asked a woman out today

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Yes, your observation is correct. Although most guys hate the fact that girls won't go on a date unless they pay, it's the way most girls are. I just wouldn't go out with a guy if he wants to go on a date and won't pay. I don't play games with anyone, I was just raised to think this way.

Well, what's wrong with buying a guy a cup of coffee. it's only like 3 dollars. They are not too much money

That's a little brash dont you think? You are entitled to your preferences as are we all however dont you think it's a little cold that if a great guy doesnt want to be your daddy that you won't even give him a chance? What does that say about your dignity? Not trying to be an ass here, im a freeloader myself and fell like s**t a lot bc of it lol. The worst part is that not only does the guy pay for everything, but during divorce which is inevitable nowadays the woman steals half to 3quarters of his earnings lol...in addition to te children the house, the car. How can women ever expect to be equals when all they do is be hypocritical with money and mind games(flirting when not interested ugh).
.rant

most coffee is only 99cents. I got a large(32 oz) iced coffee at dunkin other day it was under 2.30

well, a woman can pay for stuff too. what wrong with that?

Nothing is wrong with it...but good luck finding a girl who will do that..

I can see why you feel angry. A lot of girls are not angels and are capable of doing what you describe. But maybe it's because I'm not like that. My Bf is a gentleman all the time and he always insists on paying for dates although I feel so embarrassed when he does. It's just a preference. Some girls out there are more modern and do 50/50. More power to them, but I like the tradition I follow.

I got a fairly buff body and abs, maybe I should ask out women with my shirt off. LOL.

In an ideal world, the couple takes turns paying.

In the real world, the guy pays until the relationship is established. That said, birthdays are a notable exception.

In the end, you can argue all day long about "hey it's only 99 cents" or "why should guys pay" but in the end, that's how the world works.

That sounds like a really lame test. The conclusions being drawn are completely illogical. If I ever interviewed at Subway I'd be inclined to take the free sub anyway (I presume you meant they offer it for free). Now, having read the reasons behind the test, I'd much rather take the sub than the job.



OK, now this is more interesting - thanks. I'll keep it in mind in the unlikely case that I ever ask someone out to dinner.

if my friend (male OR female) asked ME to go out for coffee, i would expect THEM to pay. if i asked THEM to go out for coffee, they would expect ME to pay. the asker pays (you can google that exact phrase). this is a way of keeping it fair and evenly balanced. if you ask someone else out on a date and expect them to pay for it, you're not going to make sense to them by any stretch of the imagination. this method can works for dates with people who are feminist or for LGBT couples.

if you want someone else to pay for the date, then you will likely have to wait for them to ask you out.

Its very simple:

The other day a 8/10 woman(according to about 30 male acquaintances we have in common) bought me an overpriced coffee and a muffin.

Why?.
She called me saying that SHE needed my help in an area and I fixed her problem, after that she wanted to make up for it with a friendly talk/food and I had nothing else planned for that morning

I offered to pay for my half several times but she insisted that it was her treat because I had just helped her with her problem.

If the situation had been the other way around and I needed her help Id have tried to pay for whatever she was taking. I say try because apparently theres such a big connotation about the whole buying a whatever most of my female friends dont feel comfortable when I offer to pay for them for some reason.

so if want to hang out with friends i have to buy them s**t? that is BS. everyone should pay for their own stuff. I got lucky with my 3 dates(thts all ive been on lol) first date i showed up late and she bought her drink already lol. second date she only got a 1dollar tea Third date i could tell she wante dto take advantage. She ordered a small dragonfruit tea at starbucs which is not too pricey but halfway through the ate she kept saying man i should have gotten a large i want more and hinting for me o buy her another which i didnt entertain. Good thing as she ignored my requests for a second date. f**k her lol I did make sure i got a kiss on her cheek in and a hug.

I wonder how a kiss or a hug is something you "get" out of someone.

What hyperlexian said is true, only yesterday a woman invited me to a full McDonald's meal, which isn't exactly cheap in these parts. Among friends, buying stuff for each other is a small way to show appreciation, there are no transactions involved.

It feels like a prize to me since i never get them, and i wasnt sure if she wanted a second date so i said to myself im gonna kiss her on the cheek in case i nvvr can again. It's pathetic but hey im not denying it lol.


bill a lot of people may be making fun of you in this thread for doing it ''wrong'' but you have balls man which a lot of people myself included,do not. If alot of people in this thread had balls they probably screw up just as badly as you did. It's easy to say ''I would do this or that'' behind a computer but s**t gets real when a girl is staring you face to face and you see all your hopes and dreams in her eyes.

I was at wendys the other day and ordered a triple cheeseburger no lettuce, no tomato, no onion,no pickle, just meat, cheese mayo ketchup. My server was a girl I was attracted to. I made jokes to her about how I only got the unhealthy artery clogging stuff and about how it wasnt such a loss anyway as wendys veggies were prob not the greatest anyway. I was having her cracking up but of course even if I waited to ask her out there was no way lol. Although the most alpha of men would have asked her out anyway :p

if you alternate paying, it works out to the same cost as paying for yourself each time (do the math).