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07 Nov 2013, 7:53 pm

a girl who cooks and cleans for me and helps me pk noobz in Runescape



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07 Nov 2013, 7:55 pm

^ And in return you would eat, make the house dirty, and do what else exactly?



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07 Nov 2013, 11:18 pm

It's all good to be passionate about things every now and then, but please don't turn this thread into a Killjoy..

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08 Nov 2013, 1:21 am

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I am really surprised that you jumped to the interpretation you did; have you that little understanding of what makes relationships REALLY work?
My conclusion was largely reached from my own limited experience, but a lot of people sadly reject any notion of true, selfless commitment these days. Modern culture in America depicts marriage as a prison, and men as either dumb rocks or abusive egotists. When I see those concepts touted as undeniable fact, I rail against it like crazy...and one trait I often hear from such people is an avoidance of the words "husband" or "wife", especially in a positive context. When you said "life partner", it came across as an arbitrary "inclusiveness" term.


I think you are taking some of the jokes WAY too seriously. Here in America, the default position IS to get married. I know a lot of people live together to test things out before they take that step, but marriage is still the goal. And people are happy to be married. Shoot, pretty much my whole social circle is contentedly married couples. Sure we will sometimes make the ball and chain jokes, but there is no edge to them; you can make them because even though you've tied yourself down, you are content with that state. Married life, especially with children, is VERY different from single life; you do give up a lot. But you also GAIN a lot, and there is no part of me that would seriously ever want to go back to being single (although if that were the fate God were to hand me, I think I'd know how to have a happy and full life with it). Anything suggesting otherwise is lighthearted JOKE. And just to prevent any confusion, I'm not living in some unusual traditional community. I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area, about as liberal, about as "anything goes" as it comes. Without a doubt, marriage is still very much respected by nearly everyone I encounter. Why do you think gays have been fighting so hard to share in it? Don't believe everything you hear about the decaying of values, the lack of respect for marriage, or the joking that happens. There is too much doom and gloom scare tactic out there, but it serves an agenda, not reality. People, by and large, are driven to do what best suits survival of the species, we're programmed that way, and marriage will always be a huge part of that. No matter what they say or do in the meantime.


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08 Nov 2013, 1:50 am

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Part of me thinks its sweet and all in fun, coming up with lists - I remember doing it. But part of me knows that it can lock some people in and interfere with finding the right person.

What I wish I knew in the days I made lists like that? That it is an exercise in futility to think about "ideal," and to have a list of any sort. I sort of knew, and yet I didn't, if that makes any sense. I was more locked off to life and its possibilities than I look back and feel I should have been.

Doing it for fun is doing it for fun, and fine, but what happens when it takes over as a goal?

I married my soul mate but I can't say that he looks a whole lot like I ever expected him to. Life long love has to address what you need more than what you want and, for those who are Christian, God seems to know that better than we do. Keeping an open mind is imminently helpful. That said, there can and should be deal breakers when it comes to knowing what you can and can't live with. Which is a little different, because it is circling about to what you need, and not just what you want.

And for marriage, those talking about being on the same page about kids - that is a MUST. I've known too many divorces over the issue. Blows my mind that someone could get married and not be on the same page about such an essential life decision. You can never expect someone to change their mind or just assume on this issue. Of course, you can't exactly bring it up in the early months of a relationship, either, but it does need to get addressed if things get serious.

Anyway, just my older married lady perspective on the list game. Carry on.


I couldn't agree more.

When you're at the stage when you're ready for a life partner, you won't need lists or be inclined to write them. By that point you know they are unnecessary and sometimes limiting or futile, you know yourself well enough that lists aren't necessary.

The only type of list I have found useful is to list your previous parents and their traits. See if you find any patterns there and what they have in common there. Often who we accept tells us a lot more about who we are and how much work we have to go - it's a chance for reflection and growth. It shows you which areas if yourself you need to work on. Much more beneficial than ideal lists.


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08 Nov 2013, 2:29 am

DW_a_mom wrote:
I think you are taking some of the jokes WAY too seriously.
Well, in my defense, humor rarely translates well via text, so I don't always pick up on it.

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Without a doubt, marriage is still very much respected by nearly everyone I encounter. Why do you think gays have been fighting so hard to share in it?
I can;t speak for all of them, but I strongly believe many - especially the public activists - want promotion of homosexuality over traditional values, not permission. As a Christian, I recognize that marriage was originally created by God, and He set the rules. Like with everything else, we suffer when we rebel against His authority. People can try to hide perpetual sins behind legal jargon and such, but it won't work. The sexes are different in so many ways; two men or women will never be able to replicate the selfless love of a God-honoring husband and wife. The reason most conservatives fight against it is because they don't want their children indoctrinated with "pro-gay" ideas, and they don't want the federal government channeling their hard-earned money into causes they personally despise.


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08 Nov 2013, 4:28 am

http://www.aflphotos.com.au/galleries/r ... el+patfull

-Appreciates when people do stuff for him
-Hard working and dedicated
-Courageous (won the Clubs Most Courageous award two years running hee hee)
-A bit shy

But that first one is the biggie. HE ACTUALLY SHOWS APPRECIATION FOR THOSE WHO SUPPORT HIM!! !! !! Coming from a relationship where most of my hard work was ignored being appreciated is a really big thing for me.


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08 Nov 2013, 5:06 pm

Moviefan2k4 wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
I think you are taking some of the jokes WAY too seriously.
Well, in my defense, humor rarely translates well via text, so I don't always pick up on it.

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Without a doubt, marriage is still very much respected by nearly everyone I encounter. Why do you think gays have been fighting so hard to share in it?
I can;t speak for all of them, but I strongly believe many - especially the public activists - want promotion of homosexuality over traditional values, not permission. As a Christian, I recognize that marriage was originally created by God, and He set the rules. Like with everything else, we suffer when we rebel against His authority. People can try to hide perpetual sins behind legal jargon and such, but it won't work. The sexes are different in so many ways; two men or women will never be able to replicate the selfless love of a God-honoring husband and wife. The reason most conservatives fight against it is because they don't want their children indoctrinated with "pro-gay" ideas, and they don't want the federal government channeling their hard-earned money into causes they personally despise.


Sorry for the tangent, I'm bordering on acting like this is PPR, but ...

Oh, geez, you don't know anyone who is gay, do you? While there are exceptions, they don't want to promote their lifestyle to anyone, they usually even hope their own children are not gay, but they DO want to be able to visit their life long partner when in the hospital, and enjoy tax benefits when one partner is fully supporting the other. And, well, to have people recognize that the person they are spending their life with is the person they are spending their life with, and has rights and responsibilities that are shared with them. They just want to be seen as having the legal right to be who they are.

Marriage is, first and foremost, a legal and social institution that basically decides rights and burdens for inheritance, childcare, sickness, support, and so on. Sure, for us Christians it is also sacred, but since marriage exists even in countries that are completely pagan, it is hardly limited to its sacred purposes.

Under our constitution, it isn't for you or I to tell someone else what to believe, and under the Bible it is not for you or I to decide how God will judge them. That is between them and God.

My point was that marriage is far from dead, and people still want it. We could not have had such an emotional fight over it unless that was true. To think otherwise is simply false.


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08 Nov 2013, 5:13 pm

DW: turning this thread into a debate about gay marriage is indeed something that belongs in PPR. If you examine what happened, all Moviefan2k4 did was innocently interpret a rhetorical question as though it were a literal one (something I identify with, being literal myself) and answered the rhetorical question to explain his views. You took exception to his answer, and started jumping on him. Time to back off and leave him alone.

Back on topic, people. Back on topic. What would your dream guy/woman be like? :)



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08 Nov 2013, 5:21 pm

derailing the thread for the purpose of educating the ignorant is never a bad thing. Jesus would approve. :lol:



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08 Nov 2013, 5:22 pm

I only say it because the mods take a dim view of PPR topics being discussed outside of PPR. As somebody said earlier, the thread might get locked.



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08 Nov 2013, 8:59 pm

I was good! I posted on topic! :lol:


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09 Nov 2013, 12:31 am

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Oh, geez, you don't know anyone who is gay, do you?
I used to, many years ago. Their attitudes only served to convince me more that sexual behavior of any kind is always a choice. We may not always consciously decide what kinds of emotions go through us, but we do choose how to respond. I don't hate homosexuals, but I will not condone the way they live their lives in this aspect.

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They just want to be seen as having the legal right to be who they are.
That's where I disagree with so many on this issue, because I believe we're not defined by our feelings or choices. Our identity and rights are ultimately sourced from being made in God's image, but our selfishness corrupts that design.

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Marriage is, first and foremost, a legal and social institution that basically decides rights and burdens for inheritance, childcare, sickness, support, and so on. Sure, for us Christians it is also sacred, but since marriage exists even in countries that are completely pagan, it is hardly limited to its sacred purposes.
Marriage was around long before modern law; God Himself was the first minister, binding Adam to Eve as husband and wife.

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Under our constitution, it isn't for you or I to tell someone else what to believe, and under the Bible it is not for you or I to decide how God will judge them. That is between them and God.
Agreed, but both sources do set limits on how we should live.


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09 Nov 2013, 2:26 am

I think musician Thomas Dybdahl has set a good example of a great boyfriend:

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For example once while being interviewed about tough times in the relationship between him and his wife, he replied:

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And we are going to experience troubling times again. However, that does not decrease our love for one another. Having a hard time is just as much a part of the "being in a relationship" with someone. Sometimes being there is just a choice. I haven't always possessed that notion of thought, that the purpose of my life is to stay with "that one person", but rather that I WANT TO stay, more than anything else.


So sweet :)


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09 Nov 2013, 4:49 am

Breathing.


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09 Nov 2013, 6:18 am

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Breathing.


Lol, well obviously :lol:


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