Appearance and Fashion Tips for Asperger's Men

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Sorry, mate, but you're a bit wrong on that, aye? Australians have been big players in alternative fashion for the last three decades. You've been reading too many Armani catalogues, and think that's the only part of the fashion world there is.

If you take yourself so seriously that you aren't willing to try different styles of clothing once in your life or be light hearted when approaching fashion, you are going to come off as serious and vain. So you let a piece of clothing define your personality and who you are?

Wolfheart, mate...that, right there, in bold, is precisely what would happen to you here in Oceania if you showed up in a suit anywhere that wasn't a poppy club, a circle of businesspeople, or a formal event. And you'd still get stares if you didn't ditch the dinner jacket before going to the club (Suit pants and a nice shirt is considered stylish). Remember, not everyone is from London.

Also, clothing is frequently seen as a form of self-expression. Clothes really DO make the man, more often than not.

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That might be the case but I live on the other side of the world from Australia in a conservative area where dressing in a suit or good clothing is the standard and normal, I live a very corporate place. Sure, clothing can be cultural but if you want to move to become richer, you imitate the patterns to success and successful people who have become successful before you.

If you want to learn something like a sport or even an art skill, you are inspired by a peer and you imitate their sense of style in that sport or art skill.

Ok, fair enough, but perhaps you should make it clear that the clothing advice is somewhat narrow in it's scope. You could have people spending hundreds of bucks on a nice suit that they don't need. It's also worth pointing out that wearing [edit]suits is only relevant to the corporate world for success.

You wouldn't even get in a club or certain shops here without wearing a suit or formal clothing, you wouldn't even get into a local casino if you didn't have a nice shirt and shoes on.

It seems like my advice is more suited to people in corporate capitals or fashion cities such as Paris, Milan, Dubai, New York and London, I agree that it might not be suited to someone who's living in Kentucky or Canada but that's up to them to take notice of the fashion in their local area.

The general tips as such as going to the gym, staying well groomed and looking presentable are relevant anywhere in the world.

For the mainstream clubs, this is correct even out here, as I noted before. The Casino too. But, there's also a lot of clubs you would get stared at, and I wouldn't be surprised if one of the hardstyle clubs wouldn't even let you in for showing up in something you can't even go hard out dancing in.



Yup. You should put a quick note in, though, it would help the noobs.



I agree completely, as I noted in my first post.

I find myself more frequently agreeing with Shau, who lives in Oz rather than Wolfheart who lives less than 100 miles away

I'd say I was a conformist, due to bullying back in school (Those non-uniform days were a nightmare!) but recently rediscovering my own style. I say, Fashion goes with Identity and Stereotypes. That is, if you're within certain groups you will be influenced by and dress accordingly with that group.
College kids buy from the same group of stores - Topman, River Island, H&M - to the point where you can 'read' people's outfits before you've even met them.

I thought and still think, Fashion is all about expressing your own identity in it's 'purest' form. I may choose to go to H&M due to the influence of the groups I live around, but it's my own identity which chooses which colours and prints I buy and thus when people look at me ( ) they can see where I buy from, but that I've specifically chosen that colour, for whatever reason.

I've been in Birmingham's Nightlife and I say, the dress code issue isn't too formal or structured. There's a general principles that most people stick by - no casual clothes, and that's about it.

If I'm being honest I find OP's post insulting, unhelpful and ultimately damaging for aspies who aren't high functioning or had enough social experience for them to use. Building personal confidence, absolutely agree with, but it's not the clothes that's the problem, it's either a health issue or an self-esteem issue - both aspies suffer from.
If and when a person wants to change they will find their own inspiration and style-group and build from there.

Health tips however, are alien to myself and I suspect other aspies. I have never used nor own any fragrances ever. Yet in almost every men's fashion and health site I've read, promotes the use of fragrances as 'essential' for dating. Where do I start? How much do these cost? What's the difference between aftershave and toilette? What's the point of having three different notes, whatever the hell they are? How will affect my skin?
I could go on, and that's merely fragrances, I haven't even started on what women use and why. Or why men are/should be using these products now?

I do think the topic is in the right place, but it just needs tweaking.
And no, everybody doesn't wear suits everyday here. I personally enjoy wearing a suit, just so you know.

The difference in culture can be hard to grasp, even when it's between two western ones.

In any case, his advice is sound. Even his clothing advice is sound, so long as it's in the right context. I learned how to properly socialize by watching popular people. I'd watch how they did their intonations, watch their body language, listen to the kind of jokes they made, and the sort of words they used. You gotta watch that s**t, man, and give it long enough and you start to understand bits and pieces of how it works, if only from a pattern-based way.



Jean Paul Gaultier's "Le Male" is both reasonably priced (about 50 euros), and smells fan-freaking-tastic. I haven't met a single chick that hasn't loved the way it smells. Give this one a shot. Linky!

And, don't bother with aftershave. Just get yourself a nice cologne, and a nice deodorant, and you're set as far as scents go.

I'd stare at him, say to myself " what a dick " even if i was in london ( nothing personal wolfheart, that'd go for anyone, aspie truth mode). Believe me, pretentious isn't a good flavour no matter where you go. Also, talk about unimaginative, that's condensed unimaginative.

In summary, be a tryhard and act like someone you're not?

I'm still yet to see Wolfheart's L&D advice get any better than this.

It explains why englishmans are seen as dull and uptight (same problem with mentioned New Yorkers)

For me "formal attire" clubs, shops and all that stuff are nothing more than relics of dark ages thinking - nothing more than dividing people to master and slaves, pheasants and nobles... and that's just sick - especially in XXI'st century




I'm not letting a piece of clothing define my personality - I'm letting my personality to define my clothing.
Not "cultural codes", not fads - but my personality (that's why I'm wearing t-shirts I painted myself, cap I designed myself, et cetera)
You see the difference?

Ok, I agree that looking like a bum (and especially smelling like a bum) or like a couch potato is a bad thing - but I will never believe that following own style is something wrong, and that looking like corporate douchebag is only one proper style in this world.

http://news.change.org/stories/in-store ... ed-fashion

California tends to have its own rather casual style even in the business world the only people that do the whole dress to impress thing are salespeople of some sort.

Not at all, wearing a suit or making yourself more presentable shouldn't change who you are unless you actually let clothes define your personality and character as a person. The so called try hard people are people who are voted as the sexiest people in Hollywood and magazines, they are the people that are successful, what would your advice be? wear a rainbow shirt and have dreadlocks?

Still this idea that right is measured by how many people agree with you? When the people that agree with you are idiots your case fails. Hollywood and magazines aren't the centre of the world.