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14 Mar 2013, 8:41 pm

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Because I'm autistic its that simple most women flee at the mention of autism.


This is actualy a growing issue as more and more people are hearing about autism. Most of the aspies I know that actively date are no longer bringing it up as it seems to have become an instant deal breaker.


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14 Mar 2013, 9:14 pm

Well, you could always go for a half-truth and say "None of them have been good enough".

Might work...


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14 Mar 2013, 10:44 pm

If they're being rude in asking, one could retort with, "I'm single because you're too ugly for me to ask out."

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14 Mar 2013, 10:49 pm

Zinnel wrote:
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Because I'm autistic its that simple most women flee at the mention of autism.


This is actualy a growing issue as more and more people are hearing about autism. Most of the aspies I know that actively date are no longer bringing it up as it seems to have become an instant deal breaker.


Doesn't help that the f*****g 24 hour news cycle has made us all into raving psychopaths cause of the Newton Shootings..



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15 Mar 2013, 1:38 am

rabbittss wrote:
Zinnel wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
Because I'm autistic its that simple most women flee at the mention of autism.


This is actualy a growing issue as more and more people are hearing about autism. Most of the aspies I know that actively date are no longer bringing it up as it seems to have become an instant deal breaker.


Doesn't help that the f***ing 24 hour news cycle has made us all into raving psychopaths cause of the Newton Shootings..


No, no it doesn't but this trend was happening before that. In fact I've been noticing a growing number of people listing "sorry but don't want an aspie" like statments on their dating profiles.


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15 Mar 2013, 2:27 am

nessa238 wrote:
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I am single because I am ugly.

I don't know about that, but my observations are:
  • Even girls that would, by the usual standards, qualify as "not so attractive", do often have boyfriends.
  • When guys refer to girls as "ugly", it's usually due to their behavior, sometimes also for their clothing style, but rarely due to their body.



I saw her pic, she is gorgeous.

But your second point isn't very true, guys aren't that ideal, not at all.


ps: and no, don't pm me about her pic. I would ignore you.


I knew she was

Because my theory re attractive people having all the advantages and attractiveness being what everyone wants is invariably disputed mainly by the attractive people as they are the main beneficiaries of it so they're not going to want to trash a system that's suiting them very nicely! They live in a delusional bubble whereby they think others are generally benign and aren't all over them just for how they look (when they are really)

I think they can't accept this because their identity is strongly fused with how they look and it would probably cause some kind of psychological meltdown if they knew the extent to which other peoples' interest in them was all about their looks and little else.

The looks would need to vanish overnight for them to realise it - something which rarely happens so they never get to experience their world becoming very different without the luxury of their looks.


But she made a whole thread saying that guys hardly approach her - so your assumption is unsound. I've made a wrong assumption too in that thread back then.



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15 Mar 2013, 3:38 am

Zinnel wrote:
rabbittss wrote:
Zinnel wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
Because I'm autistic its that simple most women flee at the mention of autism.


This is actualy a growing issue as more and more people are hearing about autism. Most of the aspies I know that actively date are no longer bringing it up as it seems to have become an instant deal breaker.


Doesn't help that the f***ing 24 hour news cycle has made us all into raving psychopaths cause of the Newton Shootings..


No, no it doesn't but this trend was happening before that. In fact I've been noticing a growing number of people listing "sorry but don't want an aspie" like statments on their dating profiles.
*sigh* life sucks that way.


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15 Mar 2013, 3:50 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Vectorspace wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
I am single because I am ugly.

I don't know about that, but my observations are:
  • Even girls that would, by the usual standards, qualify as "not so attractive", do often have boyfriends.
  • When guys refer to girls as "ugly", it's usually due to their behavior, sometimes also for their clothing style, but rarely due to their body.



I saw her pic, she is gorgeous.

But your second point isn't very true, guys aren't that ideal, not at all.


ps: and no, don't pm me about her pic. I would ignore you.


I knew she was

Because my theory re attractive people having all the advantages and attractiveness being what everyone wants is invariably disputed mainly by the attractive people as they are the main beneficiaries of it so they're not going to want to trash a system that's suiting them very nicely! They live in a delusional bubble whereby they think others are generally benign and aren't all over them just for how they look (when they are really)

I think they can't accept this because their identity is strongly fused with how they look and it would probably cause some kind of psychological meltdown if they knew the extent to which other peoples' interest in them was all about their looks and little else.

The looks would need to vanish overnight for them to realise it - something which rarely happens so they never get to experience their world becoming very different without the luxury of their looks.


But she made a whole thread saying that guys hardly approach her - so your assumption is unsound. I've made a wrong assumption too in that thread back then.


Yes but that's another common phenomenon of attractive people - men don't want to get the knock-back that they think is inevitable and some men develop a real dislike of attractive women as they feel not good enough and that they are always being rejected by attractive women. This can breed hatred.

I resent attractive people myself and I'm female and less aggressive than the average man so take my annoyance with them and quadruple it. So that if I were very attractive I'd be feeling a bit nervous as they will be a target for disaffected males far more than the likes of me.

I get low-level derision which doesn't threaten my life. Good lookers get a knife in the guts as 'If I can't have her no one can'

It's another downside of good looks - more attention yes but often of the worst kind ie the 'I'm going to kill you' attention!

So she's probably safest being single :)

Also, I bet some men approach but they're not up to her 'standard' so she rejects them



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15 Mar 2013, 4:06 am

one time some woman that hardly knew me (but had been taking care of a sick relative of mine) asked me "Why aren't you married yet?" just out of the blue.

My reply: "Who would I marry?"

I was in my mid 20s at the time.



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15 Mar 2013, 11:29 am

Probably because I'm not even trying at all and lack the motivation to build up confidenc------------

Because i keep making up excuses.


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15 Mar 2013, 11:46 am

nessa238 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Vectorspace wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
I am single because I am ugly.

I don't know about that, but my observations are:
  • Even girls that would, by the usual standards, qualify as "not so attractive", do often have boyfriends.
  • When guys refer to girls as "ugly", it's usually due to their behavior, sometimes also for their clothing style, but rarely due to their body.



I saw her pic, she is gorgeous.

But your second point isn't very true, guys aren't that ideal, not at all.


ps: and no, don't pm me about her pic. I would ignore you.


I knew she was

Because my theory re attractive people having all the advantages and attractiveness being what everyone wants is invariably disputed mainly by the attractive people as they are the main beneficiaries of it so they're not going to want to trash a system that's suiting them very nicely! They live in a delusional bubble whereby they think others are generally benign and aren't all over them just for how they look (when they are really)

I think they can't accept this because their identity is strongly fused with how they look and it would probably cause some kind of psychological meltdown if they knew the extent to which other peoples' interest in them was all about their looks and little else.

The looks would need to vanish overnight for them to realise it - something which rarely happens so they never get to experience their world becoming very different without the luxury of their looks.


First of all: I do not think that I am superattractive. and just like anyone else, I get rejected too by guys.
Are you really stupid enough to think that looking good (which is something ANYONE can work on) can save your world? If people percieve you as akward, stupid, unkind, 'weird' or 'vague', wearing nice clothes isn't going to help that, no matter how beautiful you are. AT ALL. Let me tell you; being an attractive woman actually works AGAINST you for example when you apply for a job and the person hiring you is female.
Did you know that 'attractive' girls are less popular in school when they are younger? (doesn't go for boys) I bet you didn't.

And you assuming how I feel or how my identity is, is ludacris. How dare you even judge me like that? You automatically assume that
1) someone that is attractive to many people finds his/herself attractive too
2) 'attractive' people their idenity is fused with their looks. Quel BS. There are many people that I would judge as attractive that are the most non-superficial people you will ever meet.

Your assumptions are just ridiculous.



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15 Mar 2013, 11:51 am

nessa238 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Vectorspace wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
I am single because I am ugly.

I don't know about that, but my observations are:
  • Even girls that would, by the usual standards, qualify as "not so attractive", do often have boyfriends.
  • When guys refer to girls as "ugly", it's usually due to their behavior, sometimes also for their clothing style, but rarely due to their body.



I saw her pic, she is gorgeous.

But your second point isn't very true, guys aren't that ideal, not at all.


ps: and no, don't pm me about her pic. I would ignore you.


I knew she was

Because my theory re attractive people having all the advantages and attractiveness being what everyone wants is invariably disputed mainly by the attractive people as they are the main beneficiaries of it so they're not going to want to trash a system that's suiting them very nicely! They live in a delusional bubble whereby they think others are generally benign and aren't all over them just for how they look (when they are really)

I think they can't accept this because their identity is strongly fused with how they look and it would probably cause some kind of psychological meltdown if they knew the extent to which other peoples' interest in them was all about their looks and little else.

The looks would need to vanish overnight for them to realise it - something which rarely happens so they never get to experience their world becoming very different without the luxury of their looks.


But she made a whole thread saying that guys hardly approach her - so your assumption is unsound. I've made a wrong assumption too in that thread back then.


Yes but that's another common phenomenon of attractive people - men don't want to get the knock-back that they think is inevitable and some men develop a real dislike of attractive women as they feel not good enough and that they are always being rejected by attractive women. This can breed hatred.

I resent attractive people myself and I'm female and less aggressive than the average man so take my annoyance with them and quadruple it. So that if I were very attractive I'd be feeling a bit nervous as they will be a target for disaffected males far more than the likes of me.

I get low-level derision which doesn't threaten my life. Good lookers get a knife in the guts as 'If I can't have her no one can'

It's another downside of good looks - more attention yes but often of the worst kind ie the 'I'm going to kill you' attention!

So she's probably safest being single :)

Also, I bet some men approach but they're not up to her 'standard' so she rejects them


You resent attractive people? :roll: Yeah because if you happen to be born with nice hair, good eyes, full lips, you must be a total b***h, right? Is that your logic?

And doesn't everyone have the right to reject people? I don't find everyone on this planet attractive, may I? Because I bet you don't either.
I've only rejected a boy once in my whole entire life. Simply because he looked like my little brother and I am not attracted to my little brother.



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15 Mar 2013, 12:00 pm

Cafeaulait wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Vectorspace wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
I am single because I am ugly.

I don't know about that, but my observations are:
  • Even girls that would, by the usual standards, qualify as "not so attractive", do often have boyfriends.
  • When guys refer to girls as "ugly", it's usually due to their behavior, sometimes also for their clothing style, but rarely due to their body.



I saw her pic, she is gorgeous.

But your second point isn't very true, guys aren't that ideal, not at all.


ps: and no, don't pm me about her pic. I would ignore you.


I knew she was

Because my theory re attractive people having all the advantages and attractiveness being what everyone wants is invariably disputed mainly by the attractive people as they are the main beneficiaries of it so they're not going to want to trash a system that's suiting them very nicely! They live in a delusional bubble whereby they think others are generally benign and aren't all over them just for how they look (when they are really)

I think they can't accept this because their identity is strongly fused with how they look and it would probably cause some kind of psychological meltdown if they knew the extent to which other peoples' interest in them was all about their looks and little else.

The looks would need to vanish overnight for them to realise it - something which rarely happens so they never get to experience their world becoming very different without the luxury of their looks.


First of all: I do not think that I am superattractive. and just like anyone else, I get rejected too by guys.
Are you really stupid enough to think that looking good (which is something ANYONE can work on) can save your world? If people percieve you as akward, stupid, unkind, 'weird' or 'vague', wearing nice clothes isn't going to help that, no matter how beautiful you are. AT ALL. Let me tell you; being an attractive woman actually works AGAINST you for example when you apply for a job and the person hiring you is female.
Did you know that 'attractive' girls are less popular in school when they are younger? (doesn't go for boys) I bet you didn't.

And you assuming how I feel or how my identity is, is ludacris. How dare you even judge me like that? You automatically assume that
1) someone that is attractive to many people finds his/herself attractive too
2) 'attractive' people their idenity is fused with their looks. Quel BS. There are many people that I would judge as attractive that are the most non-superficial people you will ever meet.

Your assumptions are just ridiculous.


As I said, you are benefiting from a societal bias that's working in your favour so you'll hardly want it to end however unlucky in love you claim to be

You have the typical self-confidence of the attractive person who feels they can put the insignificant person in their place

If you have this attitude generally I can see why you're having problems finding someone



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15 Mar 2013, 12:04 pm

Cafeaulait wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Vectorspace wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
I am single because I am ugly.

I don't know about that, but my observations are:
  • Even girls that would, by the usual standards, qualify as "not so attractive", do often have boyfriends.
  • When guys refer to girls as "ugly", it's usually due to their behavior, sometimes also for their clothing style, but rarely due to their body.



I saw her pic, she is gorgeous.

But your second point isn't very true, guys aren't that ideal, not at all.


ps: and no, don't pm me about her pic. I would ignore you.


I knew she was

Because my theory re attractive people having all the advantages and attractiveness being what everyone wants is invariably disputed mainly by the attractive people as they are the main beneficiaries of it so they're not going to want to trash a system that's suiting them very nicely! They live in a delusional bubble whereby they think others are generally benign and aren't all over them just for how they look (when they are really)

I think they can't accept this because their identity is strongly fused with how they look and it would probably cause some kind of psychological meltdown if they knew the extent to which other peoples' interest in them was all about their looks and little else.

The looks would need to vanish overnight for them to realise it - something which rarely happens so they never get to experience their world becoming very different without the luxury of their looks.


But she made a whole thread saying that guys hardly approach her - so your assumption is unsound. I've made a wrong assumption too in that thread back then.


Yes but that's another common phenomenon of attractive people - men don't want to get the knock-back that they think is inevitable and some men develop a real dislike of attractive women as they feel not good enough and that they are always being rejected by attractive women. This can breed hatred.

I resent attractive people myself and I'm female and less aggressive than the average man so take my annoyance with them and quadruple it. So that if I were very attractive I'd be feeling a bit nervous as they will be a target for disaffected males far more than the likes of me.

I get low-level derision which doesn't threaten my life. Good lookers get a knife in the guts as 'If I can't have her no one can'

It's another downside of good looks - more attention yes but often of the worst kind ie the 'I'm going to kill you' attention!

So she's probably safest being single :)

Also, I bet some men approach but they're not up to her 'standard' so she rejects them


You resent attractive people? :roll: Yeah because if you happen to be born with nice hair, good eyes, full lips, you must be a total b***h, right? Is that your logic?

And doesn't everyone have the right to reject people? I don't find everyone on this planet attractive, may I? Because I bet you don't either.
I've only rejected a boy once in my whole entire life. Simply because he looked like my little brother and I am not attracted to my little brother.


Not always a b***h but often having a sense of entitlement that's glaringly obvious and will tend to be disliked

Attractive people might be more valued generally by society but they have no more inherent value than anyone else

I don't like being around them as all the fawning and sycophancy that occurs whatever stupid things they say or do annoys me greatly

It's like an insult to a person's intelligence



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15 Mar 2013, 12:09 pm

That upsets you?

My parents have had this friend since I was born.

Last time they were over we were having lunch and their female friend asked me if I had a partner. When I replied that I did she went silent and we just waited for someone else to come up with a new topic.

She wasnt expecting a yes reply so I keep wondering why a family friend would do that



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15 Mar 2013, 12:13 pm

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That upsets you?

My parents have had this friend since I was born.

Last time they were over we were having lunch and their female friend asked me if I had a partner. When I replied that I did she went silent and we just waited for someone else to come up with a new topic.

She wasnt expecting a yes reply so I keep wondering why a family friend would do that


Surprise?

Perhaps she had a small-minded view of you as someone who wouldn't be likely to have a girlfriend and asked you to put you on the spot and make you feel uncomfortable so when you said yes it ruined her game?

You should have said back to her 'Do you?'

Just because someone is a 'family friend' does not mean they have your best intentions to heart

People are always looking for ways to undermine others to make themselves feel better and many people pick on the
'easy target' ie people with an ASD are often more vulnerable and sensitive than average and therefore easy targets

I'd love to have seen her crestfallen look! :D