Is the world too "cruel" a place to raise children?

Page 5 of 6 [ 85 posts ] Go to page Previous 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 Next

Previous topic | Next topic

androbot01
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 17 Sep 2014
Age: 54
Gender: Female
Posts: 6,746
Location: Kingston, Ontario, Canada

06 Mar 2015, 5:18 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:

That might sound like a nice idea at first but it could lead to conflicts of interest, like people getting educated only because they want the parenting license, not because they want the education itself, then someone else who really wanted to learn misses out on a university spot, then the universities require unnecessary humanities electives when you're trying to get an engineering degree because they're trying to get more money (I hate it when universities do that) and then parents are trying to raise their child with a hundred thousand dollar debt.
....

If education was made available at the expense of the state (which is the case in some countries now,) then access to it would not be determined by wealth.

They made us humanities majors take a science too. Lol. Astronomy for me. I barely passed. Thank goodness for multiple choice exams.

kraftiekortie
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 4 Feb 2014
Gender: Male
Posts: 87,510
Location: Queens, NYC

06 Mar 2015, 5:19 pm

I FIRMLY believe in a well-rounded education.

androbot01
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 17 Sep 2014
Age: 54
Gender: Female
Posts: 6,746
Location: Kingston, Ontario, Canada

06 Mar 2015, 5:20 pm

Renaissance man. :wink:

kraftiekortie
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 4 Feb 2014
Gender: Male
Posts: 87,510
Location: Queens, NYC

06 Mar 2015, 5:22 pm

LOL...I wish! :wink:

RetroGamer87
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 30 Jul 2013
Age: 37
Gender: Male
Posts: 11,103
Location: Adelaide, Australia

06 Mar 2015, 5:24 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:

They made us humanities majors take a science too. Lol. Astronomy for me. I barely passed. Thank goodness for multiple choice exams.

I just get annoyed when they do that. It seems unfair to have to do extra work and study something outside your interest. If I was studying astronomy I'd hate it if I had to take art or something.

Also it seems unfair that you could have failed your humanities degree due to a lack of knowledge about science, when you might otherwise have been a fully qualified humanitarian (or artist, philosopher, whatever you were studying). It just seems to go against a proper sense of freedom to make people study things they don't want to or need for their chosen careers.

_________________
The days are long, but the years are short

androbot01
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 17 Sep 2014
Age: 54
Gender: Female
Posts: 6,746
Location: Kingston, Ontario, Canada

06 Mar 2015, 5:33 pm

I had to take a language too. Spanish. I was hopeless. The only thing I remember is cerveza. Lol

kraftiekortie
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 4 Feb 2014
Gender: Male
Posts: 87,510
Location: Queens, NYC

06 Mar 2015, 5:40 pm

Now we know WHY you're in the shape you're in! :wink:

androbot01
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 17 Sep 2014
Age: 54
Gender: Female
Posts: 6,746
Location: Kingston, Ontario, Canada

06 Mar 2015, 5:45 pm

kraftiekortie
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 4 Feb 2014
Gender: Male
Posts: 87,510
Location: Queens, NYC

06 Mar 2015, 6:03 pm

One time, I was in a booth selling Corona beer at the Labor Day West Indian Parade.

Have you been to Caribana in Toronto?

androbot01
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 17 Sep 2014
Age: 54
Gender: Female
Posts: 6,746
Location: Kingston, Ontario, Canada

06 Mar 2015, 6:07 pm

Oh God no ... way too much sensory stimulation. Just Toronto alone, never mind Caribana. Lol

RetroGamer87
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 30 Jul 2013
Age: 37
Gender: Male
Posts: 11,103
Location: Adelaide, Australia

07 Mar 2015, 12:23 am

androbot01 wrote:

I had to take a language too. Spanish. I was hopeless. The only thing I remember is cerveza. Lol

Well, you make it sound like you don't mind too much. OK then. I believe in the value of hard work but only when then work has value.

_________________
The days are long, but the years are short

trollcatman
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 21 Dec 2012
Age: 43
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,919

07 Mar 2015, 7:04 am

androbot01 wrote:

I had to take a language too. Spanish. I was hopeless. The only thing I remember is cerveza. Lol

Save space in your brain, only learn the important words.

I had to take four foreign languages in highschool, it came easy to me but I knew some people who were much smarter than me but just had no talent for languages, and they had to waste an enormous amount of time to learn a language they ended up not having any proficiency in at all. No proficiency = waste of time. Better that these people spent that time on some subject they are actually good at, and are going to use later in their lives.
Btw, I think just about every person in the world who sells beer knows the word "beer".

RetroGamer87
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 30 Jul 2013
Age: 37
Gender: Male
Posts: 11,103
Location: Adelaide, Australia

07 Mar 2015, 7:25 am

Is it possible that someone with a talent for their chosen field, would be unable to gain the needed qualification to enter a career due to ineptness at foreign languages?

_________________
The days are long, but the years are short

trollcatman
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 21 Dec 2012
Age: 43
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,919

07 Mar 2015, 7:56 am

RetroGamer87 wrote:

Is it possible that someone with a talent for their chosen field, would be unable to gain the needed qualification to enter a career due to ineptness at foreign languages?

This is certainly the case in the Netherlands. You need VWO/gymnasium to enter college/university. English is always mandatory as a foreign language, since you really need that one at university since they don't translate science books and papers to Dutch. VWO/gymnasium usually also has French and German, and then either Latin, Greek or Spanish. I had to do four foreign languages for years even though I opted out ASAP since I felt it was useless. I had 6 years of French and I still don't really speak it. I've forgotten most of it since then, because I have never used the language.
I know several people who really struggled with these languages, they had talents in other areas, but they still had to pass these language courses for years. No doubt some people could not attend university because they failed their language courses earlier.

0_equals_true
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 5 Apr 2007
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Posts: 11,038
Location: London

07 Mar 2015, 8:15 am

sly279 wrote:

i read a lot of stuff that showed that muslims will become the majority of the world. they are producing at a high rate, while natives of europe and us are producing at a rate that won't sustain the population. some nations have already reached a point of no return. white people all over the world just aren't making enough babies. while muslims tend to have 3+ kids.

but hey I won't be around to live in said Muslim planet. so meh. besides i don't fall for that all Muslims are bad logic. though it can be scary when they don't join the nation, but instead keep themselves separated and keep their old customs.

i mean if i went to live in Germany I would try to adopt to their customs not make them adopt to mine. or why would i leave the us. I don't get people who move to a new state or nation, and expect them to change for them. either stay where you were or learn to adapt.

Muslims make up 23% of the world, but Muslim is not a race. In fact Arabs an Levantines are predominantly caucasian. Even the darkest Indians have caucasian in them. The figure of Muslims is influence a lot by official figures of Islamic nations, so that can skew the results.

The birth rate in the developing world hasn't changed a great deal, childhood mortality has decreased. If anything developing countries are having less child, but the same or higher are surviving.

I think a substantial population of religious people will gradually become less religious, and religion will become more personal/individual.

If you look at you own figure the idea of black making up the highest live birth is actually false, the highest is actuall white then, Hispanic, a large part Caucasian. Religion does play a part in that.

Last edited by 0_equals_true on 07 Mar 2015, 8:18 am, edited 1 time in total.

0_equals_true
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 5 Apr 2007
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Posts: 11,038
Location: London

07 Mar 2015, 8:18 am

darkphantomx1 wrote:

Well the more educated are having children at later ages and having fewer children and many of them choose not to have children at all compared to their less educated counterparts who tend to have more kids and at earlier ages.

Also I think black people are having more children too. I think in the US, the amount of black babies being born is now more than white babies being born. And I also heard that by the time i'm an old man, whites will no longer make up the majority in the USA.

check your facts

http://kff.org/other/state-indicator/bi ... ethnicity/

Page 5 of 6 [ 85 posts ] Go to page Previous 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 Next

Jump to:

Is the world too "cruel" a place to raise children? Post Reply New Topic

Is the world too "cruel" a place to raise children?