seen as disgusting/hideous to others and what others and vice versa

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27 Oct 2011, 5:44 am

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Thanks for posting this thread because I just realized how two faces and dishonest people are, even when they speak completely anonymously in a freak forum. Nobody has thought that you could really want to know weather you are ugly or not, they all think that you are a depressive b***h whothey have to help feeling better out of charity. You want to know if you are ugly. Yes you are ugly, your face is not harmonious they is no point to discuss that further. Thanks for listening.

What advantage would there be in lying to him?

I could understand if he was a person in the real world, asking this question of a friend. They might feel uncomfortable, and lie. But online we could just ignore him if we wanted to.

Any answer people give is likely to be the truth as they see it. Especially people who don't have an online relationship with him, like me.

To do anything else would be illogical.

And...."freak forum"?

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27 Oct 2011, 5:55 am

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Sorry I missed this(tend to stop reading when I believe that any reply would be pointless) he is being contacted about it.

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27 Oct 2011, 7:48 am

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Thanks for reminding me why I took a break from WP.

Gonna go eat some chicken nuggets, read Manga and I'll be back in 3-4 months.

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27 Oct 2011, 12:00 pm

MR20 just work on your hygiene that's probably the main reason why people avoid you. With it being that bad you probably smell like a dumpster. You just let your clothes marinate in your own filth for 2 months. Honestly I would probably avoid you just because of the hygiene, no one wants to be around someone who smells bad.

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27 Oct 2011, 12:16 pm

MR20 wrote:

I've been out in the past and I've talked to a bunch of girls. Most of them did judge and none wanted to get to know me in that kind of way. All of them basically viewed me as this ugly, poor, slow, stupid, and halfway-retarded bum who was beneath them. They could never respect a person like me. They'd humiliate and try to embarrass me, They would make fun and talk down to me in front of my "friends" (it gets contagious)

BTW, what goals can I achieve? I've never accomplished anything in my life because I'm so pathetic. Prove people wrong, about what? They were right then and they are right now. They said I'd be a good for nothing, poor, pathetic loser that would never date and still be living off his parent well into his thirties. They haven't been wrong about anything yet.

BTW people will always call me names, make fun, and talk down to me. It's just the way that I look, think, talk, and act. It's just very hard for people to respect and treat a person like that as equals.

I made a decision that it wouldn't be worth all the pressure and being treated like sh** just to be friends with people, so I locked myself in my house and kept to myself.

That was over 3-4 years ago.

If you're not comfortable yet with emotional pressure or forming real friendships, just work on small things, take small steps and you'll start to see gradual improvements in your life. Set yourself short, realistic goals to achieve every week and start making a difference in yourself.

Rome wasn't built in a day and perhaps you've not been given the best cards in life but there's plenty of people who never get the opportunity or chance to improve themselves. You have a fair chance and if anyone says otherwise, they're not worth it and until you start believing that you have as much right as anyone else, you're not going to get any respect from people. It's time for you to take a stand and fight back to show people that you are worth more. It's up to you, you can either go down as a victim of your circumstances or the master of your own fate, a fighter.

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27 Oct 2011, 12:38 pm

zen_mistress wrote:

MR20 wrote:

I guess agreement. I have been called ugly, slow, stupid, poor, loser, lowlife, pathetic, and a bum by tons of people throughout my life.

To me this is the crux of the matter. You have believed what abusive people told you, and you have bought into what they said. You need to move past the abuse in your past.

You might as well call most of the people in the world abusive. They just call them as they see them, and they just don't react well to people that are different and who they think are beneath them (people like me)

It maybe unfair, maddening, and frustrating, but it's reality.

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27 Oct 2011, 12:45 pm

Embroglio wrote:

See the problem is, even when I bathe people say I stink. I believe it's my house. It's rat infested, dirty, and broken down. It also has a few pipe leaks. Also my sister barley bathes too and she still has problems with not urinating while she is asleep. (she is 24, unbelievable right?) That doesn't really help with the smell of our house.

It's been this way since my teens, so bathing doesn't really matter.

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