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30 May 2014, 3:20 pm

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I think what Cafeaulait said was mean as well. "Even though he's overweight" implies that being overweight is a fault. If a man had said that, it wouldn't be given so much leeway (although unfortunately on this forum it tends to).


In the eyes of many it IS a flaw. Most women prefer their men NOT to be overweight. I also prefer my man not to be overweight, but I could still love an overweight man, in fact so much that it becomes a minor detail to me. I wouldn't take back any word I said and don't think their is anything mean about it.



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30 May 2014, 3:24 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
smudge wrote:
I think what Cafeaulait said was mean as well. "Even though he's overweight" implies that being overweight is a fault. If a man had said that, it wouldn't be given so much leeway (although unfortunately on this forum it tends to).


Yes, it was but mean, and yes I believe if a man said that women here would jump his down his throat and tell him how shallow and mean he is...etc. :lol:

But to be fair, Cafeaulait is still new in the relationship department, she has struggled a long time to have a bf, so it's probably inexperience and naivety regarding relationships.


Pathetic. First of all you don't know much about my experience with relationships or my presumed "naivity". Second, I don't know what this has to do with me saying that I love my boyfriend even though he is not perfect.



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30 May 2014, 3:34 pm

It just came across weird,suppose I said "I love my boyfriend even though he's crippled,or black."See what I mean.I don't think you meant it to come across that way.All of us here have trouble expressing ourselves at times.I know I have put mt foot in my mouth before.


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30 May 2014, 3:34 pm

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smudge wrote:
I think what Cafeaulait said was mean as well. "Even though he's overweight" implies that being overweight is a fault. If a man had said that, it wouldn't be given so much leeway (although unfortunately on this forum it tends to).
in her defense though I dont think she was intending to be mean when she said that the message I got was she loves him even if he might be slightly over weight and thus debunking that women don't date men overweight or any other flaws she has a much deeper connection to him.


Exactly.
I prefer dark haired men.
I prefer tall guys.
I don't particularly like chesthair.
I very much prefer slimmer, or even a bit skinny guys.

Guess what? My boyfriend is blonde, 5'10, has lots of chesthair and is slightly overweight. And I still love him and I want to be with him all the time and I think he is one of the most attractive people I know :heart: There seems to be this idea that all women ONLY date the superficial spitting image of perfection that they have in their minds. Plus he needs to have a lot of money. Plus he needs to have a big car. Maar als puntje bij paaltje komt, women long for a mental connection with a man (and yes off course there needs to be at least some physical attraction).



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30 May 2014, 4:28 pm

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There seems to be this idea that all women ONLY date the superficial spitting image of perfection that they have in their minds. Plus he needs to have a lot of money. Plus he needs to have a big car. Maar als puntje bij paaltje komt, women long for a mental connection with a man (and yes off course there needs to be at least some physical attraction).


This is all well and good, and everyone is entitled to their opinion on what they find attractive, even voice that opinion, and they are absolutely more than welcome to date someone who falls outside of their own personal ideal... really what are the chances of finding that 100% perfect out of the box person who likely does exist but the world is a big place.

I just find it paradoxical that someone who posts in threads about men attacking women based on superficial qualities (or other misconstrued ideas) and how terrible it is (it really is), on this site specifically, turns around and makes remarks against men (or a man) and sees no problem with it. Additionally to turn it around and apply sweeping generalizations on what men think a woman thinks as if it is somehow indeed the mans fault all along is really hilarious.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. :roll:

That's all for me. I am sorry for partially derailing the thread but I sometimes see things that I need to point out regardless of the circumstances. (I am also more than open to be corrected for misconstruing your entire point in the first place but now I am sure that I didn't.)



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30 May 2014, 4:32 pm

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There seems to be this idea that all women ONLY date the superficial spitting image of perfection that they have in their minds. Plus he needs to have a lot of money. Plus he needs to have a big car. Maar als puntje bij paaltje komt, women long for a mental connection with a man (and yes off course there needs to be at least some physical attraction).


This is all well and good, and everyone is entitled to their opinion on what they find attractive, even voice that opinion, and they are absolutely more than welcome to date someone who falls outside of their own personal ideal... really what are the chances of finding that 100% perfect out of the box person who likely does exist but the world is a big place.

I just find it paradoxical that someone who posts in threads about men attacking women based on superficial qualities (or other misconstrued ideas) and how terrible it is (it really is), on this site specifically, turns around and makes remarks against men (or a man) and sees no problem with it. Additionally to turn it around and apply sweeping generalizations on what men think a woman thinks as if it is somehow indeed the mans fault all along is really hilarious.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. :roll:

That's all for me. I am sorry for partially derailing the thread but I sometimes see things that I need to point out regardless of the circumstances. (I am also more than open to be corrected for misconstruing your entire point in the first place but now I am sure that I didn't.)


First: Why is it relevant that this person is a man? The fact that you see this as 'against men' and as 'blaming' I think also says quite a lot about you and how you interpret things.



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30 May 2014, 4:44 pm

Let's get back to the point - you're not making it look good for women on this thread by saying stuff like that, and you are trying to distract from the fact that you put your boyfriend down for being overweight.


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30 May 2014, 5:05 pm

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Let's get back to the point - you're not making it look good for women on this thread by saying stuff like that, and you are trying to distract from the fact that you put your boyfriend down for being overweight.



I find that a load of crap. Especially the: "you're not making it look good for women on this thread". Uhm, what?
If what I said is your subjective idea of putting my boyfriend down, then I find there is nothing wrong with putting my boyfriend down. I am also not going to argue with you on that so called 'point' since I will not be able to change your opnion and you will not be able to change mine. Off to my bed now in the sweet Amsterdam.



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30 May 2014, 5:19 pm

Amsterdam has nice Trams.

I like the Surinaams-Indonesian places there.

Lots of Venice-type canals, too.

I was there about ten years ago. I stayed just to the north. I took Tram 16 up to the sports hotel where I was staying.

I am of Dutch descent. The first part of my last name means "short" LOL



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30 May 2014, 5:52 pm

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Off to my bed now in the sweet Amsterdam.


This explains the situation. Her boyfriend just needs to kick the marijuana habit, then he will stop eating so much. :wink:



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30 May 2014, 6:06 pm

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Cafeaulait wrote:
Off to my bed now in the sweet Amsterdam.


This explains the situation. Her boyfriend just needs to kick the marijuana habit, then he will stop eating so much. :wink:


I know you intended that as a joke, but I still want to mention a very recent study from CA that reveals that pot smokers have less body fat and better blood sugar balance than non-smokers. Time for that idea to fade into obscurity, despite its comedic potential.



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30 May 2014, 6:30 pm

Well, there you have it. Anyone reading this who wants to lose weight, feel free to light one up.

Personally, I'm content with being alcohol and smoke-free along with a regular regimen of biking and running.



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30 May 2014, 6:36 pm

Why is everyone ganging up on Cafeaulait? I don't see anything wrong with what she said. If she had said "I love my bf even though he's blonde", would that make her a terrible person too? I personally think that the acknowledgement and acceptance of your partner's flaws, as well as your own, is an important step towards a lasting relationship.



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30 May 2014, 6:41 pm

mezzanotte wrote:
Well, there you have it. Anyone reading this who wants to lose weight, feel free to light one up.

Personally, I'm content with being alcohol and smoke-free along with a regular regimen of biking and running.


i bike, dance, do weights/floor exercises, and yoga, on pretty much a daily basis. i also vaporise marijuana on a daily basis. it doesn't have a sedentary effect on everyone who uses it--and if you're concerned about smoking, there are other ways to ingest it, like vaping or eating it.



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30 May 2014, 6:41 pm

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Why is everyone ganging up on Cafeaulait? I don't see anything wrong with what she said. If she had said "I love my bf even though he's blonde", would that make her a terrible person too? I personally think that the acknowledgement and acceptance of your partner's flaws, as well as your own, is an important step towards a lasting relationship.


I have no idea. Aside from the occasional playful comment, I don't have much interest in this thread. It's gone way off topic.



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30 May 2014, 6:43 pm

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i bike, dance, do weights/floor exercises, and yoga, on pretty much a daily basis. i also vaporise marijuana on a daily basis. it doesn't have a sedentary effect on everyone who uses it--and if you're concerned about smoking, there are other ways to ingest it, like vaping or eating it.


I know all about vaporizers. I was into marijuana from age 18-22. The previous poster used the term "smokers," so I was talking about smokers.