[Males only please] Would you marry a feminist?

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[Males only please] Would you marry a feminist?
Poll ended at 14 May 2014, 10:52 pm
Yes 57%  57%  [ 25 ]
No 43%  43%  [ 19 ]
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13 May 2014, 5:48 pm

You know how, come the revolution, those who have opined on the value of hard work will be made to do all the hard work?

So anyone who has used the term 'feminazi' unironically will have all their feminazi nightmares come true, just for them.

Also, anyone who has similarly said 'reverse racism' will find themselves assigned a new ethnic group that is to be treated quite despicably.


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13 May 2014, 7:20 pm

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I was wondering if male WP users find feminists attractive or not, or whether it is a total deal breaker.


Feminism is an umbrella term. Wanting women and men to have equal rights is no dealbreaker to me. Blaming men for your shortcomings, or running around topless, acting as if other women are helpless victims that need your saving, are dealbreakers.


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13 May 2014, 9:45 pm

Kurgan wrote:
ripped wrote:
I was wondering if male WP users find feminists attractive or not, or whether it is a total deal breaker.


Feminism is an umbrella term. Wanting women and men to have equal rights is no dealbreaker to me. Blaming men for your shortcomings, or running around topless, acting as if other women are helpless victims that need your saving, are dealbreakers.


1. What the hell is wrong with running around topless, unless it's cold outside? You just said you're for equal rights; well, men run around topless. If you don't like it and can't grow up, go back into your house, and stop staring at the lady sunbathing in her own yard next door.

2. Other women often are helpless victims. That's why domestic violence shelters exist and why there are lawyers who specialize in Title IX, harassment, sexual discrimination, and rape/DV cases. To name a few areas in which many women do need protection.



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13 May 2014, 10:26 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHAEeRbnpe0[/youtube]Must be a feminist endorsed ad for sure.


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13 May 2014, 10:32 pm

I suggest we not get baited into a flame fest, so the moderators don't get baited into locking the thread and halting the poll.

Remember, the poll is in the context of someone a particular man would consider for marriage. So, positions can and should have much more latitude than many other situations. Let's face it, many women, if not most, use such things as a man's hair as an absolute deciding factor. I shave my head, so for many women, that would be enough to dismiss me outright. Some might call a woman who did that shallow, but she would not be branded as an abuser. And, there are women who would definitely go on at least one date with me because I have a Harley Davidson motorcycle. Romance, dating, and marriage are a special zone where personal preferences should have the greatest latitude and tolerance for how someone makes their choice. I doubt there are many women who would want to have their dating choices managed like a corporate hiring process or have their personal preferences scanned for political correctness.



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13 May 2014, 11:31 pm

For those who can't see the results, the gap is closing. As the Earth turns and daylight moves east, the Asia/Pacific regions may push it either way. We will see...

Yes 54% [ 19 ]
No 45% [ 16 ]
Total Votes : 35

Call your friends and get out the vote!



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14 May 2014, 12:42 am

I did marry a feminist. It didn't work out, but not because of the feminism.


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14 May 2014, 12:53 am

Btw, surely I wouldn't want a double standard feminist,non true egalitarian, like her being against FGM(and anyone should) while she's not against MGM just because the latter had been socially standarized, both are mutilations, and both have profound effects and aren't really medically necessary. Period. It's like a man being feminist yet totally against women toplessness on the beach (men shouldn't run around topless in the streets as well).



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14 May 2014, 12:59 am

I don't see why you wouldn't marry a feminist if you love her. Is it for religious reasons?


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14 May 2014, 1:07 am

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Feminists are a branch of egalitarianism, the same way that cancer research has branches dedicated to fighting specific cancers. No one moans at the skin cancer researchers because they are focusing on one type of cancer and not all cancers.


Exactly!! All the other groups (gays, disabled people, minority, etc.) have their own activists to keep protecting/frighting for their rights.

Btw I can't see the results because being a woman I'm not allowed to vote. Discrimination!


Researchers do gender or age specific surveys, for reseach purposes.

Wouldn't you be interested to know the % of male feminists?



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14 May 2014, 1:16 am

I don't really understand the problem with 'other groups'. I mean, it's not like we accuse gay rights advocates for only caring about gay people? And afaik feminists care about many other groups, too.

What makes it difficult for me to call myself a feminist is all the associations. That I wish harm upon men, or don't see them as sensible and worthy people, or that I'd never want to make him a cup of coffee. (actually, that was what really harmed my view of feminism as a teenager. In the paper was an interview with a women who wouldn't want to make her man coffee on a Sunday morning.... I mean: wtf????)

The fat lesbian stereotype doesn't really harm me as anyone who knows me IRL can tell :wink: (I'm not fat or lesbian) But I still feel hesitant to call myself feminist because of all the nasty things that are associated with it.


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14 May 2014, 2:13 am

I live in a very liberal area so if I were to meet my future wife here, then it would be very likely. I think it is a lot better this way. If it is between an intelligent and well-spoken woman who is opinionated, versus some stupid immature girl from some suburb who can't recognize the evils of the conformity she was raised in, I would much prefer the intelligent woman. Because she would be someone who feels the life society expects from her is unjustified, when based on an inborn quality. That right there shows a similarity to me.

Also, I can't say this for sure, but if feminist women have a dislike of guys who display their masculinity so outwardly, then she might find me a nice change from that. I'm not so desperate to prove a fact as obvious as my gender :lol:

But I have a strong dislike for sexual and racial politics. I'm a communist and environmentalist and nothing less. I care about the gap between the rich and the poor and the upcoming deluge, not minor details of that. Which, if those minor details are what you focus on, and you don't see them as examples of an all-inclusive and uniting bigger picture, you're stuck at a major obstacle. Of course, if she was a communist too, she would know this, and know what to care about. If not, she would have to hear me out, I would tell her how I know full well how women are at a disadvantage in our society, but since society is ruled by money/capital/economy, that she needs to realize that these "gender issues" both start and end with our capitalist economic system. She would have to recognize this, and then upgrade from divisive feminist to all-inclusive communist.


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14 May 2014, 2:35 am

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I don't really understand the problem with 'other groups'. I mean, it's not like we accuse gay rights advocates for only caring about gay people? And afaik feminists care about many other groups, too.

What makes it difficult for me to call myself a feminist is all the associations. That I wish harm upon men, or don't see them as sensible and worthy people, or that I'd never want to make him a cup of coffee. (actually, that was what really harmed my view of feminism as a teenager. In the paper was an interview with a women who wouldn't want to make her man coffee on a Sunday morning.... I mean: wtf????)

The fat lesbian stereotype doesn't really harm me as anyone who knows me IRL can tell :wink: (I'm not fat or lesbian)


I didn't know there's a "fat lesbian" stereotype for feminism, why is that? It sounds stupid.

And I love to make my own coffee, thank you very much :lol:, but I would like to tell us more about this interview story, you were asked that question and got rejected for it? What was the job? In a Feminist NGO?



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14 May 2014, 3:02 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
YourMajesty wrote:
I don't really understand the problem with 'other groups'. I mean, it's not like we accuse gay rights advocates for only caring about gay people? And afaik feminists care about many other groups, too.

What makes it difficult for me to call myself a feminist is all the associations. That I wish harm upon men, or don't see them as sensible and worthy people, or that I'd never want to make him a cup of coffee. (actually, that was what really harmed my view of feminism as a teenager. In the paper was an interview with a women who wouldn't want to make her man coffee on a Sunday morning.... I mean: wtf????)

The fat lesbian stereotype doesn't really harm me as anyone who knows me IRL can tell :wink: (I'm not fat or lesbian)


I didn't know there's a "fat lesbian" stereotype for feminism, why is that? It sounds stupid.

And I love to make my own coffee, thank you very much :lol:, but I would like to tell us more about this interview story, you were asked that question and got rejected for it? What was the job? In a Feminist NGO?

I don't really know it either. It probably stems from the notion that feminists are man-haters. Apparently they promoted lesbianism at SOME point because they thought sex with a man was inherently of abusive nature because of the supposed power differences. They gave it a strong political dimension. I doubt that many know that, but lesbianism fits the idea of total rejection and disgust of men, which comes from the anti-men stereotype.

The fat thing is afaik related to body acceptance and the concept of the feminist as an ugly woman who doesn't shave for ideological reasons. Feminists usually promote body acceptance and positivity. It might also be related to the stereotype that feminists prefer to be unattrative/undesirable to men. These stereotypes are related to several things.

The woman who didn't want to make coffee was in an article in he paper. she gave an interview there as a feminist and I think such reasoning is totally bonkers. Apparently it's upholding patriarchy or something to make her SO some coffee. You seem like her ideal partner, then :D


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14 May 2014, 3:02 am

XJ220RACER wrote:
I live in a very liberal area so if I were to meet my future wife here, then it would be very likely. I think it is a lot better this way. If it is between an intelligent and well-spoken woman who is opinionated, versus some stupid immature girl from some suburb who can't recognize the evils of the conformity she was raised in, I would much prefer the intelligent woman. Because she would be someone who feels the life society expects from her is unjustified, when based on an inborn quality. That right there shows a similarity to me.

Also, I can't say this for sure, but if feminist women have a dislike of guys who display their masculinity so outwardly, then she might find me a nice change from that. I'm not so desperate to prove a fact as obvious as my gender :lol:

But I have a strong dislike for sexual and racial politics. I'm a communist and environmentalist and nothing less. I care about the gap between the rich and the poor and the upcoming deluge, not minor details of that. Which, if those minor details are what you focus on, and you don't see them as examples of an all-inclusive and uniting bigger picture, you're stuck at a major obstacle. Of course, if she was a communist too, she would know this, and know what to care about. If not, she would have to hear me out, I would tell her how I know full well how women are at a disadvantage in our society, but since society is ruled by money/capital/economy, that she needs to realize that these "gender issues" both start and end with our capitalist economic system. She would have to recognize this, and then upgrade from divisive feminist to all-inclusive communist.


There are still gender gaps in North Korea and it's still a patriarchal country, only women relatives to male leaders get high positions), and USSR wasn't that egalitarian as was used to claim in their propagandas. It is not about communism or capitalism.



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14 May 2014, 3:10 am

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There's sexism in North Korea and it's still a patriarchal country, only women relatives to male leaders get high positions), and USSR wasn't that egalitarian as was used to claim in their propagandas. It is not about communism or capitalism.


North Korea has always been an uber-nationalist military dictatorship, not a true communist society. They officially stopped referring to socialism or communism about a decade ago and yes, they were funded by USSR and China for a while, but their way of doing things comes from imperial Japan.

USSR, especially before the 1970's, put women in important and heroic roles like the world hadn't seen in thousands of years. Maoist China also did a lot for women.

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