Beta males - why do woman dislike them?

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17 Aug 2015, 5:52 am

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Im lucky as I kinda relate at her level....I still see the world through the eyes of a kid...Im a dad when it matters but also can reach out to that playful side in her. Its way better than any romantic relationship...very genuine as it reaches the real person in me. Yeah, Im lucky. :)

I have the same problems relating to kids as I do adults but for different reasons. in the next lifetime I am fairly confident I will get a better break. then I can be a real human. :alien:


You are a real human mate...probably a lot more closer to what evolution contemplates than you realise. This planet is not an easy place for us at the moment.

thank you mon frère :) mebbe I was born at the wrong time, either too soon or too late. :shrug: but mebbe if I did manage to rate a real human mate, I would not have been forced to evolve. :idea:



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17 Aug 2015, 6:05 am

auntblabby wrote:
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Im lucky as I kinda relate at her level....I still see the world through the eyes of a kid...Im a dad when it matters but also can reach out to that playful side in her. Its way better than any romantic relationship...very genuine as it reaches the real person in me. Yeah, Im lucky. :)

I have the same problems relating to kids as I do adults but for different reasons. in the next lifetime I am fairly confident I will get a better break. then I can be a real human. :alien:


You are a real human mate...probably a lot more closer to what evolution contemplates than you realise. This planet is not an easy place for us at the moment.

thank you mon frère :) mebbe I was born at the wrong time, either too soon or too late. :shrug: but mebbe if I did manage to rate a real human mate, I would not have been forced to evolve. :idea:


Our human consciousness spectrum probably puts us further along the road but being in a minority makes our experience of life pretty unsatisfactory...I dont think we can get around that...we are wired different to the majority and consequently do not have a culture that is appropriate for our needs. They see us as needing fixing as well which only exacerbates our predicament. In addition we are a lot less touchy feely as we live in our minds so we live in a subjective culture but are more objectively inclined. The culture is telling us we need something our minds dont need. Thats pretty messy stuff. Not much we can do...we were born at the wrong time;



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17 Aug 2015, 6:36 am

and on the wrong planet.



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17 Aug 2015, 6:43 am

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and on the wrong planet.


Theres a high possibility of that. I simply cannot relate to these people no matter how polite I am. I still get on their wrong side. Its an uphill struggle reasoning with them without offending them. Which is why I retreated behind a laptop to earn my living.



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17 Aug 2015, 6:45 am

^^^
you were fortunate to be brainy enough to have that option. I was forced to marinate in the bottle full of scorpions in the uncivil service, for decades. it wrecked my health prematurely.



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17 Aug 2015, 6:54 am

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you were fortunate to be brainy enough to have that option. I was forced to marinate in the bottle full of scorpions in the uncivil service, for decades. it wrecked my health prematurely.


Being wired for another planetary culture is a real challenge but at the end of the day, its a bloody messy situation to be in. Its not as if there are any real options out there. You gotta get to like yourself unless there is someone close by who is on your wavelength.

My little girl will grow up and join the NT world so I enjoy the time with her but know it wont be for long. In the meantime, Im getting to know me as I am going to be the only companion I am likely to have.



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17 Aug 2015, 7:38 am

Just because you're autistic doesn't mean your NT daughter will not worship you as a dad.

All you have to do is be a good dad, and teach her things, and fulfill your dad responsibilities.



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17 Aug 2015, 7:42 am

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Just because you're autistic doesn't mean your NT daughter will not worship you as a dad.

All you have to do is be a good dad, and teach her things, and fulfill your dad responsibilities.


I dont want her to worship me...love me yes...but not make me the centre of her universe. She has a right to live a full life of her own....not be my crutch.



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17 Aug 2015, 9:00 am

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It's important to remember that every female is different. Everyone has their own "type". Yes, there are some women who just want a stinking rich sugar daddy or a wall-to-wall-muscles-washboard-abs hunk but those kinds of women are not good to be in relationships with because they don't love you as a person, they just want you for your "good bits". There are women who do like "beta males", but there's much more to loving someone than that, it's just another stupid "stereotype". No matter what, both people in a relationship should love the other person for who they are. If not, they shouldn't even bother with each other.

Yes, absolutely all men have exactly the same potential to succeed at dating.



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17 Aug 2015, 2:15 pm

Women dislike beta males, because the average woman nowadays lacks empathy and the ability to look at themselves from a purely objective standpoint. Women can mimic empathy, when they deem appropriate, but will not really understand the emotion in and of itself, and be able to produce it naturally. Of course women will deny this, because of their lack of self-understanding.

I don't like chauvanism or misogyny or any of that BS, and I prefer to treat women as equals, because that's how I was raised to treat people. I was brought up with very strong women - my mom, my grandmothers, great grand mother, and my aunts, even female cousins, friends of family - all strong women, who had empathy and had their s**t together. Betaness was not seen as weakness, it's just mutual compliance as opposed to one person dominating another.

Women today are not like that. They prefer to be dominated in all social settings. In subtle ways, I mean, and I don't do good with subtlety. I put it all right on the table. I don't wish to be dominated or dominate others. When women are not being dominated, they will assume the dominant role, and they don't like that. Therefore they will abuse their dominant role. In the same way, a canine becomes anxious if they don't have a strong leader, and in turn they act out. s**t on shoes, rug, pull on the leash, etc. With women, their anxiety is the same, but it comes out in power plays and passive aggressive acts, or little petty arguments.

I don't like these power play dynamics, because they're stressful for me. I'm having a lot of trouble with my girlfriend over these power struggles, and I just check out, because the women in my life are my equals, no one is better or worse than the other.

Same with my male peer groups. We all take turns leading activities, and everyone has their fair share and a say in what we do. Compromises are met directly 50-50 in the middle. Equal.

Most men are beta anyways, and manage to pick up women all the same. There is nothing wrong with being beta, just don't be a doormat and stand your ground.

Women today are raised with a daddy's girl princess complex, because they had a father who would cave to their every demand, and a criticizing, condescending mother to sort of balance that out. What we have is a toxic combo of entitlement caused by the father's lack of backbone (again, women seeing weakness and losing respect), with a low self worth caused by the mother's criticism.

Just avoid women all together if you want any kind of meaningful connection. That special girl is 1 in 150 000, and she's taken.



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17 Aug 2015, 4:34 pm

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Women have been commodities since the dawn of time....prostitution etc. Things are marginally better for them these days as they can work. But society still commodifies them and what we get are a hollow versions of what they can be. If you can find someone who can think outside that box, you are fortunate indeed.



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17 Aug 2015, 5:51 pm

Like others have said, Betas are becoming the new normal and make up the biggest percentage of men. The difference is Betas are the average Joe's that are like sheep who follow orders. The Alphas are the select few with above average traits who usually lead. It's the Omegas now that are seen as the freaks and undesirables by women, not the Betas. Omegas are like Alphas as being a select few but the difference is they are the select few nobody wants and the ones who refuse to conform to normal society. Do a lot of people with Aspergers fit this trait? Probably yes.


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17 Aug 2015, 5:54 pm

I am out of the Greek-letter hierarchy.



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17 Aug 2015, 5:56 pm

I can aspire to be a better omega. :alien:



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17 Aug 2015, 6:06 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I am out of the Greek-letter hierarchy.

Nonsense, the hierarchy always demands you comply.



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17 Aug 2015, 6:12 pm

whats an omega?