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28 Dec 2011, 9:23 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
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I have contradicting instincts. I desire sex, but I also desire solitude & virginity. Neither of these desires are under my control, nor are they logical.

I both want and don't want sex. It's frustrating, and one of the ways the frustration manifests is hatred of females.


It sounds psychopathic more than being an atheist, aspergers or whatever.

I think it's a completely different mental disorder.


I'm not sure why you would want to bed a women anyways more than likely they'll just pass on a societal disease on to you that and as a male your expected to be entertaining and amusing just like a preforming sea lion , enslaved to amuse the mindless and ignorant audiences, that and you have to put up with their #$%T aka you become their @.

I am not a stinky sea lion.


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28 Dec 2011, 9:23 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
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I have contradicting instincts. I desire sex, but I also desire solitude & virginity. Neither of these desires are under my control, nor are they logical.

I both want and don't want sex. It's frustrating, and one of the ways the frustration manifests is hatred of females.

Your reminded me of Jack the Ripper, getting sexual pleasure without having sex.


Jack the Ripper was probably a really really super unethical extreme over the top evil sadist more than anything else, hence the sexual pleasure.

Notice I put a lot of emphasis on how over the top he was though - I certainly wouldn't want to give the impression that any significant proportion of sexual sadists are like that all 8O

I get that, the issue is, can someone get sexual pleasure without having sexual intercourse and at the same time hating women? Where is the frustration here? :P



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28 Dec 2011, 9:24 pm

aussiebloke wrote:
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Yeah, it's pretty common here.
I would say the remedy is to just stop thinking of women as something for you to "get"/acquire, and separating them mentally into attractive/not attractive,
but feelings aren't always rational.

See a psychiatrist, maybe?


You cant blame us can you ? :wink:


I'm not sure I can assign blame for things I have no conception of and haven't struggled with, personally.
I don't have experience with hating a group of people because I want with some of them something I refuse to pursue.
I'm too stupid to grasp the concept even theoretically.

The only thing to do is just suggest some resources, primarily cognitive-behavioral therapy.


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28 Dec 2011, 9:26 pm

aussiebloke wrote:
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I have contradicting instincts. I desire sex, but I also desire solitude & virginity. Neither of these desires are under my control, nor are they logical.

I both want and don't want sex. It's frustrating, and one of the ways the frustration manifests is hatred of females.


It sounds psychopathic more than being an atheist, aspergers or whatever.

I think it's a completely different mental disorder.


I'm not sure why you would want to bed a women anyways more than likely they'll just pass on a societal disease on to you that and as a male your expected to be entertaining and amusing just like a preforming sea lion , enslaved to amuse the mindless and ignorant audiences, that and you have to put up with their #$%T aka you become their @.

I am not a stinky sea lion.


R U ?



:lmao:

Really. Can't breathe.


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28 Dec 2011, 9:26 pm

^^^^

Porn would be cheaper.


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28 Dec 2011, 9:28 pm

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^^^^

Porn would be cheaper.


:eew: I'm good.


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28 Dec 2011, 9:31 pm

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and rape are illegal.

Simulated rape isn't illegal ASAIK.



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28 Dec 2011, 9:32 pm

blunnet wrote:
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blunnet wrote:
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I have contradicting instincts. I desire sex, but I also desire solitude & virginity. Neither of these desires are under my control, nor are they logical.

I both want and don't want sex. It's frustrating, and one of the ways the frustration manifests is hatred of females.

Your reminded me of Jack the Ripper, getting sexual pleasure without having sex.


Jack the Ripper was probably a really really super unethical extreme over the top evil sadist more than anything else, hence the sexual pleasure.

Notice I put a lot of emphasis on how over the top he was though - I certainly wouldn't want to give the impression that any significant proportion of sexual sadists are like that all 8O

I get that, the issue is, can someone get sexual pleasure without having sexual intercourse and at the same time hating women? Where is the frustration here? :P


Well if sadism is involved then probably, not sure. I love women who are into weird s**t so I wouldn't know :P



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28 Dec 2011, 9:32 pm

ValentineWiggin wrote:
aussiebloke wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
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I have contradicting instincts. I desire sex, but I also desire solitude & virginity. Neither of these desires are under my control, nor are they logical.

I both want and don't want sex. It's frustrating, and one of the ways the frustration manifests is hatred of females.


It sounds psychopathic more than being an atheist, aspergers or whatever.

I think it's a completely different mental disorder.


I'm not sure why you would want to bed a women anyways more than likely they'll just pass on a societal disease on to you that and as a male your expected to be entertaining and amusing just like a preforming sea lion , enslaved to amuse the mindless and ignorant audiences, that and you have to put up with their #$%T aka you become their @.

I am not a stinky sea lion.


R U ?



:lmao:

Really. Can't breathe.



As a vegan yourself :thumright: I assumed you would like it. The 1st time I went to "SeaWorld" in grade one I was appalled by the experience and dumbfounded that both children and (apparently) educated people could find this "entertaining "

Disgraceful....


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28 Dec 2011, 9:34 pm

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^^^^

Porn would be cheaper.


:eew: I'm good.


I'm a clearskin :wink: come on :P Surely your not a bit curious ?


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28 Dec 2011, 9:48 pm

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Or you could look for women similarly disinterested in frustrating games and relationships.

I understand about the revulsion at the cheapness of everything having a price... I don't know what to say, you can own the whole earth but no one is going to give it to you, you have to take it. I didn't say that to be harsh. I know it's harsh, that fact in different forms has made me so sad so many times. But then again. The whole world is yours for the taking. So in one way everything has a price but who are you paying the price to. The space between things kind of, that's shared by everyone. Everyone pays the life they were given for nothing into the communal pool and ends up with either nothing or everything depending on what you define as the boundaries of your self and life. I feel like I'm talking in a way that won't be taken seriously so I will stop.

this is a beautiful post, full of truth. you speak wisely, and i am always glad to have read one of your posts. you teach me a great deal.


I thought I had that affect on you :wink:


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28 Dec 2011, 9:57 pm

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That is exactly my point. As a woman you will go on the defensive about the existence of the female orgasm, but with the same breath you would claim to understand male sexuality and the male orgasm. It drives us men completely insane. Men don't really care why a woman orgasms...most are just concerned about if she does or not. And the expression of that concern is usually met with some form of negativity. Yep, this guy needs advice about his predicament and there are women that actually think they would understand this situation :|

There is the possibility that due to not having any sexual release, the OP might have pent up frustrations that he perceives as hateful feelings for desirable women. Ever been frustrated ladies and torn the head off an unsuspecting guy? Ever ramble through a mess of tears explaining why you went off your head when you didn't get away with it? There really is a good possibility that the OP simply needs to get laid and the whole world will shift back into a healthier perspective. Just sayin...

i didn't make any claims about male sexuality, so you're barking up the wrong tree. i said that from my observations here on WP, visiting a prostitute did not help men with their misogynistic attitudes. and in fact, some seem to have gotten worse. i even explained that tendency using logic.

you have some stereotypical ideas about how men and women behave (what's that about crying and tearing the head off of unsuspecting guys? something about harpies?), and i think you'll find that on WP people will challenge those ideas.


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28 Dec 2011, 10:01 pm

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for goodness sake, women are not a prize to be won and most do not expect a juggling act, I sleep with someone If I like them, respect them am attracted to them, and they have to feel the same way about me.
It isn't a game, you just have to find someone compatible.
most of the time I just tell someone if I am attracted to them for example "you know I have a massive crush on you right?"
also, its not attractive to be resentful or desperate or to be just thinking "sex sex sex" the whole time you are talking to a woman.

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28 Dec 2011, 11:02 pm

aussiebloke wrote:
^^^^

Porn would be cheaper.

It's cheaper than dating.

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for goodness sake, women are not a prize to be won and most do not expect a juggling act, I sleep with someone If I like them, respect them am attracted to them, and they have to feel the same way about me.

It's ideal, yes, but it isn't always the case.

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also, its not attractive to be resentful or desperate or to be just thinking "sex sex sex" the whole time you are talking to a woman.

What is actually not attractive is, showing resentment (because people judge from appereance), and the sex part, let's not forget that the social pressures from society regarding sex plays a role on this. What is the likelihood that the OP has had sexual experience before? (Haven't read previous posts of him, however he doesn't like the idea of visiting prostitutes).

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i said that from my observations here on WP, visiting a prostitute did not help men with their misogynistic attitudes. and in fact, some seem to have gotten worse.

After claims of visiting prostitutes, how is that possible to conclude a tendency from comments on the interwebs, especially to tell it gets worse rather than the same?
I mean, people say one thing, claim one thing and rant about one thing, but actions are another thing.



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28 Dec 2011, 11:08 pm

blunnet wrote:
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i said that from my observations here on WP, visiting a prostitute did not help men with their misogynistic attitudes. and in fact, some seem to have gotten worse.

After claims of visiting prostitutes, how is that possible to conclude from comments on the interwebs?
I mean, people say one thing, but actions are another thing.

not sure what you are saying here... if think they would be lying about that then you should bother reading any threads at all as it would be entirely lies.


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28 Dec 2011, 11:16 pm

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not sure what you are saying here... if think they would be lying about that then you should bother reading any threads at all as it would be entirely lies.

Not just about lies, but lies are always a possibility, I edited my post saying "people say one thing, claim one thing and rant about one thing, but actions are another thing."

And, how to tell if gets worse rather than the same?