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Alvorek
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03 Feb 2014, 8:45 pm

well as a fellow short man, I can tell you most women are taller than I am. I won't list my exact height but lets just say i'm pretty short.


If a woman preferences are big, tall and masculine men, she might as well spit on me.



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03 Feb 2014, 9:37 pm

Alvorek wrote:
If a woman preferences are big, tall and masculine men, she might as well spit on me.


Or well, she might not just like shorter men.

You know, there's nothing wrong with preference, and there's nothing wrong with wanting that.

I like massive boobies, but I have no negative reaction to smaller chested women; it's nothing personal.



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03 Feb 2014, 9:54 pm

Dillogic wrote:
Alvorek wrote:
If a woman preferences are big, tall and masculine men, she might as well spit on me.


Or well, she might not just like shorter men.

You know, there's nothing wrong with preference, and there's nothing wrong with wanting that.

I like massive boobies, but I have no negative reaction to smaller chested women; it's nothing personal.


I'm the same though I despise fake breasts one of the reasons one of many in fact I can't watch modern porn.


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04 Feb 2014, 10:05 pm

On the subject of humans (male and female) being shallow, I suspect this is something else that counts against me (and others). Being a ginger: http://theweek.com/article/index/255821 ... -prejudice

FWIW - I think redheads are often hot but, again, it's a long way from a dealbreaker if she isn't: I'd rather date a genuine brunette than a bottle redhead.



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16 Feb 2014, 8:57 pm

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I'm a little taller than that (okay, almost half a foot), but I like 'em tall on occasion (not always.) It allows me to make awful jokes about scaling them and planting a flag on their heads.

And, you know, there are some things which are fun to do in bed and require the guy to be bigger/stronger than you....



I think it depends on the guy in that case. I think we can safely assume on average the bigger the guy, the more likely he is to be stronger, but bigger doesn't automatically mean stronger.
There are plenty of short guys who are stronger than their taller friends.

I do know what you guys speak of in terms of the sexual antics in the bedroom. I did enjoy being with the 4'10 in that regard, but everything else she was just too small for me. I could do all the same things I did with her with a woman who had 5 inches on her... Hell I could probably do the same things to a woman of any height.. Her weight would be more of the deciding factor.

I only mention the bigger/stronger part because as a junior/senior in High school I was 5'5 and a half, weighed about 135-140 and could lift 365 pounds (deadlift weight), 6'0+ friends could not lift this weight. Now of course with rigorous training they eventually could, no doubt, I'm sure lift that amount.

I guess my reason for bringing it up was it depends on the individual guy. So you say that you don't want a shorter guy because of the sexual component.. Well that is negated by being with a short strong guy. Now if the sexual component requires him to be larger in size (lol, strictly speaking the body other than that one part), then I can see how that would be a thing.


Same height as you, pretty much nailed what I was going to say. My older bro is really strong, 5'8 and I've seen him take down his strong 6 foot friends. The only person who he couldn't take down was his 5'4 friend who worked out regularly, they were about equal when it came to muscle mass and strength. Taller males may have their size as an advantage, but their sense of gravity is alot higher than a shorter male, meaning if you knock the dude to the ground, chances are he isn't getting back up.


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17 Feb 2014, 12:01 am

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I despise fake breasts... .


I hear you brother.

I hate the modern trend of superficial augmentation.

I'm going bald, but I'd kill myself before I got that "fixed".



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17 Feb 2014, 4:22 am

Dillogic wrote:
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I despise fake breasts... .


I hear you brother.

I hate the modern trend of superficial augmentation.

I'm going bald, but I'd kill myself before I got that "fixed".


well I'm over modern day porn it's getting out of hand

I should stick to plumper porn , wobble wobble :wink:


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17 Feb 2014, 5:21 am

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Men who are overly self-conscious about their height is somewhat comparable to women being overly self-conscious about their breast size. Perhaps a lot or even most women prefer a man taller than herself, even quite tall, and a lot or even most men prefer their mate to have average or above average breast size. Also, that being said, some women could care less about height, and some actually prefer shorter men, just as some men could care less about breast size, and some actually prefer smaller breasts. There are enough of the stereotypical views out there though to make women and men routinely insecure about this. It's kindof the luck of the draw, and you can't really (naturally) change either, unless you gain weight as a woman, but then there's other problems...

I tend to be more attracted to very tall men. My ex-husband, however, was 5'6" and his height rarely bothered me. It did bother me, though, that he seemed to have a "Napoleon Complex." Even the way he carried himself was like with his back out and chin way up as though to appear taller. It was almost comical to me. I'm sorry if this makes me sound like a jerk. My current bf is between 6'6" and 6'7" and I love his height. He's 14 inches taller than me. This makes some things difficult but not impossible.

Also, to note, some men who are really, really short have other extremely desirable qualities that make their height a total non-issue. It's not pure confidence (that could be seen as cockiness) but just nonchalance about it I guess?

The attraction to taller and/ or bigger men is probably evolutionary wiring, but it certainly isn't a deal-breaker for everyone. If I fell in love with a short man, I wouldn't not go for it because of his height (obviously, as my ex was particularly short).



Shortness in men is not only viewed as unattractive but also despised, I recall an university election candidate was being insulted for his height by both female and male supporters of his rivals (short animal), he short height was too mentioned to belittle and invalid him, and those were college students - elites in term of education - this all reflects the discrimination against short people, short men in particular.

I strongly disagree with you that it's mainly about self-consciousness; the latter is a consequence of how people of the other sex view them. When short men see women all the time talking favorably about tallness - no wonder they would develop self-consciousness and complexities about it, same for women with flat boobs, but it was never the initial issue.

People in general discriminate against short people, consciously and subconsciously. Short men are often associated with negative traits especially by women:
a bossy or angry tall man is viewed as angry and bossy man while an angry and bossy short man is viewed as Napoleon case.

An example of subconscious discrimination is probably *you*, despite you married a short man before I think you have it against his height, you assume that his chin up and posture is due to "Napoleon complex", did he ever tell you he does that to appear taller? (I highly doubt that) Or you just assumed and associated this behavior to height complexity? (because you have a deep disliking against shortness and hence you are more likely to put short men in negative light).

I know plenty of tall men who chin up and flex their postures yet I am sure that you would never associate them with any height complex because they are tall.

Really, it's like assuming a white man is less likely to be a criminal than a black man.

In all forms of discrimination, from racism to sexism, were often falsely justified by "the problem is in you" or "it's all in your head" explanations/theories - those who are discriminating rarely admit that the problem is in them in the society's attitudes toward the discriminated group.



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17 Feb 2014, 7:36 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

Shortness in men is not only viewed as unattractive but also despised,

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In all forms of discrimination, from racism to sexism, were often falsely justified by "the problem is in you" or "it's all in your head" explanations/theories - those who are discriminating rarely admit that the problem is in them in the society's attitudes toward the discriminated group.


I agree entirely, apart from your use of the past tense. Some years ago I became aware that some of the humans were describing me as "the red runt".

Of course, my misanthropy is misplaced, apparently.

In my experience, they will find any excuse they can to marginalise and discriminate on the way to the top of their hierarchies. Getting to the top always means kicking someone else to the bottom, and the more vulnerable they are, the easier they are to kick.

This is what intersectionality theory is all about. Feminists decry how they are treated by most men, and those criticisms are fair, but it's only recently that even a few of them have become aware of how many women participate in similar behaviour towards other groups.