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07 Jun 2012, 10:14 am

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There seems to be so much focus, at least on the internet, on when fat/ugly women do it. Why focus on them and not everyone else?


Yes. Why?


because its done to fat/ugly men irl. So they pass it along online. hive mentality



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07 Jun 2012, 10:20 am

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Because she's deceiving the other part. Imagine of someone advertised a mint condition 1988 BMW M3, with 20" alloy wheels, a mileage of just 50,000 miles and an all leather interior for just 5,000 dollars on eBay. You reschedule your day, drive for an hour, pay for gas, toll booths and all that and when you get there, it's not an M3, but a 316 with a rusty frame, sawdust in the transmission, no alloy wheels, 220,000 miles on the odometer, lots of mold in the interior, and defective brakes, but the buyer still wants 5K for it. Wouldn't you feel angry?


Exactly.. has happened to me numerous times in the past.. and then she normally has the nerve to get bitchy with me when I don't follow through with taking her out.. It's why I've started mandating we meet at a public place first.. I get there 30 minutes early and sit and wait, if I don't like what i see, I just get up and leave.

It's the same as if I went to a bar and started flashing around a wad of cash (all 1's with a few 20's and 100's wrapped around the outside) and got tons of girls.. it would be the same falsehood. I was lying about my status and wealth in order to get a mate.. same as these other girls are lying about their appearance to get a mate.



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07 Jun 2012, 10:23 am

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Exactly. It's very hypocritical.


if a guy isn't ugly, stupid, uneducated and s on (a lot of the frustrated guys here are both athletic and intelligent), he shouldn't have to settle for someone who is. Your instincts won't allow you to date someone with a less attractive set of genetics.

There are tons of unattractive girls who reject guys in their own league who'd be very happy to date them.

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Yes. Why?


Because it's deceptive.



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07 Jun 2012, 10:24 am

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I don't use dating sites, but I'd imagine that a lot of people, male and female, lied or were deceptive in some way. There seems to be so much focus, at least on the internet, on when fat/ugly women do it. Why focus on them and not everyone else?

My point is that besides the fact that it's just nasty to make fun of people for being physically unattractive, is that, if you have something wrong with you (and Asperger's counts), then people are probably making the same dismissive, sneering comments about you. I'm not saying that's right, but why is it right for you to do it to other people?


Brilliant!


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07 Jun 2012, 10:29 am

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I don't use dating sites, but I'd imagine that a lot of people, male and female, lied or were deceptive in some way. There seems to be so much focus, at least on the internet, on when fat/ugly women do it. Why focus on them and not everyone else?

My point is that besides the fact that it's just nasty to make fun of people for being physically unattractive, is that, if you have something wrong with you (and Asperger's counts), then people are probably making the same dismissive, sneering comments about you. I'm not saying that's right, but why is it right for you to do it to other people?


Brilliant!
Because people are very keen to police women's appearance/behavior/fertility/pretty much everything.


I understand that elderly gentleman at the end of the bar finds you attractive, perhaps instead of sneering at his age, you should get to know him before you dismiss him..

Oh, wait? You're not interested? He's too "Old"? Oh..



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07 Jun 2012, 10:40 am

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Because she's deceiving the other part. Imagine of someone advertised a mint condition 1988 BMW M3, with 20" alloy wheels, a mileage of just 50,000 miles and an all leather interior for just 5,000 dollars on eBay. You reschedule your day, drive for an hour, pay for gas, toll booths and all that and when you get there, it's not an M3, but a 316 with a rusty frame, sawdust in the transmission, no alloy wheels, 220,000 miles on the odometer, lots of mold in the interior, and defective brakes, but the buyer still wants 5K for it. Wouldn't you feel angry?


Exactly.. has happened to me numerous times in the past.. and then she normally has the nerve to get bitchy with me when I don't follow through with taking her out.. It's why I've started mandating we meet at a public place first.. I get there 30 minutes early and sit and wait, if I don't like what i see, I just get up and leave.


I wish I had the conscience to do that. :lol: When this has happened to me, I've stayed through the whole date, which was extremely awkward.



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07 Jun 2012, 10:44 am

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Because she's deceiving the other part. Imagine of someone advertised a mint condition 1988 BMW M3, with 20" alloy wheels, a mileage of just 50,000 miles and an all leather interior for just 5,000 dollars on eBay. You reschedule your day, drive for an hour, pay for gas, toll booths and all that and when you get there, it's not an M3, but a 316 with a rusty frame, sawdust in the transmission, no alloy wheels, 220,000 miles on the odometer, lots of mold in the interior, and defective brakes, but the buyer still wants 5K for it. Wouldn't you feel angry?


Exactly.. has happened to me numerous times in the past.. and then she normally has the nerve to get bitchy with me when I don't follow through with taking her out.. It's why I've started mandating we meet at a public place first.. I get there 30 minutes early and sit and wait, if I don't like what i see, I just get up and leave.


I wish I had the conscience to do that. :lol: When this has happened to me, I've stayed through the whole date, which was extremely awkward.


I used to do that.. but it got to expensive. I got tired of them realizing there was no hope, and then ordering the most expensive thing on the menu when I took them out.. Now, if she's not even remotely attractive to me.. I just walk..



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07 Jun 2012, 10:45 am

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I don't use dating sites, but I'd imagine that a lot of people, male and female, lied or were deceptive in some way. There seems to be so much focus, at least on the internet, on when fat/ugly women do it. Why focus on them and not everyone else?

My point is that besides the fact that it's just nasty to make fun of people for being physically unattractive, is that, if you have something wrong with you (and Asperger's counts), then people are probably making the same dismissive, sneering comments about you. I'm not saying that's right, but why is it right for you to do it to other people?


Brilliant!
Because people are very keen to police women's appearance/behavior/fertility/pretty much everything.


I understand that elderly gentleman at the end of the bar finds you attractive, perhaps instead of sneering at his age, you should get to know him before you dismiss him..

Oh, wait? You're not interested? He's too "Old"? Oh..


Yup, being bothered by mature adults creeping on my barely legal ass, which is being upset at a behavior by the way
is exactly the same as hurling abuse at people for their physical appearance
We could totally discuss the topic at hand but if you'd rather make is all about me as a person instead I guess that's cool.


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07 Jun 2012, 10:46 am

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Because she's deceiving the other part. Imagine of someone advertised a mint condition 1988 BMW M3, with 20" alloy wheels, a mileage of just 50,000 miles and an all leather interior for just 5,000 dollars on eBay. You reschedule your day, drive for an hour, pay for gas, toll booths and all that and when you get there, it's not an M3, but a 316 with a rusty frame, sawdust in the transmission, no alloy wheels, 220,000 miles on the odometer, lots of mold in the interior, and defective brakes, but the buyer still wants 5K for it. Wouldn't you feel angry?


Exactly.. has happened to me numerous times in the past.. and then she normally has the nerve to get bitchy with me when I don't follow through with taking her out.. It's why I've started mandating we meet at a public place first.. I get there 30 minutes early and sit and wait, if I don't like what i see, I just get up and leave.


I wish I had the conscience to do that. :lol: When this has happened to me, I've stayed through the whole date, which was extremely awkward.


I used to do that.. but it got to expensive. I got tired of them realizing there was no hope, and then ordering the most expensive thing on the menu when I took them out.. Now, if she's not even remotely attractive to me.. I just walk..


How do the girls react when you do that? If it happens to me again, I don't want to scare them from dating other people online.



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07 Jun 2012, 10:48 am

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07 Jun 2012, 10:50 am

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It's why I've started mandating we meet at a public place first.. I get there 30 minutes early and sit and wait, if I don't like what i see, I just get up and leave.


Wow. I actually hope you don't get a girlfriend. God knows how you'd treat her.


Two wrongs don't make a right, but deceiving him wasn't nice either.



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07 Jun 2012, 10:54 am

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It's why I've started mandating we meet at a public place first.. I get there 30 minutes early and sit and wait, if I don't like what i see, I just get up and leave.


Wow. I actually hope you don't get a girlfriend. God knows how you'd treat her.


While i agree with that I also think that id surely be rather pissed about someone seeing the date going to s**t so taking advantage and ordering something they normally wouldnt.



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07 Jun 2012, 10:55 am

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Because she's deceiving the other part. Imagine of someone advertised a mint condition 1988 BMW M3, with 20" alloy wheels, a mileage of just 50,000 miles and an all leather interior for just 5,000 dollars on eBay. You reschedule your day, drive for an hour, pay for gas, toll booths and all that and when you get there, it's not an M3, but a 316 with a rusty frame, sawdust in the transmission, no alloy wheels, 220,000 miles on the odometer, lots of mold in the interior, and defective brakes, but the buyer still wants 5K for it. Wouldn't you feel angry?


Exactly.. has happened to me numerous times in the past.. and then she normally has the nerve to get bitchy with me when I don't follow through with taking her out.. It's why I've started mandating we meet at a public place first.. I get there 30 minutes early and sit and wait, if I don't like what i see, I just get up and leave.


I wish I had the conscience to do that. :lol: When this has happened to me, I've stayed through the whole date, which was extremely awkward.


I used to do that.. but it got to expensive. I got tired of them realizing there was no hope, and then ordering the most expensive thing on the menu when I took them out.. Now, if she's not even remotely attractive to me.. I just walk..


How do the girls react when you do that? If it happens to me again, I don't want to scare them from dating other people online.


Don't really know or care to be honest. I imagine they get angry, but I've only ever had a few get angry enough to send me messages on the web. I imagine they are are used to getting stood up.

I also feel that it's a bit ridiculous to assume that I'd treat a girl who I was interested in the same way I'm treating a complete stranger. That's it though you see, If you put these girls who I'm walking out on in a bar, I wouldn't approach and talk to them to begin with, so they are actually making it further than they would if I met them in person first.



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07 Jun 2012, 11:00 am

And here we have an example of a guy with higher sights than he can get.



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07 Jun 2012, 11:01 am

Kurgan wrote:
smudge wrote:
Exactly. It's very hypocritical.


if a guy isn't ugly, stupid, uneducated and s on (a lot of the frustrated guys here are both athletic and intelligent), he shouldn't have to settle for someone who is. Your instincts won't allow you to date someone with a less attractive set of genetics.

There are tons of unattractive girls who reject guys in their own league who'd be very happy to date them.

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Yes. Why?


Because it's deceptive.


I'm not talking about settling, I'm talking about not being a dick toward people who you aren't attracted to.


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