What are your thoughts on gay marriage?

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Homosexuality DOES exist in nature. Many other animals in nature do have a percentage homosexuality. It exists in a large percent of birds for example.

-Scott

CHIRP!



Actually, we (accidentally) had a pair of male canaries. But until one of them started singing, the other thought it was female. I'm never quite sure how they manage sex though - it looks impossible when they do.

Most current hypothesi on homosexuality propose the idea it's a defense mechanism to make sure population doesn't breed to the point of overpopulation.

Gay marriage has my full support. I won't let bible-bashers tell anyone how to live.

Last edited by Flagg on 19 Mar 2007, 2:15 am, edited 1 time in total.

even though the thought of myself or any guy on another guy grosses me out, that appearently isnt true for some. i like to reserve the right not to engage in homosexual activities, and similarly, i grant anyone else the right to take the same liberty either way. i dont see why i would care, and whats even more, i dont see why it matters what i think at all, even if i think its wrong or sick or whatever, what does someones decision or freedom to choose to have to do with what i think about it?

and since marriage has whank to do with christianity and everything with an official bonding between two people, i think its rediculous to reserve that prerogatively for straights, thats very discriminative

Last edited by hypermind on 19 Mar 2007, 12:59 am, edited 1 time in total.

I think it's a great idea^.^

How does the act of fornication compare with act of gay sex considering that BOTH are prohibited by the lard.

I guess since hetrosexual NT rule, they play gay sex being something much worse then fornication.

I IT STINKS I TELL YOU.

But don't you know, the ONLY purpose of sex is reproduction! Just like the only purpose of eating is so you can poop!

The "one man and one woman" thing wasn't accepted in the Old Testament, and has never been enforced by any major religion except for mainstream Christianity. It wasn't adopted by Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Africans, Native Americans, Polynesians, or much anyone else. If we're going to take a lesson from human history, how about the lesson that mixing religion and politics is a really BAD idea?

this is why, if you're male and have several older brothers... you have a high likelyhood of being gay. there are studies that show the percentage chance of being gay increases with every male born (from the same uterus)

Does the same apply to girls?

I think that gay people should be allowed to marry. I wouldn't want to pressure religious clergy into doing something they don't believe in though. Like if a couple of gays want to go down to the courthouse to marry, good for them. But it shouldn't be "expected" that a precher will marry you just because the law says it's OK. I actually belonged to one religious group where the issue of a "commitment ceremony" got so heated that it broke the congregation apart. I don't want that to happen to other congregations. Now that I've gone back to Catholicism, though, it's not really an issue.

Also, I want to point out that the gays that are complaning about inheritance rights, medical power of attorney, etc. should not be rewarded by society for lack of planning. If you're in a gay relationship, you should know that the law is not going to take your partner's side on these things in the event of a family dispute unless you give your partner power of attorney. I honestly don't see the big deal about paying a lawyer a couple of hundred bucks to make sure your affairs are in order if there is a history of family disagreement over your gay relationship. Sheesh!

I'm gay. I think that makes it obvious what my stance is.

Religion has no place in legislation.

Gay marriage is something that needs to exist.

While the power of attorney issue is a relatively minor expense + PITA, a lot of other things are not so petty. For example, my wife is 20 years younger than I am. I've had a long and reasonably well-paid career, and when I die she will be in line for my Social Security payments. Depending on how long each of us live, that might well be hundreds of thousands of dollars.

If we were a gay couple, she'd just be out of luck, and there wouldn't be a damned thing either one of us could do to change that.

Good point about the Social Security - that's one I hadn't thought of.

I have worked for companies in the past that have domestic partner insurance benefits (meaning that gays can benefit). I know that's not the case for everyone, though.

Course, that may just be because the whole concept of social security is such a screwed up mess.

Actually, it's not so cut and dried. Let's take gay out of it and just talk straight and unmarried. Let's say that you are estranged from your family and you appoint a friend as your medical designate to speak for you. Now let's say you are on life support. Anyone in your family can take that person to court for say over your medical care and it will be heard. In the meantime, if that happens, the hospital will defer to the family (seen it happen often so don't doubt it) or wait for the outcome of the court battle. These can drag on for years.

In the case of retirements and social security, many retirements won't let you leave it to who you want (unless they are actually a spouse) and social security would kick in for a spouse but not anyone else. These are also inequities for all single people who basically work just as hard for that money but pretty much might as well drive over a bridge and toss that money in the water for all the good it will do their beneficiaries. In other words, in that respect, they worked for nothing because they do not have the same benefits as married people despite contributing the same amount.

As for everything else in wills and such, the family can fight it and the person will have to pay to fight back. Depending on the family, this can end up eating up a significant portion of the inheritance.

The safest is a trust, but even this won't cover things they can't legally leave to who they want. Trusts also cost thousands to set up, not hundreds, espcecially if you want a trust that will stand up if its questioned.

As I said, those are actually inequities for any single person, regardless of why they are single.