For those of you who are virgins

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Amarvilasx
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28 Jan 2016, 6:58 pm

Call your local free clinic and get tested for FREE. Do it again three months later. And again three months after that. Then you'll be statistically certain that you do or don't have HIV/AIDS.

You can stop panicking and get an answer!



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28 Jan 2016, 10:59 pm

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Is there anything, other than the fact that she lied about other things, to indicated she may have been infected? Also, (Someone, correct me if I'm wrong) in the event you used protection then you shouldn't be at risk of having contracted the virus.

Condoms are like seatbelts on cars: they make you feel safe but they aren't a guarantee. Fluids have a funny way of getting everywhere.



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28 Jan 2016, 11:11 pm

Aristophanes wrote:
AuroraBorealisGazer wrote:
Is there anything, other than the fact that she lied about other things, to indicated she may have been infected? Also, (Someone, correct me if I'm wrong) in the event you used protection then you shouldn't be at risk of having contracted the virus.

Condoms are like seatbelts on cars: they make you feel safe but they aren't a guarantee. Fluids have a funny way of getting everywhere.


Yes, I just wasn't sure of the percentage tied to condoms protecting against this particular virus. For instance, I believe they have approximately, a 99% chance of protecting against pregnancy when used correctly.



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28 Jan 2016, 11:18 pm

AuroraBorealisGazer wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
AuroraBorealisGazer wrote:
Is there anything, other than the fact that she lied about other things, to indicated she may have been infected? Also, (Someone, correct me if I'm wrong) in the event you used protection then you shouldn't be at risk of having contracted the virus.

Condoms are like seatbelts on cars: they make you feel safe but they aren't a guarantee. Fluids have a funny way of getting everywhere.


Yes, I just wasn't sure of the percentage tied to condoms protecting against this particular virus. For instance, I believe they have approximately, a 99% chance of protecting against pregnancy when used correctly.

Yeah, they're effective, but most people assjme they're 100% effective and they aren't- only reason I mentioned it.



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29 Jan 2016, 12:34 am

I took a course in microbiology, and we looked at HIV with some detail. The truth is, symptoms from HIV infections usually do come up in the form of being fever or flu like. Swollen lymph nodes do occasionally happen, but they are not so frequent as the former. Almost everyone who recently gets infected with HIV has at least some symptoms that eventually cease when the body makes an immune response. Of course, rarely does that immune response wipe out the virus from the body, and eventually helper T-Cells will dwindle in number over the course of time.


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29 Jan 2016, 12:35 am

99% safe is very unsafe. How long do you take to have sex 100 times when you're in a relationship? Perhaps on the order of a year? Well, that's also on the order of the time it'll take for you to get or cause a pregnancy on average.

These facts make it all the more astounding to me that people can actually have sex lives. Not only do you have to find a willing partner, which is an insurmountable obstacle in its own right for the likes of me, but then you still have to face the intrinsic issues of sex. It seems a superhuman challenge.


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29 Jan 2016, 1:39 am

Aristophanes wrote:
Yeah, they're effective, but most people assjme they're 100% effective and they aren't- only reason I mentioned it.


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29 Jan 2016, 5:35 am

Virgin = traditional intercourse only?

Or, any other sexual contact (oral, manual and whatnot)?

If former, well, I'd have to have a GF for that. Don't really see that happening, as getting to know someone tends to be close to impossible for me--lots of effort needed, and if we aren't really compatible, there's a lot of effort and energy gone that could be spent on other things.

If the latter, then I guess this is moot.

I'm not of the opinion that virgin = loser, though. In fact, people that think that are the losers (which would be my opinion).



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29 Jan 2016, 5:42 am

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I'm not of the opinion that virgin = loser, though. In fact, people that think that are the losers (which would be my opinion).
And my opinion.


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29 Jan 2016, 12:47 pm

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99% safe is very unsafe. How long do you take to have sex 100 times when you're in a relationship? Perhaps on the order of a year? Well, that's also on the order of the time it'll take for you to get or cause a pregnancy on average.

These facts make it all the more astounding to me that people can actually have sex lives. Not only do you have to find a willing partner, which is an insurmountable obstacle in its own right for the likes of me, but then you still have to face the intrinsic issues of sex. It seems a superhuman challenge.


Two methods of bc at all times. Condoms + something else.



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31 Jan 2016, 2:04 am

Hmm as for the original question it probably won't be anytime soon for me.



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05 Feb 2016, 6:31 am

that news report last year about so many guys in Japan that are still virgins, they say that 1 in 4 Japanese men in their 30's are virgins



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05 Feb 2016, 6:58 am

WantToHaveALife wrote:
that news report last year about so many guys in Japan that are still virgins, they say that 1 in 4 Japanese men in their 30's are virgins


I've heard about this major issue in Japan, that the single rate is so high and birth rates so low the country is in something of a crisis.

Statistics say the marriage rate is decreasing and the rate of single people increasing in the U.S.

The discussion of virginity isn't an imaginary one based on lack of evidence - there is actually something of a developing world crisis that single people aren't being paired up as often.

The US and Japan are just the biggest examples. In 2012 in Australia, 1 in 10 people reported living alone, now it's 1 in 4.

This won't affect the world majorly though. It's not like we as a species will go extinct.

Still, it's a little sad getting into relationships is becoming less and less common.

Fact of the matter is though, Japan is already one of the oldest countries in the world (has the most elderly people), and a decrease in marriage and birth rates has been so major the actual economy and government itself has been affected, so much that now healthcare benefits and a variety of other things have been created for people with children just so it encourages people to have kids...It scares me just how much an increasing rate of single people and decreasing birth rate can affect just one country. Just imagine how other countries and, eventually, the world may change because of it.

Sources: http://www.bloomberg.com/.../most-ameri ... s-it-mean- for-the-economy‎
http://www.theguardian.com/world/.../yo ... having-sex
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/.../nearly- ... rested-in- romance-survey/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-15915118
http://www.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/08/19/single.in.america/
http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2015/s4190054.htm
theconversation.com/australian-census-one-in-ten-live-alone-but-that-doesnt- mean-theyre-lonely-7674‎



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05 Feb 2016, 8:31 am

No matter the disadvantages of a lower birth rate, it is a HIGH birth rate which creates considerable problems within what is known as the "third world."



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05 Feb 2016, 7:35 pm

There's a number of factors that go into that low birth rate in Japan thing though. One of the biggest is the rather insane work expectations. Not only do they often work 10+ hours a day, but it's customary to go bar hopping with the fellow employees for 5+ hours leaving very little time for socializing and family. Couple that with the immense pressure to be considered successful and have a steady job in Japan and you have the perfect makings for a massive drop in relationship numbers and that's only scratching the surface.


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23 Mar 2016, 12:08 am

if it wasn't for a totally fluke occurrence of a WPer [long gone] hoping to find a meeting of the minds with me, I would probably still be in possession of my Vcard. the way I figured, I was meant to be a monk in this life.